Bewildered, Frustrated by LIMITS!!!

[FishHunters]

As I experience more of GT5 it's become more of a shake your head, gettin ticked off kind of thing!

LIMITS! Why do they care what we do with the game?

20 Mil credits
1 car per day sent to someone.
1 mil cr transfer of a car.

Tried to give away two cars I don't need and was told after sending one; you're at your limit for the day. WHY DO THEY CARE how many I send? Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!

 

[PintSizedPurple]

Its so people don't abuse the system, but I don't see why it matters.

 

[ed24]

The daily limit of car trades is due to people with multiple accounts exploiting the system.

 

[BarronGeddon]

You should never play an MMORPG, FishHunters.

Your head will explode =)

 

[Corpsey]

the one that bothers me the most is the 100 favourites :\

 

[CarBastard]

the one that bothers me the most is the 100 favourites :\

And the limit of selling an expensive car. And the limit of winning a car only once. And the limited number of events. And the limit of Premium Race cars. And the limit of officially supported steering wheels...

Ohhh...the idea of limits and what it's made to mankind....

 

[VTiRoj]

I believe the 20 mil credit cap is so you can earn the penniless trophy no matter how far into the game you get. Earn 20 mil, buy a 20mil car, violla.

The daily car limit is so PD's servers dont explode.

I think the 1 mil car limit was an attempt to stop dupers duping the rare cars. I might be wrong.

 

[bombe32]

They limit all that to make you play the game more. Can't blame them.

However, why they didn't make more events to keep people busy with instead is a mystery. And the lack of car tuning restrictions are hopeless too. Good thing that we have our online series in the online racing forum.

 

[Ford Driver]

I imagine it also has something to do with "real world trading".
1 car per day trading limit exists so that people can not dupe hundreds of cars and set up a full blown ebay business selling endless numbers of cars every day.
Likewise, the 1 million credit limit is in force to prevent the same thing. There are plenty of kids out there who would give their pocket money for an X2010, P4, Miura etc.
It's not PD who want to limit us, it's the idiots who exploit everything possible who ruin things for us all.

That's how I see it anyway.

 

[95GTIVR6]

the one that bothers me the most is the 100 favourites :\

NOOOOOO!

I knew there had to be a limit. That is how I can tell if I have rebuilt the engine/body in used cars!!!

Why can't they allow us to add notes!

 

[maxpontiac]

Fish on!!

 

[Exorcet]

The daily car limit is so PD's servers dont explode.

Those servers must be from the 1500's.

And the peniless trophy is worthless, they should just remove it from the game, and then there's no need for a stupid money limit.

 

[Doog]

All of those things annoy the heck out of me, too.
But some things that drive me nuts:

How when you buy a car for several million credits, drive it a little, and realize it's crap, and you go to sell it, and the game tells you that this particular car cannot be sold. Or, if you're lucky, the game will let you sell it, but the car is worth almost nothing, and you're losing out on several million credits. WTF? I mean, really, is there any reason the car cannot be sold, even for the drastically reduced price of most cars that you sell? No, there really isn't. And I don't really think that this feature is realistic, either. Chances are, in real life, if you bought a classic race car for several million dollars from an auction or a wealthy individual, the car has probably been bought and sold several times in its lifetime. But in Gran Turismo 5, apparently the car cannot be sold, physically. You just get the option to remove it from the garage, but who would want to do that? That's basically like purchasing an expensive computer, hating it, and then throwing it out the window. And that also brings me to the massive depreciation that hits cars immediately after you purchase them. Why? It's like the player has the curse or something, it's ridiculous. If you go to the used car dealership and purchase a Subaru Impreza for 27,000 credits, and you go back to sell it, it's probably only worth 6,000 credits, which is a bunch of bull. It's as if from the time that vehicle was purchased new by its original owner until the time you purchased it, the vehicle did not depreciate at all. Not one cent. And that itself is flawed because if I were to purchase a new Subaru Impreza from the new car dealership for, say, 35,000 credits, and I turned around and sold it, it would only be worth 7,000 credits or less. That's just crazy. How come the guy who purchased that Subaru Impreza that you bought from the used car dealership didn't experience any depreciation on his vehicle. My only theory is that, yes, he did experience the massive depreciation, and the used car dealership has an astronomical markup on its vehicles because they can. In that case, the used car dealership is a scam. Whew, glad I got that off of my chest. Thanks for listening.

 

[Corpsey]

Those servers must be from the 1500's.

And the peniless trophy is worthless, they should just remove it from the game, and then there's no need for a stupid money limit.

indeed.. it would be more skillful to get penniless without the limit though

 

[analog]

I believe the 20 mil credit cap is so you can earn the penniless trophy no matter how far into the game you get. Earn 20 mil, buy a 20mil car, violla.

Could be but then why create such a trophy in the first place?

 

[CMvan46]

I believe the 20 mil credit cap is so you can earn the penniless trophy no matter how far into the game you get. Earn 20 mil, buy a 20mil car, violla.

The daily car limit is so PD's servers dont explode.

I think the 1 mil car limit was an attempt to stop dupers duping the rare cars. I might be wrong.

And a sensible person here. Realistically why do you need more than 20 million?

They probably had a vision of having some very rare cars in this game but that was born out the window with all the duping early on.

Oh and if you have more than 100 favorites they really aren't your "favorites". Thats 1 in 10 cars which is more than enough.

 

[CSLACR]

The penniless trophy is most easily achieved in the beginning. but I did it at level 22, randomly, just using math.

The limits are stupid, if somebody wants to exploit the system, what reason do I or anyone else have to care?
I exploit the system now, like a lot of people, not because it "hinders game difficulty" and makes it easier for me. I do it because I don't want to only be able to paint one set of wheels chrome.

There's no good reason cars can't be sold, or must be sold for 1/4 value either. When I buy from the used dealer we pay at least 75% of new value.

It's a stupid system created to cater to people complaining "it's not fair, he has this this and that!".

I guess the lesson in life here is whine more loudly than the other guys and you'll get your way. Whatever.

And a sensible person here. Realistically why do you need more than 20 million?

They probably had a vision of having some very rare cars in this game but that was born out the window with all the duping early on.

Oh and if you have more than 100 favorites they really aren't your "favorites". Thats 1 in 10 cars which is more than enough.

Then why let people trade in the first place? It's a new feature, they could have put something else in instead. (And I don't believe for a second it's about "server space", or anything of the like.)

 

[jaycee_xr3]

Come oooon

 

[jsanford76]

My only theory is that, yes, he did experience the massive depreciation, and the used car dealership has an astronomical markup on its vehicles because they can. In that case, the used car dealership is a scam. Whew, glad I got that off of my chest. Thanks for listening.

That's what happens when you have to deal with a monopoly. There is only 1 UCD that you can by cars from, unless you count the OCD, but I have a feeling that they are both run by the same owner.

 

[OK8]

but I have a feeling that they are both run by the same owner.

Must be, both stores play the same awful music.

 

[saleenf5]

speaking of limits, why do some cars have random limits in their tuning? I can turbo my volvo estate but not my 190e???

 

[Korza]

Because the 190E wasn't turbochargeable.

 

[RufusGonePunk]

But what makes it 'unturbochargeable'?

 

[stubbzie07]

Just to add, while there is a 20mil credit cap on your aspec driver, there is also a 20mil credit cap on each bspec driver.

So if you are lucky you can save up 140mil all together.

 

[DEATHSARTHE]

At the end of the day, these cars in GT5 are nothing but a model mixed with some stats that we all play in a digital game. Things like trade limits is what causes the crazy notions that they're anymore than that. Its pretty ludacris and such a lazy compromise that negatively effects everyone, not just the people duping.

If everyone just had the cars they want, everyone would be happy. Isn't that better than everyone being frustrated over a trade limit?

I mean it would be so much more benefitial for GT5's online community to have unlimited trades. It would revamp the community, bring people back, people will always have the ability to get exactly what car they want, more social networking, more use of GT5's online features... I mean GT5 really has hardly anything to lose from this...

Now I suppose someone is going to come and call me out saying "well I saved for weeks to get my first 20 mil cr. car, this isn't fair!"

Aspec should be its own entity as far as I'm concerned. For example... there should be awards and prizes that can't be traded like special edition cars, suits, paints, trophies, achievements ect ect... Aspec should be where the depth of the game is and players shouldn't be discouraged to challenge themselves and earn the unique awards. I see a lot of hardcore players exploring all the challenges in Aspec.

I just think PD is kinda treating Online like an extension of Aspec - when it really has so much potential to pull this game together in so many ways. But to do this, it would require TLC for the entire game - and PD just won't do it or will do it in a re-release sometime next year...

 

[IceMan PJN]

I believe the 20 mil credit cap is so you can earn the penniless trophy no matter how far into the game you get. Earn 20 mil, buy a 20mil car, violla.

In a way I can buy that, but the same could be done with any number of other possible figures. For example, with a 40-mil credit cap you could just buy two 20-mil cars and get the same Trophy. If it was 30-mil you could buy a 20-mil car and a 10-mil car, three 10-mil cars, a 20-mil car and twenty NASCARs, et cetera. As long as the cap comes to a nice, round number, there's always a combination of cars that can easily get someone the penniless Trophy.

 

[pay2021]

20 mill cap, crap, GT4 was fine, 1 trading per day, crap, they are REAL money flowing everywhere everytime in the net and a 60 mill game cant trade more than once because of the servers? crap, because of the abuse? let me choose!!

 

[Jack002]

The 20 mil cap is the worst limit.

Realistic. All the stuff we hear about this and that in the game that is how it is cause its real. In real life I can have more than 20M in cash.

The penniless trophy. So what? Its a dumb trophy that takes no skill at all. Once you get it you still can't have more cash.

Cars cost up to 20M, why can't we have at least 40M or 100M?

 

[RacerPaul]

Yes, the limits in the game do seem weird The re-sale value of the cars is a particular pain, imo

In Shift 2, you get back every credit you've spent, including any upgrades added

So there's no limit (bad-a-bing! ) on just getting a car to try out. Don't like it? No harm done, just sell it

Slightly off the topic of limits, theres one thing I'd love to see in GT5...

The currency used in-game should imo be appropriate to the language you select when first setting up the game

 

[analog]

speaking of limits, why do some cars have random limits in their tuning? I can turbo my volvo estate but not my 190e???

Those limits aren't random, that's a choice made by PD, whether those choices are always the right one (meaning that some cars in GT5 which aren't able to be turbocharged could use a turbo in my opinion whilst cars like the 20 million '67 Le Mans racers and a car like the Alfa TZ2 where this option is available it just seems wrong in my opinion) can be debated but they aren't random.