B-spec Tips and Infos

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When you select "overtake" your AI driver drives with a line that takes into account enough space to pass the car ahead of him. If you leave it on, he will never use the best line and always try to overtake. This method is obviously better with an extremely overpowered car. What I usually do is set the bar 1 step higher than what I was before until i'm drafting the guy, then overtake on a straightaway. The AI, right when I hit the button, turns slightly, overtakes him, and flows right in front of the guy that was ahead of me (at this point I still have overtake on, but turning it off does the same thing.)

Hope that's clear.
 
The Locust
When you select "overtake" your AI driver drives with a line that takes into account enough space to pass the car ahead of him. If you leave it on, he will never use the best line and always try to overtake. This method is obviously better with an extremely overpowered car. What I usually do is set the bar 1 step higher than what I was before until i'm drafting the guy, then overtake on a straightaway. The AI, right when I hit the button, turns slightly, overtakes him, and flows right in front of the guy that was ahead of me (at this point I still have overtake on, but turning it off does the same thing.)

Hope that's clear.
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Thanks. I suppose that if you are in a close race, then you need to be watching and making adjustments all the time.
 
Ducati999
Please note: even you can set it fast forward to 3x, but it resets itself everytime when it enters the pit.
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Hang on, does that mean you're safe from the glitch on Levels 1 and 2?
 
someone should sticky this.....
like a "B sped mode help" post.......
and the first poster should get ontop of things and take all the valueable stuff and put it in the first thread......

it'd help a lot of people. for sure.
 
Well, search option just does all that ;). But it would be nice to have all answers in one thread.
 
Yeah, leaving the overtake on all the time is risky. Esp if you're running a 4-5 race pace. The AI is more likely to mess up because of the pace, and more likely to take a non-conventional racing line because of overtake. That compounds and soon you've dropped your rear tires into the grass and are facing the wrong way.

Overtake will usually run a little faster than non-overtake, because he's not worried about maintaining a line and falling in behind whoever he is infront of. It's usually wise to overtake slightly before any braking areas, on any straightaways, and coming out of most corners. Esses and complicated corners will usually result in a missed line and off-track experience for your car if in overtake mode.
 
OK here it is people, so that you all know. This is for the US version though, not sure how the other ones will work, but if you set it on B spec mode, the car will pit for you and change tires, so you don't have to worry about it. If i repeated myself from someone else, I apologize. Also a little bit of info, you can do an endurance race in a third of the time, all you have to do is at the beginning of the race and once you set up the mode and overtake feature, hit the "R1" button and you go to the screen with all the cars and it tells you how far ahead or behind you are, just hit the "L1 button" and the "right button on the analog stick" and it will speed up the race up to 3x. Bottom line is a 5 hour race only takes about an hour and a half.
 
I included this as part of a different thread so sorry for the repeat. Does anyone know what the orangy-yellow thing over the car's profile is in the B-Spec race monitor. It appears sometimes and then it turns off. It's been mentioned that it is showing that the car has gone of the track, but I thought it might be something else. Any answers? Also, how should I interpret the color bars on the lap segments? Red appears to mean fast and blue slow, but in comparison to what, everyone else, a previous lap? It's not very clear.
 
I figured this might be a good place to ask this question, since I searched and couldnt find any info..

What do they A-spec points do and what are they good for?
 
A-Spec points determine how difficult the race will be, considering your car's weight and power against the other cars. The more A-Spec points the race is worth (up to 200), the more difficult the race will be. Driving Missions are worth 250pts, without exception.

Total A-Spec points determine almost nothing except for how difficult you like your races. :)
 
CaptGeography
I included this as part of a different thread so sorry for the repeat. Does anyone know what the orangy-yellow thing over the car's profile is in the B-Spec race monitor. It appears sometimes and then it turns off. It's been mentioned that it is showing that the car has gone of the track, but I thought it might be something else. Any answers? Also, how should I interpret the color bars on the lap segments? Red appears to mean fast and blue slow, but in comparison to what, everyone else, a previous lap? It's not very clear.
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I think it means that the car with the marker above it is in sort of an "attack mode", trying to chase down and overtake the car in front of it.
 
cttchris24
hit the "R1" button and you go to the screen with all the cars and it tells you how far ahead or behind you are, just hit the "L1 button" and the "right button on the analog stick" and it will speed up the race up to 3x. Bottom line is a 5 hour race only takes about an hour and a half.
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If you look in the game manual it says you can speed B-Spec races up to 5x but mine stops at 3x like yours. whats the deal is there something we have to do like get alot of b-spec points or waht im lost :ouch:
 
Is there a way to stop the pit menu from popping up every time the AI goes for a pit stop in B-Spec mode?

For something like a 5 hour endurance race, the only thing stoppin me from takin a nap is the stupid pit menu. Every time the AI automatically goes into the pit the menu appears and the car will just stop in the pit without anything happening until i select "ok".
 
Relik86
I think it means that the car with the marker above it is in sort of an "attack mode", trying to chase down and overtake the car in front of it.
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I don't know, that doesn't sound right to me. Of course I've yet to figure it out myself. I did think it could be that, but that seems to be a dumbass thing to indicate when the distance apart above them pretty much tells you the same thing.

Be nice if this crap was actually documented in the damn manual :sick: 👎
 
So even to do the 24hr ring enduro you have to be there to play with the pit options.. there's no auto for this eigher? What kind of cars do you run into on the ring enduro anyways? JGTC cars?
 
CaptGeography
Does anyone know what the orangy-yellow thing over the car's profile is in the B-Spec race monitor.
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In case anyone cares, I determined that this arrow is placed over a car when the car with the arrow has run the last lap segment in a faster time than the car immediately in front of it. It only lasts as long as the interval continues to decrease. Makes sense now that I think about it.
 
CaptGeography
In case anyone cares, I determined that this arrow is placed over a car when the car with the arrow has run the last lap segment in a faster time than the car immediately in front of it. It only lasts as long as the interval continues to decrease. Makes sense now that I think about it.
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I've tried to figure this out for a month. Thanks.
 
CaptGeography
In case anyone cares, I determined that this arrow is placed over a car when the car with the arrow has run the last lap segment in a faster time than the car immediately in front of it. It only lasts as long as the interval continues to decrease. Makes sense now that I think about it.
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I was trying to figure it out today and thought it might be that. I'm going to choose to believe this until it's proven wrong, which may be never:)
 
An interesting bit about B Spec and learning:

Using '03 BMW M3 with S2 tires, all stock, with a brand new B Spec Driver on Nurburgring: 8:33.xxx

Same car, tires and track, but with my well-trained B Spec driver (7000+ points, overall skill level 86, machine skill 76, battle skill 67): 8:13.5xx

Big difference! I used mode 3 all the time, and I performed the test in arcade mode time trial. The driver ran three consecutive laps each time, and his times were pretty consistent in both cases (within +/- .1 seconds).

I've now made it a goal to see how high I can get my B Spec driver skill, I think in theory the three numbers each go to 100. I ran a few series tonight with somewhat evenly matched cars and got all three numbers up by 4... 👍
 
Ducati999
Here is a tip on winning the endurance races easily:
First get a Toyota Minolta 88C-V race car '89, put a turbo kit on it (so you will end up with 1200+ bhp), then put R3 tires in the front and R1 tires in the Back. Then go into the race in b-spec mode.

Set the pace to "2" and "pass cars", then you can go ahead and go to sleep or whatever you wish to do, come back in the destinated time and you will end up with money and prize.

Here are the times needed for the endurance races:

Fuji 1000km: a little bit over 5 hours
all the other 200 km races only take about 2 hour.

Please note: even you can set it fast forward to 3x, but it resets itself everytime when it enters the pit.
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Is that in ANY race???
 
Having an unskilled driver at B-Spec is very frustrating. I've only got about 1500 points with the skill points at or around 25 for each category. I'm driving the Ginetta '64 in the final leg of the 1000 miles! event (which goes on forever). I built myself a nice 7 mile lead in A-spec mode, then plan to pit and plunk it into B-Spec for the remainder of the race. I had the driver's pace on 1 (Slow Down) and watched as my driver shot off into the sand on every tough corner. It made me wish there was a 0 or even -1 setting.
Also, there was some Fiat with 17hp in the race (why is this car included in the game?) whose top speed was 65mph even on the long straight. With overtake pressed well in advance, my driver going about 135 would plow right into that Fiat two times before finally figuring out that the best way to pass the stupid car was to go around it. I had to watch this process repeat itself 9 times because the Fiat was so slow that it could only complete 26 laps to my 35.

It was frustrating to think that even a low skilled B-Spec driver would be that unskilled as to not even try to avoid a slower car until after they rear-end it several times. I would think an 8 yr old could figure that out. Maybe that's how it works. In GT time, the B-Spec driver has to first age enough to be able to drive properly in order to race smoothly. Having just about completed year 1 in game time, I've got about 9 or 10 more years until I can expect my B-Spec driver to be able to see over the steering wheel.
 
I completed the 1000 miles! race also. In preparing a car for the race, I noticed my car was alway much slower than the rest of the cars. So, being fed up, I entered my Chevy SS 454 Chevelle and was surprised to see after the 7th lap at Nurb that I was in second place. The reason? Red tires. So, I set the AI driver to 3 and 'overtake' so he can pit more oten, which led me to the victory.

I also noticed in other B-Spec races that a much faster car is needed than what the competition is using. It's funny how a stock car in my hands can beat the competition. But, a heavy mod car wont 'cut the mustard.' It also took me a few races to figure out that you need the bloody 'overtake' button on for your AI racer to pass the other AI cars.

Although it has its faults, I can admit that B-Spec is a lot more fun than I imagined.
 
I've always said that B-Spec Mode is for GT gamers who either aren't very good or just want to race without any actual input. You'll want to be very preceise and careful in your racing. Your AI racer is your little glimmer in which you must make it your superstar.

Being a sports fan, I normally see all-access stuff about coaches rooting on their players to do their best. I can recall seeing Pete Caroll coach his USC Trojans to a National Championship in college football. Can recall Coach K instruct his Duke Blue Devils to take down all opposition on the hardwood. And basically, this is all what B-Spec mode is. It's about coaching. I guess a good way to have fun with this mode is to pretend you're the head of your team in a sport of your choice (American football, football, rugby, basketball, baseball, hockey, whatever). And your job is simple- tell your racer how to win the race. Give it the car, the settings, the opposition, and off you go.

Now for my advice on B-Spec. Not to make anyone feel offended, but if you stink in A-Spec, you'll probably be bad in B-Spec as well. It's all about how well you can make something of nothing. Remember to stay focused and optomistic. If you know you're not going to win the race, don't lose your focus. Second place isn't always the first loser. Just remember to win the race rather than dominate. The more you're able to be "silently aggressive" with B-Spec mode, the more you'll win the race at hand. Having said this, this is John M. of Houston, Texas, USA signing off. Good day/night.
 

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