B-spec mode

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Jedi2016
He was talking about "TV Mode", I think, not B-Spec. Odd that TV Mode hasn't been mentioned around here yet... hm.
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TV director mode announced at the initial conception of GT4 some 4 years ago, has developed into B-Spec mode to give the user something to do during the racing rather than simply watch 6 AI cars.

They are one in the same.

TV Mode is just a replay. No controls, no screen clutter. According to KY, it was designed for the fans who sometimes "drive a certain car on a certain track, just to watch the replay."
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In your example you wouldnt have driven anything to make it worth watching your replay.

Replay of your driving is replay but maybe Kaz renamed it to TV mode.
 
I'm just reporting what he said in the interview.. it's in the OPM, the same disc with the MGS3 demo. You can watch it and decide what he's talking about. It's not a "major feature", just a gimmick mode in Arcade, no doubt, which is probably why it hasn't been mentioned in the ads and stuff.
 
i Just think that the B-spec mode should not be in the game. the game was to made for people to be able to race not sit there and watch the AI race for them. if any one says they like the idea of b-spec mode for beating the endurance races or the annoying races they don't appreciate that the game is a simulator of real life racing. Yes some races are annoying but use that time during an annoying race to really hone your skills and learn from mistakes.
 
I think B-Spec mode will be great on one track for sure. TEST COURSE. The endurance races on test course were extremly boring and you were way ahead or way behind. I never saw a close endurance race on that course at all. That will probably be one of the only times I would use B-spec mode. 👍
 
Heres what Kaz had to say about B-Spec mode:

I would like to finally to speak you about something of very important for me, and which represents the greatest challenge that we ever met since the development of Gran Turismo, namely the mode B Spec, or Director Mode. After Gran Turismo 3 A-spec, I wanted more than all to carry out B-Spec, but us did not have the possibility of it. For this reason I chose to directly implement it in Gran Turismo 4, in order to be able to carry out this dream which held me with heart. To speak simply, B-Spec is a "play of replay". I had this idea whereas I played Gran Turismo - because I am myself a large fan of the series - and that I realized that days ago when I want more to look at my replays than really to play. Those which like really the cars will certainly include/understand me. At this point in time I started to think of a mode who would really allow to be able to observe a race in his least details, B-Spec. The player chooses cars, their level of control, and launches them on a race of its choice. From there, it can of course observe them various angles of sight, but not only. Thanks to a menu, it will be possible to change into real time the level of the racing drivers, to make them change position, in short to hold the destiny of the race between its hands!
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And heres some less inspiring news about online and release.
I announce it immediately to you, Gran Turismo 4 will not have any function online! I know that many people will be surprised of this advertisement, but we had not really had time to finish something of satisfactory in times, and we thus preferred to give up this option in order to allow a play in stand-alone of better quality. For a play online, it will be necessary to wait the next year, a date on which we will reflect to leave an additional version online or not. I can to finally also say you that the play will leave on next 3 December, that it is in Japan or in Asia, to celebrate the ten years of PlayStation. In Occident, we try to finalize the whole for next 14 December, but nothing is less sure unfortunately."
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I've had at least one close race on the Test Course.. I don't even remember which series it was, but I was driving an F/090S. Which, fast as it is on every other course, doesn't have a very high top-end. The best I could do was hold the draft behind the leader. If I slipped out of his draft, I started to fall back, and would lose the race. In fact, at one point, I fell back so far that I skipped a pit stop just so I could pick him up again when he left the pits. After practicing on several laps throughout the race, I used ye olde draft-slingshot at the very end to take the win. But it was a close one the whole way, rather than the usual leave-'em-a-minute-behind races.

TalGuy.. I agree with you on one point, in that B-Spec could be a way to "cheat" and win difficult races. Depends on how good the AI drives, though.. it's quite possible that the AI driver is a total dumb-ass and will rarely actually win, regardless of how you direct him. I doubt he's capable of winning any race you put him in, though.

However, I disagree about whether B-Spec should be in the game or not. While I won't use it that often in Simulation Mode, unless it's required, I'm sure I'll take it for a few spins in Arcade Mode. And like any other feature of the game, if you don't like it.. don't use it. :) Just because it's there doesn't mean you have to use it (although there are supposedly some Sim races that require it, probably just a single series). Just ignore it.. the regular A-Spec game is still there.
 
I've just thought of something I might try with this B-Spec mode. I'm always trying to beat the competition with the least power possible and a good overall setup of the car in GT3 I used to take out my 400bhp Z06 and have some great battles with the JGTC cars. Now it may be a slight struggle to do this by driving the car yourself but imagine what it's like with a stupid ai driver infront of the wheel, making your car setup even more critical.

If you think about it there have always been ways to cheat in the GT series games, the game is how you make it. So if your not a complete hardcore sim nut you can still enjoy it.
 
Jedi2016 i see your point it doesn't hurt to try something new i just see this b-spec mode as taking the fun out of the game in a way that is the main point i'm trying to express here. I may to take it for a spin in the arcade just to see how it is.
 
phonypoly
It was supposed to be a ....joke!! :rolleyes: (BS=??) :dopey:
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:lol: I knew that man. You didnt have to tell me I just told you to go to google so you can have more information on it so you get to know more things about it. I didnt give you the link thinking you thought it was "BS"
 
TalGuy
i just see this b-spec mode as taking the fun out of the game in a way that is the main point i'm trying to express here.
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i disagree.
i think having b-spec be able to beat races that the non professional racer, such as myself, for you will help us not get discouraged to stop playing because you can't beat a race.

for example, i can't get my super licence in GT3 so i can't participate in some of the races and finish the game. which is why i don't play it as often as i would if i could get that licence.
 
I think a lot of people (myself included) just don't like the idea of B-Spec being used as a "crutch" to get through difficult races. For me, it'll probably be more of a learning tool. If I'm having trouble with a certain race, I'll back out and run a B-Spec race in Arcade Mode, same track, same car (and hopefully the same competition), and figure out the best way to win by trying different strategies and seeing what the computer does. But I probably wouldn't use B-Spec on the actual race itself.

From what KY has said, that's the primary reason B-Spec is there.. not as a "crutch", but as a tool. Don't just run the race in B-Spec.. watch it. Learn from it. Don't use it to win the race, but let it teach you how to win the race.

And for those who say "it'll take the fun out of the game"... well then, don't use it. It's an option, not a requirement.

"Doctor, it hurts when I do this...." "So don't do that."

"I don't want to drive B-Spec...." "So don't drive it."

Same thing.
 
No. We don't know anything about B-Spec than what's been announced. We don't know anything about anything that hasn't been announced. Because it hasn't been announced. Hang out on these boards for more than a couple of days, and you'll know every public scrap of knowledge about GT4. If it ain't here, it ain't available.
 
Jedi2016
I think a lot of people (myself included) just don't like the idea of B-Spec being used as a "crutch" to get through difficult races.
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Why do you care if someone uses it this way? Does it make GT4 less fun for you. I frankley don't care how anyone else races. Unless its my dirty rotten brother slaming me in to a wall in 2 player cause he knows its the only way he can beat me!!
 
Well, what if someone comes out here bragging about how he's beaten x-number of races, or how he has such-and-such a time on such-and-such a track, but that those wins and times aren't actually his? That they were acquired through B-Spec? "Cheapens" the experience, since he did nothing to actually EARN the times.
 
yea Jedi2016 B-spec just going to have people bragging about how easy the game was when they didn't even do an actual racing. This game is not suppose to be easy at all, it was made to be a challange that is why this is the best racing game that has ever been made.
 
I don't think that would be in any way easy in B-Spec mode. Since there will be more element in GT 4 than other in the GT series. I think that this mode is made with a sense that you have a basic knowledge in racing. You just cannot for example to tell it (your vehicle) to overtake everywhere and not conserve fuel and tire. Thus it will increase overall laptime due to increase pit in.
 
I think B-spec SHOULD be part of the 100% completion thing though. Are you that much of a racer that you can even let a 'noob' AI driver win solely by tactics? Completing the thing with B-spec alone is not that probable either because you will be able to change settings. How will you know what effect they have without you racing the car? This should be part of the gameplay no? It think you will be able to finish the game without ever having to use the B-spec though. (Please no entire A- AND B- spec game! :ouch: ). The biggest advantage of B-spec is being able to play it when you are disabled and into motoring. Wether you've got your arm in a cast or are really disabled. I think it was on this forum or in some movie, I read this question: What would be greater than winning a gold medal in the olympics...? A: Having the ability to walk... :) Remember this.
 
Jedi2016
Well, what if someone comes out here bragging about how he's beaten x-number of races, or how he has such-and-such a time on such-and-such a track, but that those wins and times aren't actually his? That they were acquired through B-Spec? "Cheapens" the experience, since he did nothing to actually EARN the times.
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[sarcasm] I guess your right this would ruin the GT4 expirence for me. If some guy lies online about how he got lap times I'll probably trade in the game.[/sarcasm]
 
You read my post? No, no shame on you, shame on us all. I think it's great that my girlfriends disabled little brother is gonna be able to play GT! Slam!!! 👍 👍 👍 :) BIG Thumbs up for Kaz.
 
I agree Falconair. All i'm saying is B-Spec will be a challenge. I'm no racer, just watch a whole lot of racing and lapping on tracks in Canada.
 
Falconair
You read my post? No, no shame on you, shame on us all. I think it's great that my girlfriends disabled little brother is gonna be able to play GT! Slam!!! 👍 👍 👍 :) BIG Thumbs up for Kaz.
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Ok. cause I was confused for a second.
 
I also see the B-spec thing as a kind of promiss for improved AI.
(correct me on the spelling if wrong)
(not trying to confuse you phatfat, :) I don't like people who glorify themselves, they are not thoughtfull of others and have no imagination. A thing we see all too often. People stink. In general.
 

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