Can I run it?

xlDevontelx

xlDevontelx

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Alright, I'm no computer wiz, but here's what we're working with.

  • AMD FD6300WMHKBOX FX-6300 6-Core processing unit. (3.9/4.1GHz)
  • EVGA GeForce GT 630 1024MB GDDR5 Graphics card.
  • Corsair Vengeance DIMM, 240-pin16GB of RAM.
  • Corsair CX600 Power supply.
  • Windows 8 operating system.
Decent gaming Desktop specs?
 
Well it would help if we knew what type of games you are wanting to play. You know like modern FPS games or games from the past that you enjoy
 
Minecraft with the Shaders mod and a few texture packs is what I'll be playing most, then a little bit of Battlefield, and games like that. Games that require heavy graphics really
 
xlDevontelx
Alright, I'm no computer wiz, but here's what we're working with.

  • AMD FD6300WMHKBOX FX-6300 6-Core processing unit. (3.9/4.1GHz)
  • EVGA GeForce GT 630 1024MB GDDR5 Graphics card.
  • Corsair Vengeance DIMM, 240-pin16GB of RAM.
  • Corsair CX600 Power supply.
  • Windows 8 operating system.
Decent gaming Desktop specs?
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Your processor is probably fine (I know nothing about AMD but a quick Google suggests it was alright in 2012 and things haven't moved on much since then) for BF4 but Minecraft is, last time I checked, very hard on your CPU. Your graphics card is not so fine for BF4, it meets the minimum requirements (I think) but it will not be a particularly good experience. You'll want at least an Nvidia GTX card for gaming uses, the GT cards are not great. Again, I know nothing about AMD.

What's your budget?
 
neema_t
Your processor is probably fine (I know nothing about AMD but a quick Google suggests it was alright in 2012 and things haven't moved on much since then) for BF4 but Minecraft is, last time I checked, very hard on your CPU. Your graphics card is not so fine for BF4, it meets the minimum requirements (I think) but it will not be a particularly good experience. You'll want at least an Nvidia GTX card for gaming uses, the GT cards are not great. Again, I know nothing about AMD.

What's your budget?
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With 6 processing units, my processor BETTER be fine! xD

Budget just for a graphics card is around 100. I think that graphics card is fine honestly, not looking to change it.

Edit: EVGA graphics card, not AMD
 
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GT 630 is a rebadged GT 440. You can check out the benchmarks for 440.

It's not really a good GPU for gaming but you can play at around 720p on low detail. Even very cheap cards are double the performance of the GT 630.

You can even get a 560ti used for like $50-70 and get 4-5 times the performance of the GT 630.

Rest of your system is pretty good. Decent enough CPU and large enough power supply for an upgrade.
 
xlDevontelx
With 6 processing units, my processor BETTER be fine! xD
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The number of cores nor the clock speed of the CPU mean anything, compare the benchmarks of the i7 4770K and the FX-9590 for evidence of this; the slower of the two also has fewer physical cores (but does have hyperthreading), and yet scores higher in benchmarks... But good enough is all you need from your CPU while gaming (you don't often gain much from a better CPU after you clear any CPU-bound bottlenecks) and Minecraft is exceptionally CPU-heavy so you may run into bottlenecks there even if you were to upgrade your graphics card, but maybe not, it's been a long time since I looked into this.

xlDevontelx
Budget just for a graphics card is around 100. I think that graphics card is fine honestly, not looking to change it.
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Well, I guess 'decent' in this context is subjective, but it's just not a gaming card. Can it run BF3/4 and/or Minecraft? Probably. Decent desktop gaming specs? No. Decent, from my point of view, would at least be a GTX card. I don't know the American prices but I'm pretty sure you could pick up a far better card for $100.

xlDevontelx
Edit: EVGA graphics card, not AMD
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AMD/Nvidia design the GPUs and board layouts while EVGA, MSI, Gigabyte, ASUS, etc. manufacture the cards. Their input is limited to the design of the cooler, selection of the components, factory overclocking, amount of VRAM and other stuff but the GPU itself is property of AMD or Nvidia, hence it's an AMD card - the performance of an MSI-manufactured GT 630 with the same amount of RAM and same clocks would be about the same.
 
What sort of things are we looking from this JackFrags video, its a setup I may look into making
 
I found a benchmark for the gpu that it avg 31 fps in crysis 3 at the lowest settings with no AA but dropped in the low 20s some. you should be able to run most games at the min settings with it at 720p.
 
What is it that causes the 'bottle necking' at the CPU?

I'm new to PC gaming and have just ordered my first gaming PC...is there anything you can do to avoid bottle necking or is it simply down to your CPU?

Thanks in advance!
 
PIP_36
What is it that causes the 'bottle necking' at the CPU?
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Basically, the graphics card is a processor (the GPU, all the supporting components and RAM) that processes mostly graphics and other things the CPU can't process quite so well, but it needs instructions to be passed to it quickly enough to work at it's full speed. A slow CPU will hold up the GPU by not passing instructions quickly enough. That's how I understand it, anyway.

A bottleneck in this context is when a component is holding up the other components by not performing as well as the rest, restricting the performance of the computer as a whole. It's basically a term used to describe which component is most in need of an upgrade.
 
Thanks for the quick reply neema, appreciate the explanation.

So to prevent this from happening we just need to make sure that all the components are 'on par' with each other as best as we can?
 
PIP_36
Thanks for the quick reply neema, appreciate the explanation.

So to prevent this from happening we just need to make sure that all the components are 'on par' with each other as best as we can?
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Effectively, yes.

If you're restricted by a particular part too much you've arguably spent too much money on other bits. For example having 32gb of RAM an i7 4770k but only a HD5450 GPU you'll never run a game like BF4 on high settings despite a great CPU and more than enough RAM. It effectively turns your CPU and RAM into paperweights compared to what they could do, you could have had a better GPU and worse CPU etc. and ultimately ran the game better for the same price.

Sometimes however it makes sense to bottleneck, for example if you plan to play older games first (like a first time PC gamer will inevitably do via Steam sales) you can afford to get a sub-par GPU knowing you can upgrade later with relative ease and you have spare performance the rest of your system. This works great if you have set yourself a bar to reach later as parts only get cheaper over time (as long as you don't keep moving your bar too much!).

Personally I prefer to let my GPU be the compromise as I believe it's the piece which falls behind first regardless due to the way games are being developed. If you're restricted by CPU now I feel like this is a more painful task to undertake so I spent good money on my CPU knowing I may have to compromise GPU and upgrade later. In the end I had a bigger budget so I got exactly what I wanted at the time and haven't changed the build since.
 
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I think the GPU is probably one of the worst ones you can buy at the moment, the 64bit GDDR3 Kepler version of the card is twice as powerful so worth getting that one instead if you are going for the low entry level GPU. Newer name is GT 730 64bit and should be able to get less than $60, at least you will get a considerable performance boost. Also I think for your $100 budget, the R7 260X with two games offer is quite good.
 
Dragonistic
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Thanks for explaining mate, I've been bitten by the PC bug hard and have configured & ordered my first proper gaming PC today!

Going from console to PC sim racing feels much more like a proper hobby, I'm loving learning about how to configure, upgrade and install PC parts that are in effect the 'engine' to my sim racing rig.

Will be looking at button boxes and displays next!

I'm pretty sure that the parts I've configured for my PC will work well with each other but the knowledge will always come in handy for the future when I decide to upgrade.

  • InWin GT1 Black gaming case
  • AMD FX-8350 Eight core CPU
  • Asus M5A99X Evo R2
  • 8GB Kingston Hyper-X Beast Dual-DDR3
  • 3GB AMD R9 280X
  • 1TB WD Caviar Black, Sata 6 GB/S, 64MB cache

Thanks again for the help and explanations guys.
 
Sorry forgot about this thread. I have an FX 6300 like you and it can handle minecraft pretty well. Was playing the yogscast pack that has over 200 mods and it plays just fine. I can play bf3 on ultra but thats probably more GPU focused game
 

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