Broke Fanatec P1 in Drifting Mission

[Geauxgreddy]

RIP P1. Can I get an F?

I pull heavily on the wheel with my left arm, seemingly more when correcting oversteer or during heavy braking.

Apparently trying to gold drifting was too much on the wheel and it just ripped apart. For the record, I switched to controller and knocked it out pretty quickly. So if you're struggling on the wheel, give the controller a geaux (and I suck on controller). Unfortunately I learned that a tad bit too late.

Also, I developed tennis elbow because of this (actually back during GTS) and I cant figure out how to stop this horrible habit. Anyone else have this problem?

I split my t150 in half before I got the Fanatec from pulling on it as well. So, I dont blame the wheel, it's pretty much all me gorilla driving the sim rig. Ordered the McLaren gt3 with the aluminum quick disco. Fingers crossed.

 

[Bullwinkle]

Try bringing the wheel closer to you. It seems counter-intuitive, but I did the same thing for a while and when I moved the wheel closer to me it allowed me to bend and relax my arms more and play with a lighter grip. Plus there's just less leverage when your arms aren't straight, encouraging the lighter touch. At least this worked for me.

And look up some stretches for the tennis (or golf, depending on the tendon involved) elbows. There's lots of good resources out there, and the only thing you can do is either not use your arms, or to stretch stretch stretch! I suffer from the same problems, and I lift weights and bicycle as well, all of which are murder on elbows. The stretching is the ONLY thing that works for me.

Good luck!

 

[BangsMcCoy]

There was a time when I was younger I preferred a wheel to controller, but I much prefer the DualSense to a wheel for GT7. I never played GTS and didn’t stay with GT6 for long as I sold my PS3 and games so GT7 is my first time playing GT since 2014/2015 (never played with a DualShock 4), but I really do prefer the DualSense as the haptic helps with consistency around the track lap after lap since I don’t use any assists like the markers or line. The trigger pressure and haptic feedback provide all the cues I need, especially in regards to braking.
I tried GT7 with a friends wheel but I just didn’t like it. Maybe I needed more time to relearn using a wheel but I felt totally lost without the feedback from the DualSense.

 

[O604]

Does the wheel make a difference?

A drifting wheel is often a deep dish style. Does this give more steering angle quicker?

 

[Bullwinkle]

There was a time when I was younger I preferred a wheel to controller, but I much prefer the DualSense to a wheel for GT7. I never played GTS and didn’t stay with GT6 for long as I sold my PS3 and games so GT7 is my first time playing GT since 2014/2015 (never played with a DualShock 4), but I really do prefer the DualSense as the haptic helps with consistency around the track lap after lap since I don’t use any assists like the markers or line. The trigger pressure and haptic feedback provide all the cues I need, especially in regards to braking.
I tried GT7 with a friends wheel but I just didn’t like it. Maybe I needed more time to relearn using a wheel but I felt totally lost without the feedback from the DualSense.

I started with the controller when I got a PS5 and GT7. It is a lot of fun, but I found that I was doing all kinds of crazy gyrations trying to get the car to move more, and I was getting so tense that I actually hurt my elbows just like the OP is describing! I switched to a wheel and it took some time to get used to, but I'll never go back. I'm able to stay more relaxed, and I'm able to respond to driving situations a little better (even though FFB is wonky). I went back to the controller to do a drift mission because that's the only way it can be done, and then realized that i just don't want to do any more drift or cone missions, so screw it!

[edit] I do miss the trigger pressure though. The first time I experienced it I nearly lost my mind! I jumped from a PS2 and had never done a racing game, so my mind was pretty much blown in all sorts of ways . . .

 

[FPV MIC]

RIP P1. Can I get an F?

I pull heavily on the wheel with my left arm, seemingly more when correcting oversteer or during heavy braking.

Apparently trying to gold drifting was too much on the wheel and it just ripped apart. For the record, I switched to controller and knocked it out pretty quickly. So if you're struggling on the wheel, give the controller a geaux (and I suck on controller). Unfortunately I learned that a tad bit too late.

Also, I developed tennis elbow because of this (actually back during GTS) and I cant figure out how to stop this horrible habit. Anyone else have this problem?

I split my t150 in half before I got the Fanatec from pulling on it as well. So, I dont blame the wheel, it's pretty much all me gorilla driving the sim rig. Ordered the McLaren gt3 with the aluminum quick disco. Fingers crossed.
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I have a friend with this exact same issue, right down to it occurring when correcting oversteer and during heavy braking. He's gone through more wheels and controllers from pulling and twisting on them in unnatural directions than I care to list while in the same time frame I've not had one failure of any kind. You can hear the controllers and wheels groaning and creaking with protest to his inputs.

Even games like golf are a full body experience for him and any sort of outside input from me (like, the timing of the swing is what's important and the reason I out drive you, not how hard you slam the stick against the stopper) falls upon deaf ears. I've unfortunately had to ban him from using my gear

The advice I gave him was to try to relax, but he just can't and is once again without a wheel.

Hopefully you'll find a solution, and I'll be following this thread with interest for any added tips I can give my friend (seating position didn't work for him unfortunately as my rig is set up with the wheel far closer than his and he still did it).

 

[D_Dragline]

RIP P1. Can I get an F?

I pull heavily on the wheel with my left arm, seemingly more when correcting oversteer or during heavy braking.

Apparently trying to gold drifting was too much on the wheel and it just ripped apart. For the record, I switched to controller and knocked it out pretty quickly. So if you're struggling on the wheel, give the controller a geaux (and I suck on controller). Unfortunately I learned that a tad bit too late.

Also, I developed tennis elbow because of this (actually back during GTS) and I cant figure out how to stop this horrible habit. Anyone else have this problem?

I split my t150 in half before I got the Fanatec from pulling on it as well. So, I dont blame the wheel, it's pretty much all me gorilla driving the sim rig. Ordered the McLaren gt3 with the aluminum quick disco. Fingers crossed.
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Buy some gloves and a squash ball. Cut the squash ball in half and slide half of it into each glove in the heel of your palm near the base of your thumb. This will force your palm off the rim and you’ll be forced to use a lighter grip.

 

[Geauxgreddy]

Buy some gloves and a squash ball. Cut the squash ball in half and slide half of it into each glove in the heel of your palm near the base of your thumb. This will force your palm off the rim and you’ll be forced to use a lighter grip.

Im going to give it a try. And moving the wheel further towards me. Heck, both at once. Thanks for the tip.

 

[Bullwinkle]

Im going to give it a try. And moving the wheel further towards me. Heck, both at once. Thanks for the tip.

Also, don’t wrap your entire hand around the wheel. I learned to use the last joint of my fingers and thumb so most of my hand isn’t even in contact with the wheel (until things get messy and I need more control).

Repeat the mantra to yourself: slow is smooth (light), and smooth (light) is fast. The lighter your grip, the smoother and more in control you’ll be. At least in my experience…

 

[half_sourly]

Buy some gloves and a squash ball. Cut the squash ball in half and slide half of it into each glove in the heel of your palm near the base of your thumb. This will force your palm off the rim and you’ll be forced to use a lighter grip.

Reminds me of Adam Gilchrist's training to soften his grip and make his top hand more dominant:

 

[D_Dragline]

Reminds me of Adam Gilchrist's training to soften his grip and make his top hand more dominant:

Exactly. I can’t take the credit for the idea, but I can attest that it works for loosening grip in lots of situations.

 

[Geauxgreddy]

UPDATE: I don't normally take medical advice from GT Planet. However, in this rare instance, I did. And well, my tennis elbow is nearly GONE!!

I moved the wheel up and towards me as far as my sim rig would allow. Its not crazy close, but definitely a good 6-8 inches closer. I used a couple of those little beach paddle balls (since I didn't have a squash ball) to loosen my death grip. I found that I just can't generate the leverage and the ball helped me to consciously id when/where/what situation I get too tense. So thank you @Bullwinkle and @D_Dragline !!!

Now, if I can learn to stop murering tires...