BMW Lineup?

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I was talking about the 2004 5-Series (E60). Sorry, I wasn't too clear on which 5-Series I was talking about. I like the way they look right now; I'm just not liking the 2004 model (E60) at all. I don't like that all BMWs will look like that in the future.
 
i agree with you on the styling but as long as their performance stays the same or gets better i'll be happy
 
If hot hatches are outpacing an E30 M3 then the driver of the M3 is either blind or the driver of the Hot Hatch is bloody shumacer (spelling?), there is no way any hot hatch can beat this car, the most powerful hot hatch i can thik of at the moment is the focus RS or R32 golf, and even with all that power they dont compare in the power to weight ratio, plus the sheer nimbleness and amazing road holding of these E30s is staggering, they can beat 250-270bhp imprezas on the track. The Evo Sport running 215bhp can outdo almost anything with up to 250bhp (apart from lightwieght kit cars, caterhams etc.). Trust me, even if you dont like the E30, you cannot denie its performance, its got a track record that is yet to be beaten, or matched. Over 10 years since the 1st one rolled out of the factory and it can still hold its own with cars in the same powerband. Opinions are opinions, but facts are facts, this is a good performance vehicle, even in this day and age.
 
Originally posted by Yazza
If hot hatches are outpacing an E30 M3 then the driver of the M3 is either blind or the driver of the Hot Hatch is bloody shumacer (spelling?), there is no way any hot hatch can beat this car, the most powerful hot hatch i can thik of at the moment is the focus RS or R32 golf, and even with all that power they dont compare in the power to weight ratio, plus the sheer nimbleness and amazing road holding of these E30s is staggering, they can beat 250-270bhp imprezas on the track. The Evo Sport running 215bhp can outdo almost anything with up to 250bhp (apart from lightwieght kit cars, caterhams etc.). Trust me, even if you dont like the E30, you cannot denie its performance, its got a track record that is yet to be beaten, or matched. Over 10 years since the 1st one rolled out of the factory and it can still hold its own with cars in the same powerband. Opinions are opinions, but facts are facts, this is a good performance vehicle, even in this day and age.
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.... but its Schumacher
 
Originally posted by Yazza
If hot hatches are outpacing an E30 M3 then the driver of the M3 is either blind or the driver of the Hot Hatch is bloody shumacer (spelling?), there is no way any hot hatch can beat this car, the most powerful hot hatch i can thik of at the moment is the focus RS or R32 golf, and even with all that power they dont compare in the power to weight ratio, plus the sheer nimbleness and amazing road holding of these E30s is staggering, they can beat 250-270bhp imprezas on the track. The Evo Sport running 215bhp can outdo almost anything with up to 250bhp (apart from lightwieght kit cars, caterhams etc.). Trust me, even if you dont like the E30, you cannot denie its performance, its got a track record that is yet to be beaten, or matched. Over 10 years since the 1st one rolled out of the factory and it can still hold its own with cars in the same powerband. Opinions are opinions, but facts are facts, this is a good performance vehicle, even in this day and age.
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So what you're saying is, from the many events I've been to, every Hot hatch driver are Schumachers and Every M3 drivers are bad? no.

I have chased and passed a few of these before on my Toyota Celica TS (dynoed at 208bhp). Powerwise, the car is pretty quick, they DO pull away slightly on the straights. Power is merely but one factor. What I found was that they lack in Chassis performance, Suspensions and Brake, and the fact that after 3 laps of hard driving they come back into the pits smoking, probably because of its age. If you really want, i could upload the part a video where I chased and took the M3. I'don't hate the car, I have great respect for it, its just when you say this and that, I didnt find it very impressive.

oh and trust me some hot hatches can be very fast.

i remember I saw a dutchman with an M3 just like yours at zolder, i wonder if that was you :)

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dyno here
http://users.skynet.be/sky71517/celicapage/pics/misc/dyno.jpg
 
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