BMW Z4 GT3

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Has anyone drivin this car? Wow. What a peice of crap. The snap oversteer. Or should I say ghost driver that pulls the wheel in an almost not correctable manner when I apply the brakes is insane. I have made it better by adjusting the brake bias to the front but it's still just garbage. This has got to be a programming error or something. It's just no fun to drive. I mean it's like doing an endo on a motorcycle going 100 mph then all of a sudden mother nature plops a tornado next to you. It's just insane. Is this just the nature of the
beast or can we possibly expect, or hope/Piss in the wind that this changes? The car is beautiful. It's a shame.
 
One hit to wall with that and it's crap on default setup, after body rigidity restore it goes better, but still is bit twitchy.
Brakes need to set "softer", so reduce values on brake bias to help a bit.
 
I made a simple tune quite awhile ago, I find the car pretty good to drive, I may drive the car again next time and make an update if necessary :)

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BMW Z4 GT3 '11 600PP
Tuned on Racing Hard
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CAR : BMW Z4 GT3 '11
Tire : Racing Hard

Specs
Horsepower: 534 HP at 8500 RPM
Torque: 399.0 ft-lb at 5500 RPM
Power Limiter at : 100%
Weight: 1190 kg
Ballast : 0 kg
Ballast Position : 0
Weight Distribution : 48 / 52
Performance Points: 600



GT AUTO
Oil change
Wheels : Standard
Car Paint : Standard



Tuning Parts Installed :
Racing Exhaust
Suspension Fully Customizable Kit
Fully Customizable Dog Clutch Transmission
Adjustable LSD
Racing Brakes Kit



AERO
Front : 350 ( stock )
Rear : 730 ( stock ) --- adjust according to track, running max aero is preferable.



LSD ( 2 way medium preload )
Initial Torque : 19
Acceleration Sensitivity: 46
Braking Sensitivity: 46



Suspension
Front, Rear
Ride Height: 75 80
Spring Rate: 13.27 15.58 --- alternative stiffer rate : F 17.27 R 20.25
Dampers (Compression): 7 6
Dampers (Extension): 9 5
Anti-Roll Bars: 7 5
Camber Angle: 0.0 0.0
Toe Angle: -0.04 0.16



Transmission
Stock gearing and final, I would recommend adjust final according to the track.



Brake Balance:
9/8 ( personal BB) or for ABS 0 wheel : 3/2, for ABS 1 8/6 or feel free to use your preferred brake balance.

Recommended setting for DS3 user :
Steering sensitivity at +1 or +2, all aids off, except ABS 1 ( if not comfortable with ABS 0 ) with 7/6 brake balance as starting point.



Notes :


Wow, I have heard this car is unruly and a beast to drive :lol:, so I bought it and drove it, to my surprise it was one of the easiest GT3 car ( similar to SLS AMG GT3 ) :D. I did simple suspension and LSD tweak to make it even more fun while easy to drive ( well for me :lol: ). Tested and tuned at Brands Hatch GP and Mt Panorama Bathurst. With above tune, it managed 1:22s at Brands Hatch GP and easy consistent 2:07s at Bathurst.

The Z4 has very sharp handling, nimble in low speed corners, be smooth and steady, trail braking is highly advised for better lap times.
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Us lot on this side of the world had to do an entire TT based around this car with no tuning. :yuck: I can sort of understand why it's got snap oversteer using the stock settings (LSD Accel at 40, shortish wheelbase, etc.), but the odd occasion when the car dives under hard braking from high speed definitely needs to some getting used to. Camber and toe settings being pretty ginormous stock also makes it a bit…odd to drive. It's just a bit of a meh car, I think.
 
The stickier the tires the easier it is to notice. I'm a fan of the RH's but those public lobbies are hard to come by so I notice it a lot
 
Strange, I've been kicking AI 🤬 with it and have been having a ball driving it so far under stock settings, my favorite GT3 car so far. I have experienced the problems you have mentioned, but have remained mostly unfazed by them.
 
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Strange, I've been kicking AI 🤬 with it and have been having a ball driving it so far under stock settings, my favorite GT3 car so far. I have experienced the problems you have mentioned, but have remained mostly unfazed by them.
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To be fair, you could kick the AI's 🤬 in this:

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pyrates
To be fair, you could kick the AI's 🤬 in this:

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I'm aware of that :lol:, but my point is that I haven't really been fazed or affected that bad by these issues the OP is talking about.

I will add that the car has some particular quirks such as hating Kerbs, squirming a bit too much under braking and some torqueyness at low gears that may or not kill you but overall it's a nice car if you take these quirks into account when driving.
 
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The car's just a bit difficult to handle. That's all.

Some GT6 cars are hard to handle and some are easy, and there are all the types in between. Thankfully there is this variation in the game.
 
It's a great car, one of my favourite race cars due to its lively nature.

You need to play with the damping to control the dive. Up the LSD Inital and braking.

Maybe it just suits my driving style, of sliding around a bit, even on slicks.

I find many cars, even with heavily revised suspension and diff settings, need a careful approach to braking whilst turning in, once on the brakes, all you need is to 'lean' on the steering in your chosen direction, don't try to turn the wheel, you just need the slightest of movements to ease the front end in, this can give excellent results with MR RR and touchy FR cars with braking over rotation issues.
 
It might not be a programming error...

However that is not how the car actually drives. Most GT3 cars IRL are extremely stable, neutral, and easy to drive. GT3 cars in GT6 however, another story...

PD seems to apply wacky physics to what they want based on how they want the car to drive. Newsflash it isn't how it's supposed to be.
 
I feel like a "Some say that...." Should be said as per above, but really the car is how you drive it. Some are easier, some are harder. I think that PD doesn't tell us which ones are those. As in the R18 is hands down an excellent car, if you tune it well... But the speed 8 is an easy car from the get go, and still destroys the R18..

So it's most likely not the car, and most likely not the driver.... If you know what I'm getting to..
 
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Crispy
It might not be a programming error...

However that is not how the car actually drives. Most GT3 cars IRL are extremely stable, neutral, and easy to drive. GT3 cars in GT6 however, another story...

PD seems to apply wacky physics to what they want based on how they want the car to drive. Newsflash it isn't how it's supposed to be.
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how do you know? In assetto corsa the GT3 cars are remarkably similar to GT6, professional drivers can overcome the issues your talking about with both setup and skill, I really wouldn't think driving GT3 cars is a breeze. Also you have to remember that because it's difficult for you doesn't mean it's difficult for the next person, I personally can't get to grips with many FF cars.
 
Put some laps in around Brands Hatch and Bathurst last night (bone stock, ABS1 all other aids off, MT, T500RS). Seems fine to me. It's 'twitchy' if you you hit high curbs at full throttle, or primarily with the rear wheels. It's not great at braking on off camber corners. But it rotates really well through corners and feels quite lively.
 
Real life GT3 cars has many electronic aids enabled, TCS, ABS etc.Even the R8 LMS Ultra has wide level of TCS settings. I think it should not be that easy to drive in GT6 without any aids.
 
I haven't driven lots of racing cars but this one is very easy to drive compared to the Paganini Zonda r or the Ferrari fxx. The only thing I've done is to in increase downforce to the max
 
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how do you know? In assetto corsa the GT3 cars are remarkably similar to GT6, professional drivers can overcome the issues your talking about with both setup and skill, I really wouldn't think driving GT3 cars is a breeze. Also you have to remember that because it's difficult for you doesn't mean it's difficult for the next person, I personally can't get to grips with many FF cars.
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Not sure we're playing the same Assetto Corsa, the GT3 cars are all easy to handle until you get into trouble, like the real GT3 cars.

It's not me either, Chris Harris says the same thing about GT3 cars. When he tested the R8 LMS he remarked at how simple the car was to drive, even in the rain.

Let us not forget that it's in the name. GT3 isn't a professional series. Sure the drivers are good, but by and large it involves better than average drivers competing in racing. It's not to say that the cars are impossible to handle. The Z4 GT3 is still easy for me to drive, but it doesn't handle like it should. GT3 cars don't slide about during braking.
 
I read somewhere on other thread that Chris Harris drove the R8 LMS with aids on, it was TCS on level 7 if not mistaken, so it may be easier to handle even in the rain. If someone would try GT3 cars in GT6 with TCS, ABS enabled, like the real one do, it would be a lot easier.
 
pyrates
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"It was a championship derived from the international [URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIA_GT1_World_Championship']FIA GT1 World Championship, but meant to provide competition for more amateur racers in closer to production cars."[/url]

Plus you or me could go and buy an LMS Ultra, Nissan GTR GT3, Z4 GT3, and many other GT3 spec cars straight from the manufacturer. Can't say the same about GTE or LMP cars.

The drivers are better than about 95% of the people here. They're still not professional racers.
 
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If someone would try GT3 cars in GT6 with TCS, ABS enabled, like the real one do, it would be a lot easier.
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NEVER!! I'm a pro if I don't use driver aids! Driving with everything off is the closest thing to real life. ALWAYS!! ;)

(for anyone who missed the sarcasm, that's me being sarcastic)
 
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I read somewhere on other thread that Chris Harris drove the R8 LMS with aids on, it was TCS on level 7 if not mistaken, so it may be easier to handle even in the rain. If someone would try GT3 cars in GT6 with TCS, ABS enabled, like the real one do, it would be a lot easier.
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All GT3 cars are equipped with a race specified and FIA approved traction control and ABS, even during racing. Teams even complained that BMW's TC was too good compared to others. Audis also regularly outperformed other cars during wet sessions.

Chris Harris ran his session with a setting of 7/10 on a wet circuit. What makes people believe that the factory drivers aren't using the adjustable aids? GT5's "OMG TC is a noob aid" mentality is most likely to blame. All drivers use the aids because it enables them to be on the throttle earlier...Heck even F1 had a period where TC was allowed.
 
Crispy
"It was a championship derived from the international FIA GT1 World Championship, but meant to provide competition for more amateur racers in closer to production cars."

Plus you or me could go and buy an LMS Ultra, Nissan GTR GT3, Z4 GT3, and many other GT3 spec cars straight from the manufacturer. Can't say the same about GTE or LMP cars.

The drivers are better than about 95% of the people here. They're still not professional racers.
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I am sorry but todays GT3 championships are filled with professional race drivers. Just because you can buy them doesn't mean it is just a class for amateurs.
 
pyrates
I am sorry but todays GT3 championships are filled with professional race drivers. Just because you can buy them doesn't mean it is just a class for amateurs.
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Just because there're professionals taking part doesn't mean it's not aimed at amateurs.

"The cars in GT3 are designed with emphasis on simplicity and ease of use for amateur or young drivers, in contrast to the faster and more fine-tuned GT1 and GT2 machines."- Group GT3 Wikipedia.
 
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