Calling all the aliens in GTP

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So I was playing in an JP online room in Suzuka earlier

523hp max
1100kg min
SuperGT cars
Tyres/fuel consumption off
grip level low
All aids allowed

There was this couple of guys doing 1:46-1:47 constantly when I barely managed to break into the 1:49s. I'd like to think I'm not half bad as a driver but 2-3s difference per lap is quite a shock to me tbh.

Here's your challenge then, try to replicate those times and post here with proof (ideally with car and setups or even better with video :P)
 
3 seconds on Suzuka is not a big deal because you have at least 6 portions of track where experienced driver can gain more than 0.500 difference per portion and gain that 3 seconds difference with no probs.

One of my "alien" friends produces a 4 seconds per lap gap on stock F430 on Sport Hard tyres on Suzuka with no problems.

I would be afraid what he can do to us with JGTS car on RH tyres.
 
amar212
3 seconds on Suzuka is not a big deal because you have at least 6 portions of track where experienced driver can gain more than 0.500 difference per portion and gain that 3 seconds difference with no probs.
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Especially with grip reduction low and tyre wear off.
 
amar212
3 seconds on Suzuka is not a big deal because you have at least 6 portions of track where experienced driver can gain more than 0.500 difference per portion and gain that 3 seconds difference with no probs.

One of my "alien" friends produces a 4 seconds per lap gap on stock F430 on Sport Hard tyres on Suzuka with no problems.

I would be afraid what he can do to us with JGTS car on RH tyres.
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Yes but it's done with RS so with maximum grip available there's not supposed to be so much room to gain anymore. With SH the room for improvement is much bigger.

As I said, I'm not half bad a driver and I'm already pushing very hard. To put things into perspective, the other guys were lapping 1:53-1:54 and they're average I'd say. I was winning comfortably until the 2 guys came and smashed the field
 
Lidyana
Yes but it's done with RS so with maximum grip available there's not supposed to be so much room to gain anymore. With SH the room for improvement is much bigger.

As I said, I'm not half bad a driver and I'm already pushing very hard. To put things into perspective, the other guys were lapping 1:53-1:54 and they're average I'd say. I was winning comfortably until the 2 guys came and smashed the field
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They used skid recovery force and you didn't?
 
I recall someone posting a video of tony1311 doing a 1'50 or thereabout online, but I think it was with much less HP (maybe stock?). So it should be doable by a good driver, don't think I could get close to '46 myself.
 
No depletion all aids on , RS SRF, it dont count.

What can they do with No Aids ABS=0 , depletion track edge at real and RH... thats a PURE GT500...

If they were driving close to each other w strong Slip that could make them impossibly faster on straights.
 
yanaran
I recall someone posting a video of tony1311 doing a 1'50 or thereabout online, but I think it was with much less HP (maybe stock?). So it should be doable by a good driver, don't think I could get close to '46 myself.
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I had a look at that lap, and went to their forum

http://www.gtforum.eu/showthread.php?91-***PSN-Offline-Hotlap-League***&highlight=gt500+suzuka

It was done offline, with aids off, wear off with about the same hp/pp. I don't think SRF is worth 3-4s at suzuka

XEPEGTP
No depletion all aids on , RS SRF, it dont count.

What can they do with No Aids ABS=0 , depletion track edge at real and RH... thats a PURE GT500...

If they were driving close to each other w strong Slip that could make them impossibly faster on straights.
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Not slipstreaming off each other. I'm talking about another set of restrictions here. It won't really matter if everyone uses the same restrictions
 
XEPEGTP
No depletion all aids on , RS SRF, it dont count.

What can they do with No Aids ABS=0 , depletion track edge at real and RH... thats a PURE GT500...

If they were driving close to each other w strong Slip that could make them impossibly faster on straights.
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Are some people really this pigheaded as to say that unless things are uber realistic in the game, bashing driving aids also, it doesn't count?
 
Its like a cheat, flip everything on all you do is steer , what little of it the assists arent doing.

Thats not very "Alien".
 
yanaran
I recall someone posting a video of tony1311 doing a 1'50 or thereabout online, but I think it was with much less HP (maybe stock?). So it should be doable by a good driver, don't think I could get close to '46 myself.
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Yes me and Tony were racing together then, his PB is actually 49.6 I think, mine is 50.2. This is done with no skid recovery force and a 522 hp (Engine stage 3) Lexus SC430.

With this settings imo, there is no way a 46 is possible with a Super GT car.
 
nissman
Yes me and Tony were racing together then, his PB is actually 49.6 I think, mine is 50.2. This is done with no skid recovery force and a 522 hp (Engine stage 3) Lexus SC430.

With this settings imo, there is no way a 46 is possible with a Super GT car.
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Which settings? If you're talking about the room settings, they did 1:46 with those settings for real. Infact the fastest was 1:46.5xx, done during free runs i.e no slipstreaming. Screenie from one race here. Car they used was premium yellowhat and xanavi nismo
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Can you try doing it again if you're free, but this time with SRF on? Would appreciate it :)
 
I meant that with SRF on, you cant do a '46.
And sorry mate, I'm not driving with SRF on. For me its pretty laim, you just turn the wheel and step on the gas. I thought that only begginers use it and not drivers that are obviously fast around Suzuka.
Maybe you should try with SRF on and try to get get a 49'6 that Tony did.
 
XEPEGTP
Its like a cheat, flip everything on all you do is steer , what little of it the assists arent doing.

Thats not very "Alien".
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XEPEGTP
No depletion all aids on , RS SRF, it dont count.

What can they do with No Aids ABS=0 , depletion track edge at real and RH... thats a PURE GT500...

If they were driving close to each other w strong Slip that could make them impossibly faster on straights.
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nissman
I meant that with SRF on, you cant do a '46.
And sorry mate, I'm not driving with SRF on. For me its pretty laim, you just turn the wheel and step on the gas. I thought that only begginers use it and not drivers that are obviously fast around Suzuka.
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I'm not sure I like where this is going. I didn't realize this was a "Aids vs No Aids" thread. That debate has been had many, many, many times, usually degenerating into an ego-filled screaming match, with each convinced they're right. For the record, using aids doesn't make you any more/less skilled/capable/knowledgeable/better/worse than those that don't. It's only different, there is no right or wrong. Anyone telling you different has become so close-minded that they cannot be persuaded. I have yet to meet a racecar driver that turned down something that would make them faster or help them win.

As for the time, I'm interested in knowing if others are attempting to beat this in offline practice mode. The difference between online and offline has been well documented here before. To compare the two seems unfair.

Also, the difference between a race pace, and a qualifying/Time Trial pace can be immense. In the race, as mentioned before, slip streaming can effect lap times, regardless if it's set to high or low. Two cars shouldn't have a problem reaching the target time, provided both drivers are clean and competitive enough to push each other without driving the other past his/her limits. Kinda like magnets.
 
nissman
I meant that with SRF on, you cant do a '46.
And sorry mate, I'm not driving with SRF on. For me its pretty laim, you just turn the wheel and step on the gas. I thought that only begginers use it and not drivers that are obviously fast around Suzuka.
Maybe you should try with SRF on and try to get get a 49'6 that Tony did.
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I thought the aim of this thread was pretty clear..I want to see if there's anyone who can even post 1:46 with the same restrictions as them to see if it's their setup or skill because it's been done. Apparently no one can and we'll never know which one is it that makes them fast.

Even if they turn off their SRF, SRF makes you about 1-1.5s faster in suzuka (in my case) and they will still be posting times in the 1:48s, still faster than the 1:49.6
 
Lidyana
I thought the aim of this thread was pretty clear..I want to see if there's anyone who can even post 1:46 with the same restrictions as them to see if it's their setup or skill because it's been done. Apparently no one can and we'll never know which one is it that makes them fast.

Even if they turn off their SRF, SRF makes you about 1-1.5s faster in suzuka (in my case) and they will still be posting times in the 1:48s, still faster than the 1:49.6
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You can't compare offline to online. Also, with competition, comes motivation. The motivation lacking in Time Trials may be found in the race. In my opinion, these times aren't anything impossible.
 
McClarenDesign
You can't compare offline to online. Also, with competition, comes motivation. The motivation lacking in Time Trials may be found in the race. In my opinion, these times aren't anything impossible.
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idk..I don't think it makes that much difference if it's online or offline. In TTs it's just you against yourself with unlimited time available but online you have to watch out for other cars as well. And as mentioned, the fastest time was set on free runs, so no slipstreaming.

I have no doubt that it's possible. I just hope someone who's able to do that will post here (and hopefully the setup as well). Then I can try the setup and see how far away I am from the real top guys.
 
Lidyana
I have no doubt that it's possible. I just hope someone who's able to do that will post here (and hopefully the setup as well). Then I can try the setup and see how far away I am from the real top guys.
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Ah, the Tuning forum should have something. I believe there's an all-encompasing chart of every tune posted somewhere, but I'm not sure if it's real or a myth. Regardless, if it's a tune you're looking for, that would be the place to look.
 
Online (in a room or lounge) and offline (in a TT or arcade mode) have HUGE differences in lap times (grip levels, physics... all different).

If you have a replay of the race then see if they are using better lines or do they look like they are just using faster cars.
 
Hi guys,
I cannot really tell you how much is possible with all aids. But with tire model on an no aids except abs and 375kW the time is around 1.53.xx at our latest quali. I have already seen someone who made a 1.51.xx with this setup.
So maybe 2-3 seconds down should be possible with all aids and no tire model.
Hope this helps you a little. The setups are often very different between the good drivers. It depends on the driving style which setup is better for someone.
Regards Flow
 

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