B-spec strategy

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Smoothherb
I don´t understand the whole B spec. I thought it was for people like me, that don´t have 24/7 time to spend on this game. Now after a few races in the B spec I recognized, that you have to sit there and give Bob orders and watch him drive, what is very boring. Puls he didn´t manage to win the second SCup race with a full tuned FTO. So for me this mode is useless. BUT I read, that you can only drive the 24 endurance races with 3 other B-spec drivers. I don´t know if this is true but it would be a shame.
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Put him in an fairly overpowered car and you can usually get away with not giving a single command.
The only exception I've noticed is occasionally on some slow tracks with a lot of tight corners (I suddenly noticed one of my guys was near the back of the field at Eiger Nordwand, despite being 150+ hp up on the opponents - there simply wasn't enough room on that track for the car to stretch its legs, and he was constantly stuck in traffic around those hairpin corners. I managed to get him to first on the remaining two laps with some increase pace and overtake commands).
 
Omnis
Well, B-Spec is officially impossible unless you have a car that's miles ahead of the competition. How many of you have managed better than last place in the Vitz cup? Watching my driver, it's pretty funny. He brakes after every apex. No exit speed whatsoever.
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Very true. He can't win the Vitz cup or the FR. They cannot drive a rear wheeled drive car. And I really don't feel like spending a bunch of money to pimp out my Vitz.:dunce: He's at level 8 and still cant control it. And if I give him a less powerful car, he can't keep up.:grumpy:
 
GasolineJunkie
They cannot drive a rear wheeled drive car.
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that is not true as a general statement. My AI driver won many races using a 500+ HP AC Cobra, certainly not the easiest FR car to drive.

i did notice though that on the early AI levels the driver was more prone to mistakes (overdriving the car) when he came into the "red" area of his hot/cold-meter. As he leveled beyond level 10 or so it seems to be less pronounced. meaning he can now drive while being at the far red end of the meter without making as many mistakes as before.

on the lower levels you have to micro manage them more to keep them in the middle of the meter, then they will usually handle the car pretty well.

regards
Max
 
maxdreamland
that is not true as a general statement. My AI driver won many races using a 500+ HP AC Cobra, certainly not the easiest FR car to drive.

regards
Max
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Hey, sorry. I meant my two drivers can't drive them for nothing. They are both still beginners though. One is level 8 and the other is level 5. I never even thought about trying the Cobra if they can't even drive a Supra or a BMW.:scared: MIght give it a whirl though.
 
B Spec idiocy defies belief. On more than one occasion, he fishtailed/spun out the RE Amemiya FD3S on Tsukuba Circuit several times. Probably due to low level experience, but certainly not with one of the game's best handling cars running on its 'home circuit'.
 
Omnis
Well, B-Spec is officially impossible unless you have a car that's miles ahead of the competition. How many of you have managed better than last place in the Vitz cup? Watching my driver, it's pretty funny. He brakes after every apex. No exit speed whatsoever.
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I upgraded my god damn Vitz for like Cr. 150.000 and he barely won..
 
maxdreamland
that is not true as a general statement. My AI driver won many races using a 500+ HP AC Cobra, certainly not the easiest FR car to drive.

i did notice though that on the early AI levels the driver was more prone to mistakes (overdriving the car) when he came into the "red" area of his hot/cold-meter. As he leveled beyond level 10 or so it seems to be less pronounced. meaning he can now drive while being at the far red end of the meter without making as many mistakes as before.

on the lower levels you have to micro manage them more to keep them in the middle of the meter, then they will usually handle the car pretty well.

regards
Max
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Did you win the muscle car race in the professional series? On laguna seca that is.. Im using the cobra aswell, won the 1st race without any difficulties but cant do crap on Laguna Seca with the same car... so annoying.
 
I'm not at my PlayStation right now, but as far as i remember the "professional" series is the third one from the bottom, right? i only raced the bottom two series by now.

I'm anxious to see though if the AI skill on higer levels increases to a point where he will indeed be able to win for example the Vitz race with an unmodified Vitz RS (the fastest variant of the Vitzes)
 
My pick was one driver that got to level 15, then i made the other tree and immeadiately gave em audi r8 to race on schwarzswald.... They win easily and went from lvl 0to4 instantly. Repeat this and they keep levelling. Right now ( think they are lvl8) i can put them nto my unmodified Zonda R and they win even high lvl races, one lvl8 won the allstars race lol

As for the cool and heat bar, it could be that different driver types are faster or slower dependin where they have their strenghts, i got 2 hot and 2 cold and some seem to be faster in the read others in the blie. If u want them to modifiey their stats try beatin ur fastest lap times seems tto work for mine. That means let him fall into nlue(easiliest done with a super overpowered car) he will lead the race easily if car is overpowered enough. Thenstart hittin the increase pace button for a whole round and u beat ur fastest time which rewards u with xl points.
 
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Hmm im playing B spec now as i type with GT2 soundtrack as the BGM(even the world screen BGM from GT2 is playing) ;] , and from experiencing my AI using the 08' FT 86 on the Sunday cup (which my AI won with ease thanks to the FT-86) It seems he learnes less experience when using a overpowered car for a beginners cup.

I am now on the FF cup and am using My Red Si EG and it seems he ranks up quicker because the car isnt over powered it seems.

When using the FT-86 it took the whole Cup to rank up my driver, but with my driver using the Si EG it took him only 2 races to rank up.

Maybe its because the FF cup is harder? IDK but the XP bar from LVL 1 went up like 65-75% after just the first race with the EG. While with the FT 86 winning the first race on the sunday cup, the XP went up like 28-35% from LVL 0 and that was my AI's first race ever.

Shouldnt the XP bar go up slower as u rank up?
 
Berzerker1
Did you win the muscle car race in the professional series? On laguna seca that is.. Im using the cobra aswell, won the 1st race without any difficulties but cant do crap on Laguna Seca with the same car... so annoying.
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I tried it yesterday and it was the same for me. Daytona was easy to win, but Laguna Seca no way. I had to upgrade the Cobra quite a lot before he won it.

Later on i used the same "tricked out" Cobra in the Professional Series GT World Tour and that was the most amazing B-spec race i have seen up until now.

The first race of the championship was 4 laps in Le Mans (La Sarthe) and my closest opponent was a McLaren F1 GTR. The Cobra had the edge on the long straights, better acceleration and slightly higher top speed. But the McLaren was way better on the brakes and in the mid speed corners due to its superiour aerodynamics.

They must have changed first place like a dozen times during those 4 laps. slip streaming and seemingly impossible high speed overtakings. Almost-crashes and breathtakingly skilled recoveries from those almost-crashes. Most of it at speeds exceeding 300 km/h. it was truly an epic battle, and amazing driving skills on both AI cars. Genuinly exciting to watch...way more interesting than most F1 races, anyway :)

In the end the McLaren had the better ending and finished first. He slip streamed past my Cobra at the very end of the last long straightaway - utilizing it's superiour braking - and managed to stay in front till the end.

both physical and mental strength of my driver were completly gone at the end of the race. and i have to admit that was a pretty good representation of my own feelings as well :)

After that experience i'm sold on the B-spec mode. It's a keeper for me!

regards
Max

P.S.: my driver still sucks on courses like Madrid with very long slow corners...you really want to get out there and push him around those corners :)
 
Nocturna1
Maybe its because the FF cup is harder? IDK but the XP bar from LVL 1 went up like 65-75% ...
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you don't have to resort to guessed percentages. after the race in the first dialog that shows you the experience gained it also tells you the exact number of XP points you got and you can also see the number of points you need for the next level.

i'm guessing you just got more points in the FF series because it has a higher level requirement.
 
My B-Spec Bob cannot step up to his name E.Senna (I find F1 names for them). With the Civic Type-R he makes mistakes on almost every corner. If he manages to get up to second he keeps his pace up for a while then on the last lap manages to screw up. He get first on one race though, and seems to be better on fast corners.
 
Any idea what the arrow on the driver screen is for for the drivers? My guess is how their career is doing, I remember reading that drivers get old and past their prime, I believe that is the trend for them... Any input?
 
Somebody in another thread pointed out (no pun intended) that the arrows are explained in the in-game manual. Apparently they indicate the day-to-day "form" or "motivation" of your driver. so if his arrow points down he has apparently a bad day and will underperform.
 
I'm surprised so many people are complaining about their drivers making mistakes.
I just hit level 10 overall on b-spec with three drivers - lvl. 8, 7 and 1 - and the number of times they've done anything worse than briefly losing control around a corner or gently brushing up against a wall, can almost be counted on one hand, combined for all of them.
Actual spins or constantly slamming into things is extremely rare - and I've had them in a fairly wide variety of cars, ranging from low powered rear and front wheel drive cars, over various mid or front engined rear wheel drive GT and supercars, to an 800+ bhp tuned Audi R8 V10.

I should note that in nine out of ten races I've had them in cars that were 100+ bhp above the fastest opponent cars - I don't know if they learn more or less from being in an overpowered car, but considering I'm mostly interested in them for extra income while I'm doing something else, and the fact they they can usually be left to themselves and win races, means that I don't really care.
 
Miths
I'm surprised so many people are complaining about their drivers making mistakes.
I just hit level 10 overall on b-spec with three drivers - lvl. 8, 7 and 1 - and the number of times they've done anything worse than briefly losing control around a corner or gently brushing up against a wall, can almost be counted on one hand, combined for all of them.
Actual spins or constantly slamming into things is extremely rare - and I've had them in a fairly wide variety of cars, ranging from low powered rear and front wheel drive cars, over various mid or front engined rear wheel drive GT and supercars, to an 800+ bhp tuned Audi R8 V10.

I should note that in nine out of ten races I've had them in cars that were 100+ bhp above the fastest opponent cars - I don't know if they learn more or less from being in an overpowered car, but considering I'm mostly interested in them for extra income while I'm doing something else, and the fact they they can usually be left to themselves and win races, means that I don't really care.
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Same here my driver hardly ever makes a mistake and i dont even pay attention to him, i start the race and let him do his thing. That being said it might be because he is driving the SLS Amg Stealth.

I tried him out once on a slower car and i have to say it was stressful, the dam driver didnt know how to pass a car. He'd stay in the same line as the other cars no matter how many times you click PASS.
Luckily tho his record is 39/39.
 
I basically cheat.

Example: 80s Japanese races? G.Pace gets the Toyota 88C-V equipped with street tires -- hey, it fits the criteria. If he's going to do races with double my lap-count in A-Spec, then he's damn well going to do it in half the time in B-Spec. He has it tons easier than I did, I tell you what.

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I'm getting really, REALLY, annoyed with b-spec. My car is like 200hp more than the others and for some reason he slows to a crawl on most of the turns, in which case the other cars will pass him on the inside or the outside. Why does he slow down so much when the other cars don't!?!?! It's nearly impossible to win unless you have a car 1000,000,000x bettere than the ones your racing.

For example, My Buick Special '62 is 573hp racing against cars that are 415hp in the Rome circuit, and he STILL cannot beat 8th place!

B-spec needs to be refined, or there needs to be a way to slap the hell out of b-spec bob for being such a wuss when it comes to taking corners.
 
I just gave my guy the zr1 race modified with a supercharger for the beginners FR race. He's handling it well. By the looks of it so far he may come close to lapping them. Lol. All gold in the beginners except vitz. I didn't finish. He kept missing up. Have to go back to that one.

Any suggestions on the vitz/yaris race?
 
Uscbryan
I just gave my guy the zr1 race modified with a supercharger for the beginners FR race. He's handling it well. By the looks of it so far he may come close to lapping them. Lol. All gold in the beginners except vitz. I didn't finish. He kept missing up. Have to go back to that one.

Any suggestions on the vitz/yaris race?
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I pretty much fully modded a yaris that you can buy from the dealership and he won it........ not easily though. Took him till lap 4 to get in the lead, and he got passed the next lap but eventually got it back to win.

Seems a bit silly when the car I gave him had 100hp more
 
Anyone able to tell me why my 1000+hp Veyron goes slower around turns than cars with a max of 670hp? I can't come first on the Daytona even though I have like 400hp more than the other cars!!! Why is b-spec bob so wussy?
 
Omnis
Well, B-Spec is officially impossible unless you have a car that's miles ahead of the competition. How many of you have managed better than last place in the Vitz cup? Watching my driver, it's pretty funny. He brakes after every apex. No exit speed whatsoever.
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I've just watched an incredibly tense/annoying Vitz Cup race... First time, my driver sucked, he was dropping positions left, right and centre even in the car I won by a mile in. 60,000cr (yeah) in upgrades later and he only won by .666 thanks to every other car driving like they're on fire and my Bob braking inexplicably and allowing other cars to regain their position after the longest and most drawn out overtakes ever. If the straight wasn't there then I would have lost, luckily I managed to out-horsepower the leader between the last turn and the finish line, otherwise that would have been a totally pointless, boring waste of 10 minutes. I wonder how the next one-make race will go...?

I wonder if the current trend of giving Bob far more powerful cars than the rest of the field is what's responsible for him driving like an old woman? As I say this I have a 471bhp Evo IV, tuned to the eyeballs, doing 10 laps of Tsukuba on the Japan 90's Challenge... The 2nd place car is a Mazda Roadster 1.8 RS. Oh well, I suppose this means Bob will have no chance when I get to the top tier of events as there won't be much tuning to be done on those cars.
 
neema_t
I've just watched an incredibly tense/annoying Vitz Cup race... First time, my driver sucked, he was dropping positions left, right and centre even in the car I won by a mile in. 60,000cr (yeah) in upgrades later and he only won by .666 thanks to every other car driving like they're on fire and my Bob braking inexplicably and allowing other cars to regain their position after the longest and most drawn out overtakes ever. If the straight wasn't there then I would have lost, luckily I managed to out-horsepower the leader between the last turn and the finish line, otherwise that would have been a totally pointless, boring waste of 10 minutes. I wonder how the next one-make race will go...?

I wonder if the current trend of giving Bob far more powerful cars than the rest of the field is what's responsible for him driving like an old woman? As I say this I have a 471bhp Evo IV, tuned to the eyeballs, doing 10 laps of Tsukuba on the Japan 90's Challenge... The 2nd place car is a Mazda Roadster 1.8 RS. Oh well, I suppose this means Bob will have no chance when I get to the top tier of events as there won't be much tuning to be done on those cars.
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Yeah, it's ridiculous how b-spec bob lets cars that are 200hp lower than himself pass him on the turns, and even on the straight aways it seems he has a hard time keeping up. Maybe when he is level 40 he will have a chance at level 12 races...I have no idea how he'll win when I am doing level 40 races though...
 
My b spec driver just took 9:50 to go around the nurburgring in a fully modded lupo race car.

I did it that fast in a stock prius.

/sigh
 
I had to laugh at the programmed politness of my B-Spec racer. I was at Tsukuba (my gosh is he slow on that track!) and I finally got him out front and he spun out on the last hairpin turn and parked it there to wait for the ENTIRE field to drive past before he attempted to get back on the track! :lol: at first I was very very :mad: but then I just had to laugh & try again! There was NO way he was going to catch up. I do wish that instead of just adjusting his pace attitude we could also press a button to get him to STEP ON THE FREAKING GAS!!!!! :sly:
 
Any reccommendations for how to go about the Begginer Lightweight K Cup?

I've got a number of eligible cars all around the 60-70BHP mark but of course this wont be anywhere near enough for Bob to win in. Any suggestions before I just go throwing cash at one of my cars?
 
stinger061
Any reccommendations for how to go about the Begginer Lightweight K Cup?

I've got a number of eligible cars all around the 60-70BHP mark but of course this wont be anywhere near enough for Bob to win in. Any suggestions before I just go throwing cash at one of my cars?
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I used a 95 suzuki cappuccino that i tuned to like 100hp. If i remember right he won easily
 
My b-spec strategy has been to give him a middle of the road tuned car (according to the expected cars in the race) and then control bob during the race. Then slowly increase it to the minimum required to win. Works pretty well, bob seems to get more xp points then when I just gave him enough car to win with and walked away. He (well they) are still low level though at 8, 7 and 2. Of course, if you want him to win every race it's not the thing to do.

So far, not bad. He just won Festiva Italia in a 232hp AlphaRomeo 147 against competition that should have been upwards of 260hp+.
 

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