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How will you vote in the 2024 UK General Election?

  • Conservative Party

    Votes: 2 6.9%

  • Green Party

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Labour Party

    Votes: 14 48.3%

  • Liberal Democrats

    Votes: 2 6.9%

  • Other (Wales/Scotland/Northern Ireland)

    Votes: 1 3.4%

  • Other Independents

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Other Parties

    Votes: 2 6.9%

  • Spoiled Ballot

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Will Not/Cannot Vote

    Votes: 8 27.6%
  • Total voters
    29
  • Poll closed .
www.bbc.co.uk

MPs allege bullying during chaotic fracking vote

One Tory MPs describes "a shambles" in Parliament, as angry scenes put Liz Truss under pressure.
www.bbc.co.uk

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Astonishing.

The government has collapsed.
 
Here's some excerpts from the brief interview with irate backbencher Charles Walker from the above BBC article.



It strikes me that he seems more concerned about his colleagues' ability to pay off their mortgages than what's happening to the national economy, just as Braverman resigned because she thought Truss wouldn't be tough enough on immigrants rather than any damage she did to the country as a whole.

Is it selfish of me to hope Liz stays but calls a snap general election?
 
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Why is the government of the UK such a disaster? (Knowing the myriad of reasons the US government is also a disaster, I don't imagine this is a simple answer.) But from outside looking in...it appears that the Conservative party is wholly incompetent yet....keeps getting elected...and the Labour party is simply unable to get a majority because...reasons?
 
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Why is the government of the UK such a disaster? (Knowing the myriad of reasons the US government is also a disaster, I don't imagine this is a simple answer.) But from outside looking in...it appears that the Conservative party is wholly incompetent yet....keeps getting elected...and the Labour party is simply unable to get a majority because...reasons?
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Putting together a detailed explanation for the absolute omnishambles that has unfolded over the past few years, months and weeks (in particular) requires an eloquence and weary experience that I just about lack (at the time of writing!).

To put it simply, one of the standout reasons is that in the space of the aforementioned weeks the latest PM + her cabinet, which was selected seemingly on their boot-licking ability, tried to play fast and loose with the economy, the rotten cherry being tax cuts (effectively) for the rich at a time when millions in the country were/are about to get shafted by ballooning energy prices. Oh, and they didn't provide any numbers for how they were going to go about "it" (the "mini-budget"), so the markets freaked out, borrowing/mortage costs jumped and Sterling plummeted to its lowest level against the $.

And lest I forget, this government and their rather delusional mandate was NOT elected/voted for in a GE, only by a very select minority of the public i.e party members. Boris Johnson acquired that mandate in Dec '19, who had (and still has) the affection of large swathes of the country due to the persona he had cultivated over the preceding years (and still has it, despite being turfed out this Summer as a result of Covid Lockdown... shenanigans, among other issues). It helped that he was running against Jeremy Corbyn but that's another kettle of fish entirely (and not something I want to delve into at 1AM :dopey:).

As of a few days ago, Labour currently have a 30+ point lead over the Conservatives (opinion polling, so take it with a grain of salt). If it comes to a General Election by the end of this year, the Tories have a snowflakes chance in hell of staying in government...
 
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Newsreader Krishnan Guru-Murthy has apologised on Twitter for an off-air remark he made following an interview with Tory MP Steve Baker in which he said "What a ****".

I eagerly anticipate his next interview with the Chancellor of the Exchequer.
 
Liz Truss has resigned as Prime Minister.

A new leadership election is to be completed next week. What a ******* joke.

Even at this late stage, they still don't get it.
 
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Second shortest Premiership in British history, behind only Arthur Wellesley's second tenure as an interim which lasted 23 days.
 
Can we give Larry the job? He's a foxhunter so clearly a Tory who should be accepted by their MPs and members.
 
Touring Mars
Liz Truss has resigned as Prime Minister.

A new leadership election is to be completed next week. What a ******* joke.

Even at this late stage, they still don't get it.
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They do get it, they just don't care. Tories are in power and that's where they stay. Suck it up, plebs.
 
Would I be correct in saying that, including Cameron in 2016, we are about to have a 5th Prime Minister in 6 years? Surely a record of some sort.
 
XJ40
Would I be correct in saying that, including Cameron in 2016, we are about to have a 5th Prime Minister in 6 years? Surely a record of some sort.
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Have to check the exact dates but there was a run of 5 in 5 years in the 1830s, from Wellington to Peel

Checked, it was more than I thought, they had 5 in under a year!
Grey, Lamb, Wellesley, Peel, Lamb again - all served between July 1834 and April 1835.

Come on Tories, you can do it, the record could be yours still !
 
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Fezzik
Have to check the exact dates but there was a run of 5 in 5 years in the 1830s, from Wellington to Peel
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They should allow for write-in votes. Maybe nominate Alan Davies or Stephen Fry.
 
UKMikey
How about the lettuce? It seems to have real staying power and is bound to be strong on green issues.
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Need to hear the other policies. If it's pro Brexit or supports a movement away from over-reliance on meat.
 
I've had enough of the Tories, they've proven the last few months (and years) that they cannot form a government so what next, we go through endless leadership contests until the end of 2024 just so the MP's can cling to their jobs for a little bit longer? We have never needed a general election as badly as we do right now.
 
If it took six weeks to dredge up Liz Truss, can't wait to see what they do in one week...
 
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round and round in circles we go, where we will stop nobody knows
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Throwing up in the corner with our collective heads spinning.

Wheel of misfortune.

 
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Oh my word, and I posted this last night as a joke...

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"Hello, my name is Sir Rob Nosnhoj, and I would like to apply for the role of leader of your Conservatory Party"
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GOTMAXPOWER
I've had enough of the Tories, they've proven the last few months (and years) that they cannot form a government
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The problem is Brexit. It was all fine until 2016 when Cameron idiotically followed through on a campaign pledge to hold the referendum. He didn't expect it to pass - nobody did - and it was only really an attempt to steer the ERG loons out of the party and stop Farage from pissing into the tent... but it did.

There were no party lines, so the upshot is a bunch of people who didn't want the thing to happen continually floating to the top of the party and then being tasked with making it happen, except it couldn't because it's always been fundamentally impossible to extract the UK from parts of the European Union but not all of it and to extract the UK from all of the European Union while respecting the citizenship of Irish-identifying population of Northern Ireland which is a fundamental component of the GFA. And the people who want it to happen don't end up in a position of making it happen because they know it can't and therefore don't want to.

It is the most literal of all poisoned chalices. Johnson only stayed in post because he kind of made it happen but in traditional Johnson style of lying about everything to everyone in his "oh, he's a scamp" manner, and making it up as he goes along. He arrogantly torpedoed himself by going all aristocrat during COVID.

How Truss even got to succeed him is baffling, given that she's clearly got no original thoughts in her head, and lies about being from pretty much everywhere thinking that she appeals to people from Scotland/Yorkshire by pretending she's from there. It can only have been a party-wide practical joke.
 

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