Best Car Ever Of All Time

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Umm, Ultrabeat did you read any of that when you just simply copied and pasted it :rolleyes: :) ;) . I don't know if you noticed, but at the end was some reasons why it shouldn't be the worlds greatest car ;) . Anyway, I'll put it in.
 
Not like me to put the opposition down, But as the Mustang got older, It got uglier imo.
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Whereas the countach is naturally gorgeous. Think of it as the motoring equivalent of Jordan (The model, not the GTPlanet Jordan(no offence))
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Whoopsadaisy.
 
Hey, back there on page 3...I was referring to the fact that the camaro is now dead, and that the last muscle car standing is the mustang.
 
Yes, but while the Camaro has been floundering, and the Mustang has been evolving, newer rival muscle cars have come along.
The Viper and Corvette for Instance...
 
Well i think it is quite far fetched to put the mustang against the viper and corvette. Thats like putting an accord vs a 5 series or something.But anyway as far as the mustang getting uglier it did but I think for its initial quality and value it should be in there. Plus all the longevity/popularity/etc
 
The accord is actually a very good car. In a recently published copy of Top Gear magazine, all accord models were given 5/5, whilst the best 5-series got 4/5.
Why not make the Accord number one?
 
Simple, theyre not in the same class. The accord is not trying to be a top dollar luxury car with a million little gadgets to comfort you. Theyre not in the same class, therefore, their ratings, when pitted against each other, mean nothing.
 
it's still a very good car though, don't you agree?
It's not a chauvanist as it were...
 
for me...anything from TVR qualifies as one of the greatest cars ever.

For something more reasonable, i'd say any Nissan. I absolutely love their cars for both design & most of them are very capable. Combine that with the Atessa being on the g35 sedans :D - I love that company. It would be cool to see an AWD Sentra with Atessa hitting WRC...but that's just me
 
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I would pay good money to see that :) .
So any cars you particularly want to nominate?
 
Nissan Maxima and TVR's upcoming 400bhp model deserve to be nominated.

I'd say Z but it's being riced too often and i'm sick of rice. Plus I just love the looks of the new maxima
 
Any particular reasons for nominating those cars?
 
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Any particular reasons for nominating those cars?
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Because one is one of the ugliest cars to debut in the last year, and the other is non-existant. :D
 
tvr is the ultimate in british supercars. They're probably the only company that didn't sell out to germany or ford and they're the only ones that go for both very unique design and ultra-high performance. Not to mention, the suckers will probably outperform a ferrari with little problem (enzo not included...maybe the new one will compete, but we'll have to see). Did i mention these things are "affordable" for cars that have this kind of power and handling characteristics? Tell me...have you ever seen a car similar to a TVR? I think not...though some people see a similarity between one or 2 and the viper but they're both completely different vehicles in all aspects.

The maxima is a beautiful car, excellent engine and it's got an amazing interior. Plus, this is probably the one car that summarizes everything great about Nissan in one somewhat moderately priced package. Granted, the thing weighs like a tank, but It still has a big enough engine to provide sufficient kick, very good handling and it takes bits and pieces from the Z for performance/visual upgrades. Not to mention that it looks NOTHING like any sedan out there right now. Nissan is on to something here and hopefully they'll keep it up in all their cars.

That's all i can think of for now...back to studying for me :(
 
Originally posted by ultrabeat
Not like me to put the opposition down, But as the Mustang got older, It got uglier imo.
mustang2.jpg

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mustang-front.jpg

*cough*GRANADA*cough*
Whereas the countach is naturally gorgeous. Think of it as the motoring equivalent of Jordan (The model, not the GTPlanet Jordan(no offence))
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Now, with the exception of Rumple Foreskin, everyone go down to the local Lambo dealer and pick one up for the weekend, For Mustang money.

Now those of you that like me are on a budget go on down to the local Ford Dealer and pick up a 'Stang.

You can't honestly be comparing the Mustang to the Countach.
They are not for the same purpose. They are not intended for the same demographic.
 
there are, for me, three options:
first of all, the model T, because of all the reasons mentioned before, and because it was maybe the first car to be modded for performance by ordinary people.
Second to that one, is the VW beetle, an invincible car, wich sold over 22 million units, a design unchanged until LAST YEAR, when it went out of production here in mexico, after being produced non-stop since 1938. count that. an incredibly versatile car, wich can be obligued to do anything, can be repaired with your toothbrush, and can support the most outlandish mods. think of ANY, ANY ABS0LUTELY ANY modification and someone someplace has done it to the bug. I think it cant be toped. car of the century for me, all the way.

my very own personal choice, from my heart rather than my history classes, is the 32 Ford. being the first car to have a mass-produced V8 in america, the venerable flathead, this car started what today is called hot rodding. (well, it was the model T, but this car really got the ball rolling, with V8 power). the look is AWESOME, and today is the most sought-after body to build a hot rod. produced only that year, it is absolutely unique and started a breed of fords that would make history as icons of hot rodding. after the 32 ford, hopping up a car became almost necesary and plain easy. we can say that this car was the car that started the V8 craze in the united states, and it dominated street racing and many other racing forms absolutely, till chevy got its 265 pushrod engine out. in 1955. that is more than 25 years later. in that time, the flathead V8 was THE engine on the streets, and the 32 ford was THE car to have and to hot rod. the fact that today there are millions more "32s" replicars speaks volumes of the car's nature and popularity. and the demand increases. its simply because this one was the car that started, practicaly, what we now know as hot rodding, and revolutionized looks and performance in those years in EUA.
but that's just me ^^

Cano
 
I nominate the original Audi Quattro.

The reason is that it revolutionised high performance motoring. Previously, everyone thought that 4WD was for tractors and Land Rovers, but Audi developed a simple 50/50 torque split 4WD system with diffs in the centre and at the rear, to allow all four wheels to turn independently.

Installation of a blown version of the 2.2l 5-cylinder engine gave gobs of power, and the whole lot was dumped into a shortened version of the 80 chassis. It was then clad in a coupe body and sold at approximately £20,000, which was comfortably below the price of cars like 911s and 928s, but it offered equivalent performance. To the violent pace it added a modicum of style and luxury.

Then Audi took it rallying and transformed the way that rallying as a sport worked.

The Quattro also created a legacy of high performance 4WD machines built to low budgets, that remains to this day.
 
holy crap...how could I forget the Quattro...I wish they'd take it back to rally though.
 
I didn't really know what to put for Cano's and Emad's noinations.
Emad: the reason why I choose the Maxima, is because you didn't pick a specific car for TVR, which personally I would of put a TVR nomination up there, but there ya go....:)

Well I'm off for the weekend, so if any more good nominations come up, if a mod could a it to the list with a possible little description of why it's been nnominated. The same format as I'm doing now. And make sure they give reasons for their nomination!!! :)
Thanks.
Tom
 
I think the Hyundai Lantra deserves to be the best car, because, It's so boring. You'd be the only person with one.
Think of the ricing!
 
Right I guess that's all the nominations we're going to get. So I will set up a poll soon. I guess the only way to do that is by starting a new thread.:rolleyes:
 
Land Rover Defender. Discovery? Pah. ;)
 
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Right I guess that's all the nominations we're going to get. So I will set up a poll soon. I guess the only way to do that is by starting a new thread.:rolleyes:
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Ferrari F40.

This car represents the design pinnacle of all road vehicles - and if you bear in mind what Pininfarina have done since then (the F50 and the Enzo count heavily in the against column, with only the Peugeot 406 Coupe in the for column) you can see that they think so too.

The car was the first verified 200mph+ production road vehicle (the Panther 6 claimed it, but only 2 were made - one replica and one prototype which crashed; the Ruf CTR2 Yellowbird made it, but was never a production car), and yet manages to be the only one of the 200mph club cars which is driveable off the track (although the side windows hamper getting car park tickets and paying on toll roads). In fact, not only is it driveable in public - it's actually USABLE in public, unlike the McLaren F1, XJ220, EB110, XJR15, GT40, Veyron (allegedly), Enzo, Carrera GT, Murcielago, Diablo and any of the homologation specials. No-one had done a 200mph road car before - so Ferrari used an existing road car (288GTO) to create a track-capable road car, rather than the road-legal track cars we see in all the other 200mph cars.

Coming in at 1 metric tonne (roughly 2200lbs) and with only 378hp from a tiny (comparatively) twin turbo-charged V8, the F40 is clearly also an exercise in creativity. Weight must be saved - performance could not be sacrificed.

Okay, so it hasn't advanced the human race much - being based on a former model and utilising Formula One technology, rather than the bespoke nature of cars like the Veyron and McLaren - but it was still the first, it's still the best-looking (if no longer the quickest) and if you want to drive it to the shops, you can. Try reversing a McLaren F1.
 
BMW M3: Gave birth to the concept of sports sedans which itself ushered in the era of Evo's, STi's and the explosion of AMG merc's.
 
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Eeessh...and I thought I had finalkly managed to get rid of Shakepear when I dropped English this year......:rolleyes: :D

Well talk about cutting it bl**fy close there Mike and Famine. I'm gonna try and set up the poll as soon as possible with little pics etc :D .
 
:tup:Lantra Lantra Lantra!👍
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Not to be confused with the Elantra
 
If it is not too late there Wee, what about the GT40? Won Le Man 3 times (if I remember correctly) and is still a legendary performer, 40 years after it was first created.
 
Originally posted by Famine
Ferrari F40.

This car represents the design pinnacle of all road vehicles - and if you bear in mind what Pininfarina have done since then (the F50 and the Enzo count heavily in the against column, with only the Peugeot 406 Coupe in the for column) you can see that they think so too.

The car was the first verified 200mph+ production road vehicle (the Panther 6 claimed it, but only 2 were made - one replica and one prototype which crashed; the Ruf CTR2 Yellowbird made it, but was never a production car), and yet manages to be the only one of the 200mph club cars which is driveable off the track (although the side windows hamper getting car park tickets and paying on toll roads). In fact, not only is it driveable in public - it's actually USABLE in public, unlike the McLaren F1, XJ220, EB110, XJR15, GT40, Veyron (allegedly), Enzo, Carrera GT, Murcielago, Diablo and any of the homologation specials. No-one had done a 200mph road car before - so Ferrari used an existing road car (288GTO) to create a track-capable road car, rather than the road-legal track cars we see in all the other 200mph cars.

Coming in at 1 metric tonne (roughly 2200lbs) and with only 378hp from a tiny (comparatively) twin turbo-charged V8, the F40 is clearly also an exercise in creativity. Weight must be saved - performance could not be sacrificed.

Okay, so it hasn't advanced the human race much - being based on a former model and utilising Formula One technology, rather than the bespoke nature of cars like the Veyron and McLaren - but it was still the first, it's still the best-looking (if no longer the quickest) and if you want to drive it to the shops, you can. Try reversing a McLaren F1.
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Erm, I have to take issue with a couple of things here Famine:

The car wasn't the design pinnacle of all road vehicles. You personally may find it to be the most attractive of all vehicles, but I think that to use the words "design" and "F40" in the same sentence is pushing things a little. In reality, the F40 was little more than a stretched 288GTO with a couple of crude-ish turbos slammed onto the pre-existing 3.0 V8 (for 478BHP, not 378BHP as you stated). In the name of saving weight, everything was binned, including the door-handles, which were replaced with bits of wire to operate the door-release mechanism. That was if you could get the doors to shut properly in the first place, because "engineering integrity" was right around the corner with "design". The chassis wasn't exactly comprehensively re-worked, as anyone who noticed the hand-welded X-shaped structure anchoring the roof corners to the opposing suspension mountings, indicating a certain difficulty coping with the boost coming from the blowers.

The race cars tended to expire on a fairly regular basis until a comprehensive reworking in 1992 brought some reliability. Indeed, this also benefitted the road cars, which grew catalytic convertors. The later cars can be determined because of the triple tailpipes, the centre pipe being a "dump to air" wastegate. The road cars on the other hand lost the glass engine cover of the concept because it couldn't dissipate the heat, and was too heavy. It was replaced with a louvred perspex engine cover, which was great until it rained, because when it rained, water would get into the engine, and it would expire. Oh, and it would still overheat when stationary for more than about a minute.

Ultimately, the F40 was a knee-jerk reaction to the Porsche 959, which was a technological feast, and was tearing up tarmac at around the 200mph mark. Jaguar were showing considerable will to put something akin to one of their Group C sportscars into production, and (although the XJ220 would be a long time in coming), Ferrari knew this. Also, at this point Lamborghini was in reasonable fettle, having signed off a 5.7l 470bhp version of their venerable V12, and had just been taken over by Chrysler, then being run by the infamous Lee Iaccoca. Iaccoca was keen to see a 200mph+ supercar coming from the Sant'Agata marque, and this concerned Ferrari deeply. This led to the somewhat rushed genesis of the F40.

It is for precisely these reasons that the F50 and Enzo have seemed so contrived in comparison with the F40. Seminal it was, planned and considered it was not.
 
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