Camber Angle's

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;) K, i usualy use high camber angles for drift, and standard for racing. On my supra i have 2.5-front 1.5-rear
if i put them higher, i get stability, and not sure which option i should use for a nice drift. Any help will be appreciated :)
 
well, if the lower settings give you stability, wouldn't a higher setting be the best idea?
 
sheesh!!!

I dont use much more that 2.0 on the front and 1.7 on the rear :/

tire wear come into the fray if camber angle is too high.
 
Originally posted by ving
sheesh!!!

I dont use much more that 2.0 on the front and 1.7 on the rear :/

tire wear come into the fray if camber angle is too high.

...He's asking for settings on drifting...I don't think that tyre wear is a major concern...
 
The purpose of adjusting the camber is to get the car to corner better, if you increase the camber too much the car will corner better, the suspension load will push the tire flat while cornering, but in a straight line the car will pull to one side or the other because of the angle.
 
Actually, it shouldn't pull even with high camber angles. What it will do is affect braking (as someone said above) and acceleration traction. Moderate camber angles should actually help tire wear, to a point.

I almost always dial in about 3.0 front / 1.0 rear, and balance from there. If it oversteers, I increase rear camber to 1.5 or so, if it understeers, I decrease it to 0.5.

I don't drift, but if I did, I'd put about 2.5 up front, and zero in the rear.
 
Is camber the most important thing to adjust when you are trying to get better cornering? Because when I tried tuning that in the beggining but I didn't really notice a change.
 
Originally posted by Fresh
Is camber the most important thing to adjust when you are trying to get better cornering? Because when I tried tuning that in the beggining but I didn't really notice a change.

look at free riders post.

it helps the tire sit flater on the road when cornering. i guess it doesnt help much when parking your car :p
 
Originally posted by Fresh
Is camber the most important thing to adjust when you are trying to get better cornering? Because when I tried tuning that in the beggining but I didn't really notice a change.
Fresh: Camber is a basic move; something you should always do if it is adjustable.

Think of a picture you've seen of a car cornering at speed. The outside front tire is tucked under a bit, because it is taking the most load: deacceleration and turning the whole car, more or less by itself. The outside rear wheel looks the same but not as badly because all it is doing is following the front wheel.

By adding camber (technically, negative camber - they screwed it up in the game), you are tipping the top of the tire in, so that when it is the outside wheel in a turn, it is standing more or less straight up and down. As said above, this maximizes the contact patch of the tire and keeps the load on the tread rather than rolling onto the side wall.

The downside is that when you are travelling straight, the load is biased towards the inside of the tire, which costs you some ultimate traction for braking (on the front tires) and acceleration (on the drive tires, whichever end they are). Typically 3.0-3.5 degrees of camber are what racers run (more or less if the rules allow) in front. This is a setting with a good compromise between improved cornering and reduced braking. Rear values vary, but I would start at 1.0, then adjust that up or down half a degree to balance the car for neutral handling between oversteer and understeer.

This will improve your handling but is not a magic solution by itself. If I'm modding a car, I always buy the full-race suspension and lower the ride height to about 3/4 of the way down, and stiffen the springs correspondingly, and also stiffen the damper rebound while softening the bound. The spring changes lower the center of gravity and reduce body roll, and softening the damper bound allows the car to absorb bumps more easily, while stiffening the rebound helps with weight transfer and also makes sure the tires get back into contact with the road quickly after bumps.
 
To Fresh, the best thing to do is to try different settings because everyones driving styles are different, different cars need different set-ups. Find something that works and go from there. The more you tune the more you learn. Ask anyone. Check out Neon Duke, he knows.
 
Camber really is an art, because we have no idea of the tyre temps, or wear across the tyre.

I guess you have to just fiddle till it feels right, because there is no science behind it without that important information.
 
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