Best sports car for x amount of $

[YSSMAN]

I have to say that I'm skeptical.

Aye. Especially if said Mustang V6 is coming out the door without the Pony Pack.

 

[JCE]

Interesting reading...

2011 Mustang V6 Magnaflow catback exhaust $449-499

Increase In Performance And Sound. Bolting on a Pypes Mid Muffler Catback Exhaust to a stock 2011 V6 Mustang will yield an instant 5 to 10 horsepower gain at the rear wheels. It features two of Pypes high flow M-80 Bullet Style Mufflers for the ultimate in unrestricted flow and power gains for a deeper throaty tone.

2011 Mustang V6 BBK intake $299-334

Improves Horsepower. A BBK Cold Air Intake improves the airflow path into your Mustang's engine for more power and better acceleration all while filtering out harmful power robbing dust particles. This BBK CAI kit completely replaces your 2011 V6 Mustangs restrictive stock factory air box and paper filter element with a high flow BBK filter assembly for an increase of 8 to 10 rear wheel horsepower.

So that's 13-20 rear wheel horsepower which is what at the crank? 15~23bhp? So along with the improved throttle response of the upgrades the V6 Mustang should net that 0.4s to 60mph and 0.6s in the 1/4mi to equal that 6.0L GTO.

 

[Kylehnat]

When you're in the 13's, 20 bhp won't get you 0.6 seconds.

 

[Rotary Junkie]

Also has to be considered that one or the other may make up a larger portion of possible gains than both at the same time.

 

[niky]

Also has to be considered that one or the other may make up a larger portion of possible gains than both at the same time.

True. When you're talking about breathing mods, 10+10 sometimes equals 15. Sometimes it equals 25, but I doubt you could get so lucky on a modern engine.

Also, there's no word on where in the power range those gains are. I've seen some aftermarket parts claim 15 hp, and it turns out that the 15 hp gain is where the stock power falls off a cliff right near redline... which means you gain 15 hp in the last 300 rpm before the rev-limiter.

 

[Mustangman99]

Ugh.

It's relatively simple. There have been very many "what car would you buy for x money" threads. They have been done before. Many times. We don't need another one. If this is another one - and it appears to be based on your opening post - I will lock it.

However "what car is the best for x money" hasn't been done before. Furthermore "what sportscar is the best for x money" is interesting. I wouldn't lock it.


Since you just picked your favourite cars for x money in the first place, the purpose of the thread becomes the former despite the title of the thread being the latter. Which is a pity.



No they aren't. The Mustang is a pony car. The Murcielago is a supercar. The SSC Ultimate Aero is a hypercar. These things are designed, built and function on entirely different principles to a sports car - and as said before, the principles of a sports car may well preclude there being any $1m sportscars, and Stotty's examples being about the only time you can approach $500k for one.



Following your example. You, after all, started the thread.



You started the thread. You defined it when you posted. You are in control of whether it remains open or not.

If it's a discussion of the best sportscars for x money, it stays open. If it's a discussion of what people would buy from any type of car for x money it gets locked. This is so breathtakingly simple that it shouldn't require explaining to you three times.

No need for sarcasm. Ive had nothing but sarcasm from the mods. But yes, I should have worded it better. It isn't what is your favorite, but what you think has the best value.

 

[GT_Prologue5]

Sportscars? Okay, why not.

$30,000- Probably a new 2011 Ford Focus ST
$50,000- 2010 Land Rover LR4 HSE (you say sport, this is sport in a different sense)
$80,000- 2011 Lotus Evora 2+0
$150,000- 2010 Lotus Exige S260 Sport
Wouldn't go higher than that.

And all are sportscars. And what I would buy, if I had the money.

 

[astrosdude91]

The first and second are not sportscars. The first is a hot-hatch, and the second is not a car but an SUV.

 

[Space Dynamics]

Under 3k:

1997 Grand Prix GTP

 

[Famine]

No need for sarcasm. Ive had nothing but sarcasm from the mods.

There was no sarcasm.

You wouldn't get stick from the mods if you paid attention to what we said at the first time of asking. Two moderators told you not to post just to advertise your own website. You ignored them and did it again. Rather than ban you - which is the default action for advertising - they took the time to explain to you what you did wrong twice. You accused them of misusing their mod power to "troll".

Three times you've been told to define your thread better. You've taken half a step here:

But yes, I should have worded it better. It isn't what is your favorite, but what you think has the best value.

but you're still left with "What's the best car for x money" - which isn't a thread that's going to last long as people start to bicker over the GT-R versus the Z06 again. If you're going to stick with your title of "best sports car", you need to direct members better than providing them with 5 examples and have three of them not fit the title. Otherwise we end up with people posting supercars, SUVs, monster trucks, Formula One cars and muscle and pony cars out the wazoo.

"Best sports car for x amount of $" stays open. "Best car for x amount of $" does not.

 

[Pupik]

Is that better? I'd even request them all to be painted beige to better suit the amount of excitement typical for the kind of person who worries that much about maintenance costs when talking about what sports cars they fantasize about buying at various price points.

In that case, you'd better switch that to three times more base-model Hyundai Accents, since those 13" tires are far cheaper than those 215/60R16 (94V) tires you'll need for all those Camrys.

Sorry for ruining the thread, carry on.

 

[socomplayer2]

I'm going to go with only brand-new cars. Picking used options makes this a bit easy, and a bit redundant for me (those of you who know me can guess what they are)...

$30,000 - Volkswagen Golf GTI MKVI
The overall look, feel and attitude of the car is about perfect for what I'd want. A comfortable car for day-to-day use that can crank it up to eleven when necessary. Price it right, stay away from the options, and you can get a helluva deal.

$50,000 - Ford Mustang BOSS 302R
This is probably the best car produced in America, right now. Hands down. I mean, I love my Corvettes (see the next spot), but this car is a God damned miracle. It's one of the fastest, best-handling, and arguably best-looking cars you can get. Tweaking the 5.0L GT and it's suspension to this level? Madness. Absolute madness.

$100,000 - Chevrolet Corvette "Z07"
Take the suspension, brakes and tires off a ZR1 and stick them on a Z06, you get a Z07. No, it's not quite as quick as the ZR1, but for those of us who prefer the big 7.0L and that outrageous howl that comes out the back... Yeah, that's the choice you want to make.

$500,000 - Mercedes SLS
Okay, it isn't the obvious answer that usually includes a prancing horse or a raging bull, but dammit, I love the thing. The look, sound and all around awesomeness of the car is built into the fact that it is so understated. I wouldn't expect people to turn in awe of the car, and I don't want them to. That's what makes it so awesome. Plus, it's probably the best-handling Merc they've screwed together in a while. And, I can still have money for that Corvette as well as the GTI for $500,000.

$1,000,000 - Ferrari 599 GTO
I really can't come up with anything better. The car simply defies physics.

YSSMAN, I have come to the conclusion that me and you must be long lost car soul mates.

Aside from the 500,000 dollar category which I would choose a 2009 Dodge Viper ACR and use the remaining change on racing tires, a cage and other necessary safety maintenance and parts for my own personal super track car.👍

 

[YSSMAN]

I was struggling on what I wanted for the $500K category. The SLS for me is the car in the supercar category at the moment. Blame the fancy doors and the fact I get to look at a shiny one during the F1 races... But it is still probably the best Mercedes they've done in the better part of a decade (Well, with the exception of the CLK63 Black).

The only other car I could think of was the Noble M600, but seeing as how I can't get it in the US, and the known fact it would probably kill me... What's the point?

 

[GT_Prologue5]

The first and second are not sportscars. The first is a hot-hatch, and the second is not a car but an SUV.

Think sport differently. Sport doesn't have to contain huge turbo engines, a nice Focus ST has a nice sport to it, and the LR4 is just off-road sport. You don't always have to be on pavement you know...

 

[ROAD_DOGG33J]

Think sport differently. Sport doesn't have to contain huge turbo engines

It doesn't, but it can't be a souped-up SUV or hatchback either.

 

[niky]

Yes... but of course, a fast truck is not a sports car. It can be a sports truck, though.

 

[BrutherSuperior]

Interesting reading...

2011 Mustang V6 Magnaflow catback exhaust $449-499


2011 Mustang V6 BBK intake $299-334


So that's 13-20 rear wheel horsepower which is what at the crank? 15~23bhp? So along with the improved throttle response of the upgrades the V6 Mustang should net that 0.4s to 60mph and 0.6s in the 1/4mi to equal that 6.0L GTO.

Those 'advertised' power figures should be taken with a dump truck full of salt. I say this b/c there is no penalty for bending the truth as much as the performance part manufacturers often do.

Once upon a time, swapping out things like intakes & heat extractors yielded big results. Today, this doesn't happen much,if at all, b/c of the engineering that has gone into the car.

If you stop & think about it, cars today are pretty efficient. They get the maximum HP out of the engine to receive the maximum MPG rating they can obtain. There are some allowances for ping & a bad tank of gas, but not much.

Oily intakes and loud mufflers do not increase the efficiency of the engine nor do they affect airflow in such a manner that more fuel is added. In fact, adding these can affect the acoustics (phasing) of intake/exhaust and rob HP. The way to make more power in a car is trapped inside the OBDII port. Until you get in there - swapping out parts really isn't going to do much as the car's computer (fords are EECs right?) will compensate by leaning things out so the CO2 factories (catalytic converters) stay nice & toasty warm.

Think of things this way: all the sensors and computers on an engine serve the purpose of making sure that car passes US Fed emissions standards. Change one part and there will be a conga-line of little electronic devices to make sure you're not killing any orphaned baby whales.

Want 20HP an easy way? Change your fluids to syn, find a gas station that carries 100% gasoline instead of the E10 enviro-weenie crap, and dive into the OBDII port. Ok, so it's not 'easy' - but it's often how part vendors get the numbers they claim on the dyno.

 

[Space Dynamics]

In fact, adding these can affect the acoustics (phasing) of intake/exhaust and rob HP. T

Exactly why I looove forced induction. Don't have to worry about that annoying stuff.

 

[Tornado]

Want 20HP an easy way? Change your fluids to syn, find a gas station that carries 100% gasoline instead of the E10 enviro-weenie crap, and dive into the OBDII port. Ok, so it's not 'easy' - but it's often how part vendors get the numbers they claim on the dyno.

We've actually been looking for a 100% gas station. All of the ones around here seem to use E10, and it has killed the power in dad's car.

 

[DearS]

I;m surprised how different preferences are, especially compare to mine.

30k Used 330i
50k Used 528i and used RX8.
100k Boxster Spyder and used A8.
500k Ferrari 458, Cayenne, 750il, G37, Swift and RX8 r3
1000k Boxster Spyder, 750il and retirement.