Canadian Car illegal... in canada...

[RedOak]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M88k6Ipp3c

Interesting

 

[buickgnx88]

Being able to plug it in to a normal outlet? Damn I want one! Course the styling isn't all that great, but other then that it would be awesome to not have to worry about paying for gas!

 

[RedOak]

hell yeah... i think its one of the cool things about this car... you can literaly plug it anywhere... sneak the cable in a starbucks, pretending its for your laptop... hmmm

 

[Philly]

Only problems that no electric car can solve:

You have to pay for the electricity somehow.

The electricity comes from dirty sources.

 

[V1P3R]

^But the bottom line is electricity isn't going anywhere anytime soon no matter how it's produced. It's better than using fuel period.

If it can go at least 300mi. Actually a charge to and from. Eh, sign me up anyway. xD
I do have to admit I'll have to get used to there being no engine sounds. One reasons I hate toyota hybrids like the avalon (aunt has one).

Rick Mercer is pretty cool/funny too.

 

[Jim Prower]

So, if it's built in canada, why isnt' it allowed in Canada?

I have a feeling it has a little to do with safety.

 

[Famine]

^But the bottom line is electricity isn't going anywhere anytime soon no matter how it's produced. It's better than using fuel period.

Ummm, no.

You shift the power required for transport to the electricity generation industry - or rather you move a tiny source of GlobalWarmingDeath Gas and put it on top of the really big source.


We already generate electricity, yes. But we need to make more in order to use it in cars too.

 

[Philly]

We already generate electricity, yes. But we need to make more in order to use it in cars too.

And if we want those cars to actually do something "green," then we have to generate that electricity with something renewable. Powering a car with coal power is probably far worse than that 1.4L you could otherwise put under there.

 

[Dougboy]

Love the Rick Mercer, especially his "Talking to Americans" segmant on this hour has 22 minutes.

And i never knew there was a canadian car manufacturer lol

 

[Boundary Layer]

heh, I caught this on RMR when it first aired. Pretty good.

Only problems that no electric car can solve:

You have to pay for the electricity somehow.

Pay for it with the money you're not spending on gas...

Hydro costs in Canada (Manitoba in particular) are extremely low compared to the North American average. I'd be more than willing to be that when weighed against your regular 40mpg grocery getter that your wallet will be way fatter with one of these - and that's ignoring the difference in upfront purchase costs.

In the US, the electricity comes from dirty sources.

fixed that for you


I'm more than willing to concede that there's presently problems with implementing the technology into the current 1st world infrastructure, and the points you raise are valid in some markets... but either way it's a step forward. Regarding the issue over increased demands put on the electric grid - I dont think we're more than a decade or so from a fairly large shift in how power is generated. As it becomes less and less economically feasible to use fossil fuels theres bound to be a increase in the amount of windfarms and offshore hydro, and in energy efficient off-grid buildings lit and powered by solar technologies and microhydro applications.

 

[exigeracer]

There is also Campagna, who produce the T-Rex:

And also Locus, who (are trying to) produce their Supercar:

Coincidentally, all three companies are within a 2 hour drive from one another.

 

[Omnis]

I'd rather use my own fuel than plug in my car and pay the electric company for their fuel.

Plus, if you don't have your own garage, electric cars are absolutely worthless.

 

[Philly]

I'm more than willing to concede that there's presently problems with implementing the technology into the current 1st world infrastructure, and the points you raise are valid in some markets... but either way it's a step forward. Regarding the issue over increased demands put on the electric grid - I dont think we're more than a decade or so from a fairly large shift in how power is generated. As it becomes less and less economically feasible to use fossil fuels theres bound to be a increase in the amount of windfarms and offshore hydro, and in energy efficient off-grid buildings lit and powered by solar technologies and microhydro applications.

I guess then these do make a little more sense. So it's like running a hydrogen car for exposure and things before there is an adequate infrastructure?

I'd rather use my own fuel than plug in my car and pay the electric company for their fuel.

Umm, isn't it the same as buying gas at the pump?

 

[Omnis]

I guess then these do make a little more sense. So it's like running a hydrogen car for exposure and things before there is an adequate infrastructure?



Umm, isn't it the same as buying gas at the pump?

No, because the electric company here (and usually everywhere) is a monopoly. At least there is an inkling of competition at the pump.

Also, it's not like gas prices are going to keep going up and up and up. Read this: http://www.lewrockwell.com/rozeff/rozeff192.html

 

[buickgnx88]

Yes but with gas you have to worry about all the problems associated with it, including running out of gas, bad gas, getting gas, engine repairs, buying oil, etc. With the electric it's just a car that you plug in when you aren't using it, and into a standard plug nonetheless! No adaptors, no special machines, just a regular 3 prong plug. Plus, you don't HAVE to charge it at your house, you can use an outlet somewhere else!

 

[Omnis]

Yes but with gas you have to worry about all the problems associated with it, including running out of gas, bad gas, getting gas, engine repairs, buying oil, etc. With the electric it's just a car that you plug in when you aren't using it, and into a standard plug nonetheless! No adaptors, no special machines, just a regular 3 prong plug. Plus, you don't HAVE to charge it at your house, you can use an outlet somewhere else!

And who's gonna pay for that outlet somewhere else? There would have to be a complete change of infrastructure to accommodate electric vehicles in that way.

edit: That said, I don't think they should be illegal. You'd just be boned if you ran out of juice.

 

[buickgnx88]

I meant you could use someone else's outlet, without them knowing, so you wouldn't have to pay!

 

[Grand Prix]

Hmm, I wonder why Bombardier don't make cars? They make everything else, from snowmobiles, to trains, airplanes and jet skis...

 

[ND4SPD]

Love the Rick Mercer, especially his "Talking to Americans" segmant on this hour has 22 minutes.

And i never knew there was a canadian car manufacturer lol

Besides the last two mentioned, you've never heard of a Bricklin SV-1?!

 

[Omnis]

I meant you could use someone else's outlet, without them knowing, so you wouldn't have to pay!

Yeah but that's theft of service. Probably contributes to why they're illegal.

 

[buickgnx88]

Eh, but if you noticed they aren't illegal anymore. Besides, it's still easier to just plug it in than worry about the hassles of having to fill up your gas tank and changing the oil. I'd rather just run my car on the same power as my house, as it's one less thing to worry about paying for. You do pay more, but if you already are efficient with how you use your power then you shouldn't have to pay much more. And it's not like the car will be charging 24/7 either!

 

[exigeracer]

Yeah but that's theft of service. Probably contributes to why they're illegal.

It has nothing to do with why the car is illegal in Canada.

 

[Grand Prix]

Didn't they say that they could sell them in BC? It looks a lot safer than a Smart car, holds quite a lot of stuff, and is easy to use and maintain. Only drawback is that it only has two seats, but for your average British Columbian liberal-minded university student, this car is a bargain at $12,000. And in this case the 20 cases of beer storage capacity is actually relevant.

 

[Robin]

Looks like a F430 and an Ascari A10 had a baby!

Robin