Bahrain race has been cancelled

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I'm starting a fund in hopes of a Chernobyl Grand Prix.:lol:

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Will be tough to reschedule the race currently as obviously it's impossible to predict when the protests will stop.
 
Justin
I'm starting a fund in hopes of a Chernobyl Grand Prix.:lol:

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Will be tough to reschedule the race currently as obviously it's impossible to predict when the protests will stop.
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Providing a suitable date can be found, it can easily be given a provisional entry.

The 2011 Chinese grand prix and Indian grand prix are still only "provisional". The former has changes to make to bring it back up to scratch, the latter still needing a lot of work before it is ready.
 
^ Let's be serious, both of them are going to host a GP this year.

Do there have to be 20 races this season? I mean when the Korean GP was almost missed last year they were going to run one of the remaining GPs twice or go somewhere else for the 19th race. I'm thinking it was because the championship was so close. It does relate though. Last year in Bahrain the teams were expecting 19 races and this year before Bahrain they were expecting 20.
 
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There is no rule where there has to be a certain number of races. The only reason to hold races as a replacement is to make up the lost revenue from the GP that wasn't run. Bernie will try to run Bahrain this season if he can so he can still take their money (and to also try and maintain the Middle Eastern interest in the sport), there is no reason sporting-wise that another race needs to be held.
 
Rossticles
^ Let's be serious, both of them are going to host a GP this year.
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You can never be certain if any race will go as planned. There could be civil unrest in China, or a worker's strike in India. There could be an magnitude 8 earthquake with the epicenter in Monaco harbor mere hours before the race. Nothing is set in stone.
 
When was the last time a Formula 1 race was cancelled for being too dark? If you're referring to the Korean Grand Prix, the drivers completed 55 of the 55 laps. If it had gone any longer, then it would have been stopped due to low light because the podium ceremony was held in the dark (and there was that fantastic shot of Alonso after the race).
 
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When was the last time a Formula 1 race was cancelled for being too dark?
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The 1978 Italian Grand Prix was scaled back from 51 to 40 laps after it was restarted, following the start-line accidents which eventually claimed the life of Ronnie Peterson. During the warm up lap for the re-start, Jody Scheckter spun off and hit the barriers lightly, but the guardrail fell off its post. More time was taken to re-bolster the said barriers at the Lesmos, which pushed the new start-time even further back.

Technically, it was the first race which was called on account of darkness, but race control made the decision just before the final restart.

On the other hand, this is the first time I can think of that a modern Grand Prix had been canceled due to political and civil unrest; in 1985, French-based teams called for a boycott of the South African GP, and only 20 cars started the race. And World War II sort of ended racing for about 5-6 years beginning on September 1, 1939 (except for the one-and-only Yugoslavian Grand Prix, which featured a five car grid just two days later).
 
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...you asked...

Honestly, as much of an F1 racing fan that I am, a nation has to get its civil crap together before hosting Grands Prix.
 
Don't forget that last race at Indy where the tyres couldn't make the bend so only 6 cars ran the race (except for the first lap!)

C.
 
yeti
Don't forget that last race at Indy where the tyres couldn't make the bend so only 6 cars ran the race (except for the first lap!)

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That wasn't the last race at Indy, the grid didn't run for the first lap, they only ran the formation lap and it wasn't a "cancelled" race was it?
 
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When was the last time a Formula 1 race was cancelled for being too dark? If you're referring to the Korean Grand Prix, the drivers completed 55 of the 55 laps. If it had gone any longer, then it would have been stopped due to low light because the podium ceremony was held in the dark (and there was that fantastic shot of Alonso after the race).
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The Malaysian GP in 2009, cancelled after 33 of the 56, was rain, but they could have waited for the rain to pass but couldn't any more as it got dark so had to cancel it, and award half points.
 
Again, not a race cancellation, that was a race stoppage. There have been several red-flagged races in the past, but these are not "cancelled" races, as the races did start even if they did not finish the usual amount of race distance.
You can't really consider it a "cancelled" race if there are winners and classified finishers...

We are just naming bizarre race results here....do people not know the definiton of "Cancel"?
 
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yeti
Don't forget that last race at Indy where the tyres couldn't make the bend so only 6 cars ran the race (except for the first lap!)

C.
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that wasn't the last race at Indy. The race in question was the 2005 US grand prix. The Michelin tyres were breaking up so all the entrants on Michelin tyres withdrew after the parade lap. The race went ahead with 6 cars... Both Ferrari's, Jordan's and Minardi's.

It was particularly a shame as it denied the American's their last chance to hear 20 roaring v10's. Formula one returned in 2006 and 2007.

This should clear things up Blaaah and yeti. Check the list in my link. All of these Grand prix were "red flagged" and cut short/delayed etc. They were not cancelled and were World Championship events. Points were still awarded. Hope this clears things up.
 
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This will be interesting... Korea and now all this :crazy:

Too many eastern races. More Euro races needed. Russia, suisse, Kazakhstan GPs, lol.
 
Rich S
This will be interesting... Korea and now all this :crazy:

Too many eastern races. More Euro races needed. Russia, suisse, Kazakhstan GPs, lol.
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What does that have to do with anything? The inaugural Korean Grand Prix went ahead. It might have been delayed, but it went ahead (although as a Vettel fan, part of me wanted it to be called off).

Formula one will go where the money is. There are a lot of classic circuits around the world that could easily be brought up to scratch... If you were in charge and you have the choice between a great track, but no money or a decent track and £40 million, what would you choose? Bernie didn't get rich by accident.
 
It's something of a myth that the European races are being replaced by Asian ones. Only three long-standing European races - Portugal, Austria and France - have been removed from the calendar. The championship has simply expanded to the point where European races are becoming out-numbered because more races are joining the calendar rather than replacing the existing ones.
 
Yessir.

I hope this isn't a bad omen for Bahrain and Bernie won't think twice about renewing their contract. I really enjoy the newer courses away from Europe. Sepang, Sakhir, Yas Marina, and Yeongam are some awesome courses. Hopefully the Jaypee Group Circuit is just as good. I don't want any hating on the Yas Marina after saying that. There's no need to beat a dead horse.
 
I think you may be the only person to like both Sakhir and Yas Marina. Istanbul and Sepang are easily Tilke's best, while Austin and Sochi both look great, they need to be raced on to see what they're really like. It's difficult to pass judgement on Yeongam, since it's only had one incredibly wet race and I don't know what to think about Jaypee; the layout doesn't really do much for me, but I'd have to see it in action. As for the rest, Sakhir, Shanghai, Marina Bay and Valencia are all flawed circuits, but they do have their good points. They're all products of the immediate environment, and a few tewaks would make some of them - most notably Valencia and Marina Bay - very good. As for Abu Dhabi, it too is a product of its environment, but the phyical constraints of the circuit mean that remedying it is going to be very difficult.
 
Ardius
do people not know the definiton of "Cancel"?
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Read the thread again - I was commenting on Pupiks comments about a scaled back GP - nothing to do with Cancelling?! It was just another comment about an affected GP... I knew full well it wasn't cancelled...

I'll admit that my "last" commetn was erroneous as I assumed (without checking) that after that fiasco they binned off Indy as a circuit...

C.
 
yeti
Read the thread again - I was commenting on Pupiks comments about a scaled back GP - nothing to do with Cancelling?! It was just another comment about an affected GP... I knew full well it wasn't cancelled...

I'll admit that my "last" commetn was erroneous as I assumed (without checking) that after that fiasco they binned off Indy as a circuit...

C.
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Actually Pupik was also technically wrong too as he responded with a race that was stopped, not cancelled.
I don't really see the relevance of talking about red flagged or bizarre races.

But actually your comment did make much sense as Indy 2005 was not red flagged, post-poned or cancelled. It went ahead as normal and completed all laps. Its just most of the competitors didn't take part. What does that have to do with Bahrain being cancelled or races that were stopped due to dangerous conditions? Don't forget Indy? Who forgot it? Its not related at all..
 
I merely mentioned a race that was called on account of darkness, never mentioning anything about cancellation.

It's been a very long time since any F1 race was taken right off the schedule; there were actual plans for a New York Grand Prix back in 1983, but this was probably because Bernie was very excited to have it happen, and have it a slot on the calendar before a real green light was given. Even now the idea seems nuts, from a logistical standpoint and potential transportation nightmare that might have ensued.

So the European Grand Prix took its place; allowing Dr. Jonathan Palmer to show his testing skills in a third Williams entry. It lasted just a few more times, but after that, it seemed to be brought on because there must have been agreements with the track owners, but a deal was in place for the "national" GP already.

It would be nice if Bahrain can get a spot on the schedule again during that long August gap, but there's really enough races already. Time will tell, I suppose...Luxembourg Grand Prix, anyone? Or perhaps you're in the mood for Swiss?
 
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