Best Engines in the World
- Thread starter Schumy
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good poll dude! i went with BMW just because i love speed and F1 and they have the most powerful engines in F1, i am not to crazy about the cars they produce even though they do look pretty neat, but we aren't talking about a the look.
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i do enjoy those merc. touring cars also, i like the Opels better though 
- 98
Sure we can.
Find me another 1.2L or 1.3L NA that can be tweaked so cheaply (or at all) to 240 or so horsies. The Mazda rotary was made illegal in many races due to lack of classifyability, and wining so many endurance races due to lack of breakdown.And why not? Isn't that what a poll is all about? Opinions? If there was a clear cut choice, there wouldn't be much use for a poll.
Chalk me up for the rotary.
And what's this comment I read above (forget the author) about having to have a turbo, or turbos? In real life (not GT3) the 787B is naturally aspirated.
And furthermore, what is not desireanble about having another 30-100 hp on tap with the same vehicle weight and balance give or take 2%? 
Anywho, yeah. Mazda rotaries baby! Better to be rotary than pist-on... :burnout:
Originally posted by MazKid
Naw, I think I'll choose MB. In GT, I have always cosen MB before BMW, so I'll go with them, even thoughI ordered a X5 R/C car over a AMG ML55 R/C car.
Can't wait to get it, 1:12 Scale with speeds up to 20mph, and only $85 including shipping.
Merc do some good stuff, but the four bangers in the A Class are shockers - rough, and loud.
How could the people who did the M3 engine not win?
And, unlike Benz who hire Ilmor to do engines, BMW build their Grand Prix engine in-house!
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Alright! Another Mazda fan on the boards. Welcome, but drive carefully as several members here aren't too happy with us and our knowlage. I've gotten into several arguments, as shown on this thread, and I have to talk my way out. My dad owned a GSL-SE, so I know and can answer questions you may have. My dad had to sell it though, wouldn't pass emmitions and had rust starting in the wheel wells.
I agree that the Mecedes I.4 aren't the best, as in GT2, the A-Class was a rough sounding engine. Not to worry though, I will never be able to own one. I'll stick to used Mazdas thankyouverymuch.
I agree that the Mecedes I.4 aren't the best, as in GT2, the A-Class was a rough sounding engine. Not to worry though, I will never be able to own one. I'll stick to used Mazdas thankyouverymuch.
Originally posted by MazKid
I agree that the Mecedes I.4 aren't the best, as in GT2, the A-Class was a rough sounding engine. Not to worry though, I will never be able to own one. I'll stick to used Mazdas thankyouverymuch.
Actually, an A class with a little 13b in it would probably be a lot of fun!
- 98
The cavalry has arrived! Well, one guy on his white horse anyway.
Mine won't pass emissions now (header, no cats), and certainly won't very soon. I'm doing a transplant on the beast over the winter. Rest assured it won't be a Chevy V8 abomination though. I'm dropping a '90 J-spec turbo 13B engine and tranny in there.
Technically, I'm just pulling the TII engine and tranny at the moment. It should be all out and ready to begin the long cleanup and polishing job tomorrow night.http://home.mn.rr.com/linnihan/turbo_ii_powered.htm
So, do you know how to adapt the TII shifter to fit the space in the GSL-SE console where the stock shifter sits?
As far as bulletproof piston engines go, I think Honda and Toyota have their high beams on, and are ahead of the pack. The problem is that the term "best engines..." is a completely subjective thing. Does it mean best longevity, power per liter, fuel efficiency, ease of maintenance, good for racing applications (and if so, what kind of racing), upgrade parts availability, affordability, cold weather starting ability, boat pulling torque, or emissions ratings? Cornering all of these things with one engine would be pretty tough.
RX-7s are designed around the engine, and the light weight mid-ship placement of the engine gives the car a natural advantage on the track, or on a white knuckle ride down your favorite twisty road. Therefore, for most of the reasons above, and that my real life experience tells me that the rotary powered cars (this is my 4th) are plain fun to drive, I'd have to honestly say that for it's purpose and ingenious concept, the rotary is my number one choice.
I still admire all kinds of cars, but the rotary has my heart.
Whew! My fingers need a rest.
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Originally posted by White_GSL_SE
So, do you know how to adapt the TII shifter to fit the space in the GSL-SE console where the stock shifter sits?
You lost me on that one. My dad is a Mazda Tech, but he doesn't mod cars. I would think that it should be close to where the stock trans goes, but I couldn't tell you. If you want, you can E-mail my dad, but I don't know if he will help you, as he has a "no modification" policy. My brother does little mods on his MX-6, and last night he went to my dad's dealership to use the lifts, and left the drivers door open and as he lifted the car, it hit the control panel for the lift. when my dad got home from out of town, I told him, and he said "good, that's what he gets"
Ohh well
Deathhawk-Wrong A-Class. We were talking about the Mecedes A-Class model, not the race series, but thoes are cool too.
- 98
We have a Mazda tech in our club that pretty much won't do anything that isn't covered in the shop manual. Great tech, but if there isn't a "book time" or diagram to refer to, he's lost. A close friend of mine with little mechanical knowledge is paying him to swap a '87 TII motor into a '89 RX-7 'Vert, and this tech is lost on the wiring. I try to talk him through it, but it's like I'm speaking Italian or something, 'cause he just doesn't get it. :reallyodd
By the book guys have a hard time thinking outside the... book. Then again, if I could do the by the book stuff in half or a third of the book time, this swap job would be done tomorrow, since most of it is by the book (minus the emissions stuff that is).
You're dad need some edjucatin'.
By the book guys have a hard time thinking outside the... book.
Then again, if I could do the by the book stuff in half or a third of the book time, this swap job would be done tomorrow, since most of it is by the book (minus the emissions stuff that is). You're dad need some edjucatin'.
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My dad defantly doesn't need education, as he's been a Mazda Master tech for 20+ years, and he's not by the book, unless it's for wireing to a radio component that is not on the car.
He's one of the best, and has cut the time it takes to do a job down to half in most cases. He is mostly self tought, and the shop forman of the dealership he works at. All of our cars are Mazdas, with the exeption of a Ford probe, which is a MX-6 basicly. We own 6 mazdas, and in total have owned 8, all were used.
He's one of the best, and has cut the time it takes to do a job down to half in most cases. He is mostly self tought, and the shop forman of the dealership he works at. All of our cars are Mazdas, with the exeption of a Ford probe, which is a MX-6 basicly. We own 6 mazdas, and in total have owned 8, all were used.
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So has the guy in our club that is lost on any modification that is not covered by Mazda training courses or the manual.
The educating I was referring to was his erroneous belief that wrecking your car door on a lift is appropriate "punishment" for trying to mod a car. Shame, shame...
I'm sure your dad is a very qualified Mazda tech under shop circumstances, and not "winging it" by doing things the manufacturer probably didn't have in mind when they built the car. And to be fair, the majority of Mazda techs I have spoken to know next to nothing about working outside the box. It's just not what they are trained or paid to do.
Matter of fact, I had a 12 year Mazda tech try to tell me that the 13B and 12A engines are identical.
I'm not gonna have a "my dad can _______ better than your dad" argument here, but from my personal experience, have decided to work on my own car exclusively anyway. I just can't find a Mazda tech I can really trust. And you should hear what the 3rd gen RX-7 guys say about Mazda techs...
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You haven't seen my brother in action. He aggravates my dad a lot, with problems with his car cause by him, and then when my dad is working on his car, my brother says "I know some people that say if you do this it's better" My dad hates being told what to do.
My dad doesn't deal with mods, and when someone takes their car in and have mods, he just works around them. Mazda doesn't train on how to do mods, so when my dad comes across a car like that, he's on his own.
I'm not saying my dad is better than yours, I'm just saying that he is good at what he does, and he doesn't do mods, unless it's a mod to make something work better without adding parts.
He has done some mods, like changing my brother's 626 automatic into a manuel.
My dad doesn't deal with mods, and when someone takes their car in and have mods, he just works around them. Mazda doesn't train on how to do mods, so when my dad comes across a car like that, he's on his own.
I'm not saying my dad is better than yours, I'm just saying that he is good at what he does, and he doesn't do mods, unless it's a mod to make something work better without adding parts.
He has done some mods, like changing my brother's 626 automatic into a manuel.
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RB26DETT or a Veyron 16/4 my fav's. None of the ones on your list. Definitely not one of the top four, those suk the most.
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Holy Cr!p 
This IS an OLD thread!
This IS an OLD thread!
ShobThaBob
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What the crap? Were you just looking for the oldest possible thread to respond to? I mean...really...WTF?!
Cano
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OMG of course Ford makes the best engines in the world!!!
I cant believe the three americans were included. the only really respectable engine there is the LS6. and I think Audi was blatantly left out of this poll. right now I would have to say that Honda is developing the best engines. BMW and mercedes follow suit, but with different engineering. maybe it would be a tie.
Cano
Audi, hell!!!
I cant believe the three americans were included. the only really respectable engine there is the LS6. and I think Audi was blatantly left out of this poll. right now I would have to say that Honda is developing the best engines. BMW and mercedes follow suit, but with different engineering. maybe it would be a tie.
Cano
Audi, hell!!!
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- rollazn
To anyone who dont know the story behind mclearn and honda and bmw... here it is...
At the time, McLaren was racing successfully with Honda engines, and it seemed logical to approach Honda for an engine meeting Murray's requirements. But the Japanese declined, feeling that they could not spare the capacity to develop such a project. So Murray then turned to BMW Motorsport and his old friend Paul Rosche, who had provided the engines to the Brabham team while Murray was in charge. Rosche enthusiastically accepted.
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At the time, McLaren was racing successfully with Honda engines, and it seemed logical to approach Honda for an engine meeting Murray's requirements. But the Japanese declined, feeling that they could not spare the capacity to develop such a project. So Murray then turned to BMW Motorsport and his old friend Paul Rosche, who had provided the engines to the Brabham team while Murray was in charge. Rosche enthusiastically accepted.
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