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How will you vote in the 2024 UK General Election?

  • Conservative Party

    Votes: 2 6.9%

  • Green Party

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Labour Party

    Votes: 14 48.3%

  • Liberal Democrats

    Votes: 2 6.9%

  • Other (Wales/Scotland/Northern Ireland)

    Votes: 1 3.4%

  • Other Independents

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Other Parties

    Votes: 2 6.9%

  • Spoiled Ballot

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Will Not/Cannot Vote

    Votes: 8 27.6%
  • Total voters
    29
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Dotini
So slavery is still alive and well, particularly in Britain? Astonishing.
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Absolutely. My instinct is that the greatest numbers of "bonded workers" will be Chinese (particularly in the west) and Eastern European. In fact, the migration of East Europeans to undertake summer arable work is (or at least was until recently) an annual tradition in East Yorkshire (finest land on Earth) and Lincolnshire (other side of the water, thank goodness).
 
Dotini
Question: How closely related are your views of women as slaves and paternalism? "Paternalism", whatever that really means, seems to an issue on US west coast college campuses and also within my own family. Cousin Karl really does believe women are inferior, and his daughter, a pre-med student at the University of Washington, is in a hotbed of anti-paternalism. How she resolves this is amusing.
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The girl I mentioned earlier that I was texting and who is on the path to a quasi-arranged marriage represents the problem with paternalism in some countries/communities. In this case it is a symptom of her upbringing in a paternalistic household, where all her decisions in the past seemingly go through the father. This is the case even now, and at 25 it sounds like I am talking to a 15 year old. It's frustrating because it is the father's inadequacy that is the root cause - hence my frustration at certain Asian families (this one is Hindu) and Islam as a religion. Such men can't stand to see women, even their own daughters show independent thought. Out of the 4 victims of sexual assault I know, and they are all different colours and religions it is only the Muslim one that forces his daughter to have dinner with her abuser. It is only that father that blames his daughter for being "evil" and cursing the evil spirits that caused her cousin to rape her over and over again since before the age of nine. And it is only that "man" that calls said daughter threatening to commit suicide as his life is so pointless at old age and how much of a disappointment she is.
 
KSaiyu
The girl I mentioned earlier that I was texting and who is on the path to a quasi-arranged marriage represents the problem with paternalism in some countries/communities. In this case it is a symptom of her upbringing in a paternalistic household, where all her decisions in the past seemingly go through the father. This is the case even now, and at 25 it sounds like I am talking to a 15 year old. It's frustrating because it is the father's inadequacy that is the root cause - hence my frustration at certain Asian families (this one is Hindu) and Islam as a religion. Such men can't stand to see women, even their own daughters show independent thought. Out of the 4 victims of sexual assault I know, and they are all different colours and religions it is only the Muslim one that forces his daughter to have dinner with her abuser. It is only that father that blames his daughter for being "evil" and cursing the evil spirits that caused her cousin to rape her over and over again since before the age of nine. And it is only that "man" that calls said daughter threatening to commit suicide as his life is so pointless at old age and how much of a disappointment she is.
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You are a much tougher man than I am to deal with such stressful circumstances. All I can suggest is to stay healthy and alert to your own needs as well as everyone else's. 👍
 
That's not to say it's isolated to Asian families or Islam specifically - I doubt your cousin is either. But when you recognise a trend you go deeper and try to fix it. Or ignore it and blame something else.

And it's always fun to mess about with. Flirting with Muslim girls and my ex's sister in front of her sad excuse of a fiancee relieves the stress and makes the women feel like women for a change.
 
So, idle thinking and a few online articles led me to this thought today:

The people of this country supposedly have pride in where they're from. People are quick to erect flags when national teams play sportsball, spent thousands to follow those teams to far-flung corners of the world, hum noisily to the national anthem even if they don't know the words, celebrate incumbent royalty with widespread media coverage and days off work, and in recent times have had a worrying tendency to vote for nationalist political parties.

Yet wherever you go, the sodding place is covered in litter?

Maybe it's just me, but pride in the place I live starts with not turning it into a dump. I quite like my flat; I wouldn't piss on the carpet just because I'm too lazy to make it to the toilet.

What is it about this weird national pride we have that makes people ignorant to the sort of things that could make a genuine improvement to peoples' lives?
 
homeforsummer
Yet wherever you go, the sodding place is covered in litter?
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I'm happy to say that here in the north-east (Kingston) the streets are very clean, not so much in the South. It's down to council priorities, I guess. And Southerners, obviously.
 
You bloody Saxons are so proud of conquering this Celtic paradise but you didn't stop the French and the Germans taking over!

Sort it out, lads.
 
Liquid
"Celtic" is as broad a term as Germanic, Turkic or Slavic, this should be better known. Various tribes and the one from my neck of the woods were the Tegeingl. I've done my research. ;)
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Nonetheless it's been long-held by the archeological "establishment" that the UK regions we regard as "Celtic" shared much more ancestry than they apparently do. It was an interesting read :D
 
The BNP, or British Nationalist Party are a bunch of racist eejits.

This is some of their more entertaining click bait, I have to say.
 
MatskiMonk
Bloody Immigrants, coming over here with their deoxyribonucleic acid double helixes.
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Wasn't it the Normans, inventors of the system of stone castles placed every few miles, who were responsible for the biggest and most durable changes?
 
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I can see the regret in his face. Still stings.

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Hope you don't mind we took your strategic use of flags to the next level.
 
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Keef
So a wannabe king basically.
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He has no choice, he's the current Queen's eldest child and has to have an act of Abdication act in order not to be Crowned upon her death, Abdication or incapacity. When we hear the words "The Queen is dead, long live the King" then the job's on.

Personally I believe in a republic rather than our current mad system, but at least Parliament has pretty much emasculated the monarchy in the last few hundred years.
 
TenEightyOne
When we hear the words "The Queen is dead, long live the King" then the job's on.
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Terry Pratchett (may Offler keep his soul) once postulated that the fastest thing in the universe was succession, with particles known as Kingons and Queenons instantaneously transferring the power over the throne to the next generation upon the death of the previous incumbent.

One of his wizards proposed torturing a small king in order to locate and modulate the signal.
 
Beeblebrox237
@Famine Everyone knows that nothing we can see travels faster than the speed of light, with the possible exception of bad news.
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Fixed for you.

Anyway Richard the 3rd is currently being re-interred in the wrong 🤬 county. Maybe someone should ask him about how fast Kingons and Queenons move.
 


Things are heating up on the streets of London between the "Kurds and Islamists". Video shot from the roof of a building overlooking a clash between supposed Kurds and Islamists. Language warning, but the kids commentary is pretty funny.
 
Great, two separate groups of foreigners have arrived in Britain so they could fight each other on the streets, presumably motivated by recent events in their homelands. :rolleyes:
 
Carbonox
Great, two separate groups of foreigners have arrived in Britain so they could fight each other on the streets, presumably motivated by recent events in their homelands. :rolleyes:
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"Disparate multiculturalists invited by design to civilized environs to discuss current issues.":p
 
Johnnypenso


Things are heating up on the streets of London between the "Kurds and Islamists". Video shot from the roof of a building overlooking a clash between supposed Kurds and Islamists. Language warning, but the kids commentary is pretty funny.
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What are you talking about, we get on fine in London. My area is just an isolated case remember?
 
KSaiyu
What are you talking about, we get on fine in London. My area is just an isolated case remember?
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There's a huge difference between somebody 5,000 miles away misunderstanding the size/spread/mix of London alone (let alone the rest of the country) and you doing it from within. You continue to yearn to draw personal connections to every incident in order to, it seems, bolster the legitimacy of your very narrow views in the eyes of the easily-impressed. That's just my opinion, naturally.
 
As an aside, why the hell can't people hold a camera phone like a camera? You'd capture so much more information if you held the phone in a landscape orientation, and you'd remove the thick black borders down the screen. Mind you, that would leave the only thick thing being the person holding the phone the wrong way....
 

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