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- JDM_BLITZ
So now I have unlocked 2 b-spec drivers does that mean I can put them both in the same race to earn me more money, or are they just for switch over in endurance races ?
B-Spec in GT5
- Thread starter cicohipe
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- England
- js427
The latter unfortunately.
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- Massachusetts
- AJ_Foyt_Racing
My B-Spec driver drove a beautiful race on Tsukuba Circuit in the Amateur Series '90 Japanese Challenge in a turbo'd '97 Civic Type R but on Cape Ring he keeps driving into pitrow. He did it twice in the last race. I even slowed him down but he still drove through the pits!
Anyone else noticed that the career-meter goes more fast for some drivers than others?
Here's a pic:
http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/5015/20101203195308.jpg
Check out the difference in career between driver 2 and 3!
Here's a pic:
http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/5015/20101203195308.jpg
Check out the difference in career between driver 2 and 3!
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Anyone had their 1'st place Bob pull into the pit just before crossing the finish line?
We ran a great race in the 2'nd NASCAR event... right up until that dumb move.
The sponsors were not amused and neither was I...
Beware of that driver 'P' and cancel it.
The AI was too stupid to know when to just cross the finish line instead of pitting!
YIKES!
We ran a great race in the 2'nd NASCAR event... right up until that dumb move.
The sponsors were not amused and neither was I...
Beware of that driver 'P' and cancel it.
The AI was too stupid to know when to just cross the finish line instead of pitting!
YIKES!
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- cannedReality
I dont know why every one moans about B-Spec. 4 of my drivers out of my 6 all are level 20 or above, i use b-sec to get to know the track and the opponents. also i have the SE so i have to rank them up. i just leave b-spec on when im going for my tea or during the night on a endurance race.
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- England
- shepzki
Personally, I loathe it. It was ok in GT4 as you didn't have to use it to complete anything, now you do, so completely unnecessary in every possible way and very dull to boot. 👎 I did 2 events and got so bored of watching the AI drive round, I refuse to do anymore of it, %'s be damned.
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- CoolColJ, GTP_CoolColJ
From my last race, with a driver with a blue upward arrow, he seemed to gain more experience. After the race, his arrow stayed the same
While my other driver who had a green arrow, and even didn't race, turned into a brown downward arrow after the very same race....
While my other driver who had a green arrow, and even didn't race, turned into a brown downward arrow after the very same race....
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I don't like b spec. I decided to give it a chance but after my level 4 driver couldn't control a standard yaris, it ruined it for me. I even upgraded suspension and tyres but left power standard and he still left the track at least every other corner. To me it's a waste of time, its no fun and it takes up resources that could be used to include more a spec races
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- alexlmx6 & GTP_AlexL
- alexlmx6
B spec is a weird thing, I decided to try it today since I had nothing better to do, and I thought I would be bored to tears, but somehow I'm not :S
My driver seems pretty good too, I'm letting him use some of my more idiot proof tuned cars and he hasn't crashed once.
My driver seems pretty good too, I'm letting him use some of my more idiot proof tuned cars and he hasn't crashed once.
I have come from being so-so concerning B-spec to really starting to like the concept.
At first I was of the opinion of many here and thought what a lame way to get cars and xp points but as I have getting into it a little deeper and starting to get a handle on the concept I am starting to discover that properly developing the driver "B-spec Bob" based on improving his weak points and exploiting his strong points ends up producing a well rounded driver in any type of car on any type of track.
All the "Bobs" are different and in their early stages they are "rookies" and their driving definately reflects that! Some drivers need to be constantly cooled down while others need a little encouragement to push on the right pedal a little harder.
Some of the things that I have noticed is seat time not only in general and on the different tracks but the types of cars make a difference in Bobs performance. Put Bob "A" in a high horsepower mid engine car for the first time and he stuggles for a while learning to handle it while Bob "B" may have an easier time with the mid engine ride but struggle with the front engine rear wheel drive. As they are learning their driving pace must be kept down to where they can control the car reliably.
To train Bob properly to be a proper front running racer regardless of car or track you not only have to watch his strength and mental state, temperment but how he is actually driving the car on the track. As Bob is learning if he is squalling the tires into and all the way around the corner, running hard way up on the berms, ramming into other cars from behind and not making clean passes then he is at that time overdriving the car at a pace he is not comfortable driving.
It seems to me that if you keep Bob at a reasonable temperment, drive him as hard as you can while just touching the berms in the corners then Bob starts getting comfortable and confident and his lap times come down.
Another thing that I have noticed is that Bob will have his good sections of the track and then he has his parts that he may not be as strong on. I have found that keeping him cool on his tougher sections and using the correct timing when getting to his good section to "pace up" that he will pick off the AI sometimes a couple at a time with good clean passes and his temperment still at a level that he will not make stupid mistakes.
Also I have noticed that even if you get out front that if you want the most progression out of Bob you need to keep working with him on his driving pace. The more you push him to get better the more he learns and the better his lap times and car control at higher paces and he doesn't get excited as easily running hard. Definately is noticible in future races.
Also in some races holding his pace moderate while saving some of his strength for the last couple of laps and then taking the last lap or two as "hot" laps to get the best pace and pulling his strength down to a fairly low level seems to build up his strength as his career progresses.
Bob also seems to learn more running in traffic rather than out front by himself as well.
My take on the blue, green and orange arrow by his helmet seems to be about how rested and ready to race your driver is. When its blue he seems to be on top of his game ready for all comers, green he is good to go and orange he seems to not quite be on his game and makes more small mistakes throughout the race.
So if you really want the most out of B-spec then you have to pay attention and work your drivers to make them all they can be. Getting them out front and neglecting them may win you a car or xp points but they will never get as good or as strong as they could be. Will make a possible difference doing endurance races.
I can see where a lot of thought and work was put into developing this aspect of the game and as I have gotten deeper into it I am enjoying Bob getting me cars and cash!
As a manager of Bob if you do your job, build up his driving skills, learn what pace he can run, where on the track he is strong and issue your commands to lay back or pick up the pace at the right times Bob can be a consitant winner and a clean crafty driver.
In my opinion all these things combined are what make the B-spec experience.
At first I was of the opinion of many here and thought what a lame way to get cars and xp points but as I have getting into it a little deeper and starting to get a handle on the concept I am starting to discover that properly developing the driver "B-spec Bob" based on improving his weak points and exploiting his strong points ends up producing a well rounded driver in any type of car on any type of track.
All the "Bobs" are different and in their early stages they are "rookies" and their driving definately reflects that! Some drivers need to be constantly cooled down while others need a little encouragement to push on the right pedal a little harder.
Some of the things that I have noticed is seat time not only in general and on the different tracks but the types of cars make a difference in Bobs performance. Put Bob "A" in a high horsepower mid engine car for the first time and he stuggles for a while learning to handle it while Bob "B" may have an easier time with the mid engine ride but struggle with the front engine rear wheel drive. As they are learning their driving pace must be kept down to where they can control the car reliably.
To train Bob properly to be a proper front running racer regardless of car or track you not only have to watch his strength and mental state, temperment but how he is actually driving the car on the track. As Bob is learning if he is squalling the tires into and all the way around the corner, running hard way up on the berms, ramming into other cars from behind and not making clean passes then he is at that time overdriving the car at a pace he is not comfortable driving.
It seems to me that if you keep Bob at a reasonable temperment, drive him as hard as you can while just touching the berms in the corners then Bob starts getting comfortable and confident and his lap times come down.
Another thing that I have noticed is that Bob will have his good sections of the track and then he has his parts that he may not be as strong on. I have found that keeping him cool on his tougher sections and using the correct timing when getting to his good section to "pace up" that he will pick off the AI sometimes a couple at a time with good clean passes and his temperment still at a level that he will not make stupid mistakes.
Also I have noticed that even if you get out front that if you want the most progression out of Bob you need to keep working with him on his driving pace. The more you push him to get better the more he learns and the better his lap times and car control at higher paces and he doesn't get excited as easily running hard. Definately is noticible in future races.
Also in some races holding his pace moderate while saving some of his strength for the last couple of laps and then taking the last lap or two as "hot" laps to get the best pace and pulling his strength down to a fairly low level seems to build up his strength as his career progresses.
Bob also seems to learn more running in traffic rather than out front by himself as well.
My take on the blue, green and orange arrow by his helmet seems to be about how rested and ready to race your driver is. When its blue he seems to be on top of his game ready for all comers, green he is good to go and orange he seems to not quite be on his game and makes more small mistakes throughout the race.
So if you really want the most out of B-spec then you have to pay attention and work your drivers to make them all they can be. Getting them out front and neglecting them may win you a car or xp points but they will never get as good or as strong as they could be. Will make a possible difference doing endurance races.
I can see where a lot of thought and work was put into developing this aspect of the game and as I have gotten deeper into it I am enjoying Bob getting me cars and cash!
As a manager of Bob if you do your job, build up his driving skills, learn what pace he can run, where on the track he is strong and issue your commands to lay back or pick up the pace at the right times Bob can be a consitant winner and a clean crafty driver.
In my opinion all these things combined are what make the B-spec experience.
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- TTownEP
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@ vfourmax
Good points.
I've also been getting more and more interested in B-Spec, and playing with the pace as the race goes along definitely makes a difference. I came in here looking for an explanation on the arrow by the helmet, and I like your take on it, I'm going to keep an eye on it to see what happens.
Good points.
I've also been getting more and more interested in B-Spec, and playing with the pace as the race goes along definitely makes a difference. I came in here looking for an explanation on the arrow by the helmet, and I like your take on it, I'm going to keep an eye on it to see what happens.
