Can someone tell me what to do

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milefile
This kind of intolerance is the same as any kind of intolerance.

Actually, it's worse, because it pretends to be the opposite.
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What ARE you talking about?

How is saying that his friend is still his friend - the same guy he was last week as he will be next week - and to just get on with it being intolerant?
 
Does the fact that he's gay change him into another person? He's been your friend for 14 years.........he isn't going to hit on you..............he's just a friend!
you should compliment him.....being so open to you about it......it propably even makes his live a little easier. don't worry 👍
 
What ARE you talking about?

How is saying that his friend is still his friend - the same guy he was last week as he will be next week - and to just get on with it being intolerant?
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By accusing him of whining and taking a confrontational tone because he feels uncomfortable with the fact that his best friend, whom he has known as one way for the duration of their friendship, is now suddenly different, in essence, not the same person. Now he has not only come to terms with with his best friends new identity, but in order to remain his best friend, he'll also have to accomodate and/or participate in so-called "gay culture". I think it's completely natural to have some anxiety over this, especially when it's forced on you and you probably have no exposure to or experience with gay people or gay culture aside from the charming representations of it on TV. It is not only a big change for his gay friend but for him, too. And he's the one here at GTP asking for advice. Frankly, I couldn't give a crap less about the gay friend.
 
Dirkiyo
Does the fact that he's gay change him into another person?
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Of course it does. What is so hard to understand about that? What is so bad about it?
He's been your friend for 14 years.........he isn't going to hit on you.............
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How do you know?
you should compliment him.....
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I agree. Then who will compliment Bryce for being such a good friend? Nobody here. Only admonitions here.
 
milefile
...Now he has not only come to terms with with his best friends new identity, but in order to remain his best friend, he'll also have to accomodate and/or participate in so-called "gay culture". I think it's completely natural to have some anxiety over this, especially when it's forced on you and you probably have no exposure to or experience with gay people or gay culture aside from the charming representations of it on TV......
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So (and I am just tring to clarify here, milefile), what you are saying is that, by expecting to be "accepted" by Bryce, this gay freind is being intolerant of Bryce's "straigntness"?
 
milefile
Of course it does. What is so hard to understand about that? What is so bad about it?

How do you know?

I agree. Then who will compliment Bryce for being such a good friend? Nobody here. Only admonitions here.
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pretty intollerent, don't you think.....?
well in fact.......you're kissing somebody's ### right now, by saying this. please have some respect, even for moslims and homosexuals.....:grumpy:
 
skip0110
So (and I am just tring to clarify here, milefile)
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You failed.
what you are saying is that, by expecting to be "accepted" by Bryce, this gay freind is being intolerant of Bryce's "straigntness"?
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No. That's not what I said or what I meant. I actually said I didn't care one bit about his gay friend.

But as long as you brought it up, who just "expects" things from friends? If you "expect", and get what you hoped for, how can you then be grateful?
 
milefile
By accusing him of whining and taking a confrontational tone because he feels uncomfortable with the fact that his best friend, whom he has known as one way for the duration of their friendship, is now suddenly different, in essence, not the same person. Now he has not only come to terms with with his best friends new identity, but in order to remain his best friend, he'll also have to accomodate and/or participate in so-called "gay culture". I think it's completely natural to have some anxiety over this, especially when it's forced on you and you probably have no exposure to or experience with gay people or gay culture aside from the charming representations of it on TV. It is not only a big change for his gay friend but for him, too. And he's the one here at GTP asking for advice. Frankly, I couldn't give a crap less about the gay friend.
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Perception.

The friend is not a different person in any way at all. He is gay. He was gay yesterday. He was gay the day before that. He's probably known that he's gay for a very, very long time. It doesn't "change him into another person" at all - since he's been that person for quite some time.

In all that time, Bryce302 has been treating his gay friend a certain way. Nothing about the man has changed at all, only that now Bryce302 is aware of the fact he's gay. Nothing needs to change at all. In fact nothing HAS changed apart from Bryce302's perception.

Imagine if he'd suddenly revealed one day that he likes to play chess. Would you be worried that now you'll have to accommodate, or participate in, chess culture, something he's probably had no exposure to or experience of, apart from charming representations on TV, or that you'd have it "forced on" you? I mean come on - his friend being gay is forcing gay culture on him? What tripe.


If one of my friends suddenly told me he or she was gay I'd have no trouble with it whatsoever. I certainly wouldn't freeze up and not know what to say to the guy/girl until I'd asked some people on a computer game website. I mean it's NICE that he's asked for advice, but how does his friend feel about his reaction to the announcement he's made - something which in all likelihood wasn't easy for him? I'd ask about how long they've known they were gay, what kind of guy/girl they like, who in the public eye they find attractive - after all, as a friend shouldn't I be able to understand and take an interest in important issues in their life?


And if he DOES hit on him, so what? So, you're attractive to someone else. Isn't that good?
 
Famine
Perception.

nothing HAS changed apart from Bryce302's perception.
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I disagree with the preception that this is unimportant.

And if he DOES hit on him, so what? So, you're attractive to someone else. Isn't that good?
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Not necessarily. Like anything else, it depends.
 
milefile
I disagree with the preception that this is unimportant.
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And what led you to the conception of this idea? I certainly haven't said, nor implied, this.

To some people apparently it IS important. In fact, perception is how we build up our view of the world around us. But the simple fact is, he's been gay for longer than Bryce302 has known about it - short of a St. Paul on the Road to Damascus moment - and in all that time of ignorance Bryce302 has been quite happy to speak to him. Now he's been enlightened, suddenly he doesn't know what to say. But it's still the same man.
 
Ok, just remember, he's gay, not a leper. And just because he's gay doesn't mean he fancies you. I'm sure he'll appreciate all the help and support you can offer him.
Good luck dude.
 
Famine
And what led you to the conception of this idea? I certainly haven't said, nor implied, this.
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Fine. I thought you implied it in your tone. If I was wrong, so be it.

To some people apparently it IS important. In fact, perception is how we build up our view of the world around us. But the simple fact is, he's been gay for longer than Bryce302 has known about it - short of a St. Paul on the Road to Damascus moment - and in all that time of ignorance Bryce302 has been quite happy to speak to him. Now he's been enlightened, suddenly he doesn't know what to say. But it's still the same man.
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Bryce wasn't ignorant. If anybody was, it was his friend.
 
Ignorance = state of unknowingness. Bryce didn't know his friend was gay, ergo he was ignorant of this fact. NOT that he's stupid for not knowing, simply that he didn't know.
 
Well it just (seemed seemed dont forget seemed) to happen I mean a year ago he was bangin his girlfriend. It was kinda wierd to hear him say hes gay.
 
Bryce302
I did start to suspect cause when you see your best friend without a girl for six months you think something ups.
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Wow, that's all it takes for you to start thinking your friend is gay? That's pretty harsh, man. what kind of friend are you? Talking to him would have been the first correct step in ascertaining what was going on...for all you know he could have simply been going through a "down period" where girls weren't really entering his picture at the moment.
 
Anderton
Wow, that's all it takes for you to start thinking your friend is gay? That's pretty harsh, man. what kind of friend are you? Talking to him would have been the first correct step in ascertaining what was going on...for all you know he could have simply been going through a "down period" where girls weren't really entering his picture at the moment.
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Absolutely. Exactly. Man does he have a point. 6 months?

Christ, maybe he just ain't so popular with the ladies. I mean, there are other ways to suspect someone is gay. Jesus. :crazy:
 
I haven't had a girlfriend since year 7, so does that make me gay?:odd:
 
No it doesn't make you gay, Danny.

Really, I know plenty of people like Danny here, or who haven't had girlfriends their whole life, etc, and I'm 120% sure they aren't gay. I mean yeah, you're going through a little coming to terms with your best friend being gay, but he's still a human being. You're still his best friend (I would hope). What's the problem? I mean, even if you are right with your assumption that he's gay, it's not fair to base it off "something's up because he hasn't been with a girl for 6 months". That can be quite offensive to other GTPers on here.

Get your head right, mate. He's a human being, and should still be your best friend.
 
PublicSecrecy
So everyone's MSN is fine now? :lol:
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Where the hell did that come from pal?
This is quite the serious thread, and you make a joke in it, this really makes me doubt your maturity. 👎
Seriously, stop making these useless posts that have nothing to do with the subject.
 
PublicSecrecy
So everyone's MSN is fine now?
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There is a thread on this, about MSN being down. Go there. Be careful with frequently posting like this, people may report you and you could possibly get 1 of your 3 warnings, before being banned.

Just a tip. ;)
 
Hey Bryce, how about an update? It's obvious everyone here was interested in your predicament, and it seems logical we'd want to hear what's happening with the situation!
 

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