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How will you vote in the 2024 UK General Election?

  • Conservative Party

    Votes: 2 6.9%

  • Green Party

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Labour Party

    Votes: 14 48.3%

  • Liberal Democrats

    Votes: 2 6.9%

  • Other (Wales/Scotland/Northern Ireland)

    Votes: 1 3.4%

  • Other Independents

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Other Parties

    Votes: 2 6.9%

  • Spoiled Ballot

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Will Not/Cannot Vote

    Votes: 8 27.6%
  • Total voters
    29
  • Poll closed .
It all comes down to personal experiences I'd wager. It's unlikely most people here would have put Immigration as their number 1 concern but that's probably because they aren't working in a stretched-beyond-capacity hospital or primary school. Likewise security probably is a non-issue as it was for me in the last general election but when you're dealing with SO15 as part of student life there comes a point where your priorities shift. I also have strong views on education, but that's purely because I've seen what the softly-softly approach to pupils has led to in the form of prospects for state-educated children. Being told I can't put "Fail" on a paper I'm marking fills me with no confidence for the future of this Country.
 
70% UKIP
62% Conservative
53% Labour
44% Lib Dems
30% Greens

Which is pretty similar result to the last time I took a quiz like this, and was pretty much what I was expecting. :)
 
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One thing I will love to see is how the new immigration policies work out over the next 5 years. Labour are promising to ban immigrants from claiming benefits for 2 years and I believe the Tories are going for 4 years. Either way I bet you crime amongst immigrants increases.

UKIP want to stop a lot of them coming in at all. As much as I disagree with that policy it avoids the above issue.
 
The rhetoric that associates problems in Britain with immigration has become so prevalent that I, as a casual layman, find it difficult to know where to start when it comes to attempting to question that paradigm.

I do manage to confuse racists in pubs when I speak to them in a way that comes across as potentially sympathetic but then ask simple questions about their ideas. Normally, as soon as I ask about quantifiable facts they lose me completely & people start giggling.
 
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The rhetoric that associates problems in Britain with immigration has become so prevalent that I, as a casual layman, find it difficult to know where to start when it comes to attempting to question that paradigm.

I do manage to confuse racists in pubs when I speak to them in a way that comes across as potentially sympathetic but then ask simple questions about their ideas. Normally, as soon as I ask about quantifiable facts they lose me completely & people start giggling.
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Are you suggesting that current immigration doesn't cause any problems at all in Britain and that anyone who says otherwise is a racist?
 
Spurgy 777
Are you suggesting that current immigration doesn't cause any problems at all in Britain and that anyone who says otherwise is a racist?
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No.

I was saying that problems are very often attributed to immigration unnecessarily &, to mind at least, often untruthfully.

The matter of questioning racists in pubs was largely unrelated.

Edit: I can see that apologies may be in order if I lead anybody to infer as per your suggestion. I did not mean to imply that anybody who expresses their views regarding immigration can be so closely related to racism for doing so.
I made 2 separate comments within 1 post.
I welcome comments in return but I wasn't trying to do anything more than progress some discussion & hopefully learn along the way.
 
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No.

I was saying that problems are very often attributed to immigration unnecessarily &, to mind at least, often untruthfully.

The matter of questioning racists in pubs was largely unrelated.
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Casual racism, casual racism everywhere! I do hear some total poop said by people in my local too... normally from people that sponge off my taxes as much as immigrants do - shame we're not allowed to deport native scroungers.
 
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No.

I was saying that problems are very often attributed to immigration unnecessarily &, to mind at least, often untruthfully.

The matter of questioning racists in pubs was largely unrelated.

Edit: I can see that apologies may be in order if I lead anybody to infer as per your suggestion. I did not mean to imply that anybody who expresses their views regarding immigration can be so closely related to racism for doing so.
I made 2 separate comments within 1 post.
I welcome comments in return but I wasn't trying to do anything more than progress some discussion & hopefully learn along the way.
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No worries, I just checking :)
 
MatskiMonk
Casual racism, casual racism everywhere! I do hear some total poop said by people in my local too... normally from people that sponge off my taxes as much as immigrants do - shame we're not allowed to deport native scroungers.
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Quite right. Some immigrants are already British of course, there's been a glut of fat, reddened ex-pats returned from the euro-crisis zones. Tell that to the ranter in the pub and his eyes will cross.
 
Not British (durr) but I did the test in any case. Results may be slightly skewed because I'm not someone who fully understands all these economy questions. :p Not to mention I have no clue what that London-Birmingham line was, but I assume a neutral answer... neutralizes the question.

74% UKIP
49% Conservatives
43% LibDems
41% Labour
37% Green Party

Also, unlike certain users here who are in denial, I'm thoroughly not ashamed at all of any of my results. 👍
 
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Liquid
David Cameron is definitely Spencer;

Spencer is very arrogant and pompous and considers himself to be above doing menial duties such as shunting. None of the engines like him.
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Quite right, "shunt" is almost exactly the word that DavCam always makes me think of...

EDIT: The Debate was won by both the Conservatives and Labour. How do I know? They said so :D
 

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