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I have two drift cars, a fully built s2000 and the RE RX7 fully built both cars are on comfort hards.
The problem I find is as I exit a corner in either car or try to link into another corner, the car snaps the other way and I spin.
Say I'm going round a left hand corner I will drift to the end of the corner as I straighten up it snaps right and spins
is there a rough setup I could apply to either or is there something I could adjust to stop this?
Many thanks Adam.
 
Used less grippy front tyres if your using tyres like racing or Sports soft.

Make the front end alittle softer and it'll be less twitchy by lowering spring rates, arbs etc.


But more than likely you are just keep the opposite lock on for too long and not straightening the wheels at the right time and when the car gets grip towards the end of the corner and the weight shifts to the front, you get snapped to the other side of the track.

Its a lot easier in real life as there is much more feedback but you still get people starting off shooting off in the opposite direction out of corners as they have kept too much lock on and can't get it off in time.



Just practice a bit more and be little more gentle on your steering inputs and throttle control on the exits of corners and you'll get the knack to it.

Some cars have less tendency to snap on you too. I find the RX-7s can be pretty bad for it really compared to silivas etc which is kinda right as FCs and FDs are far more twitchy in real life than an S13, S14 or S15 too :)
 
First off don't full tune your drift cars, try to drift them stock and then add upgrades one after one!
Most cars with more than 400Hp are struggling for traction on comfort hard tires (except MR and RR cars).

Cars with 380hp works best for low to medium speed tracks, for higher speed tracks higher power cars will do better!
 
DaveM-sport
Make the front end alittle softer and it'll be less twitchy by lowering spring rates, arbs etc.
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Actually, that's kinda backwards. Softening up the front is going to give you more steering response and probably make the snap issue worse.

But regardless, if you're just learning my best suggestion is to drive a completely stock car, just change the tires. In any silvia or rx7 I would go with comfort softs, possibly mediums depending on preference. Once you figure out weight transfer and grip and can initiate comfortably, you'll find that having more grip makes it easier to adjust your line and control your drifts.
 
Turbo actually just helped me out withthis yesterday. You'll want to premote grip in the rear so it can "catch itself."

For example, when I was snapping out of turns I had settings along the lines of:

7.0 spring stiffness
5 rebound and compression
5 anti roll
This was for all corners.

I corrected with the following:

F/R
7.0/5.5 spring rate
4/5 compression rebound
2/4 anti roll (have to double check this one though)

My camber is at 2.5/0.5, toe 0.0/0.20.

Keeping in mind, this was on a sileighty. The same pricipal applied with another project car. Both cars have lower chance of snapping and are much more predictable. Autumn mini reverse for example I can practically lay the whole track out in a smoke trail.

Then again, I am still a bit new to this whole drifting thing, take anything I say with a grain of salt.
 
I don't use full suspension when I make a drift car, but what I do to get out of a drift when a car tries to bite back is I get off the car and let it straighten out, it works for me, but might not work for you if you don't have a grippy setup. I always run semi-grippy tires on my cars.
 
TakeshiSkunk
Actually, that's kinda backwards. Softening up the front is going to give you more steering response and probably make the snap issue worse.

But regardless, if you're just learning my best suggestion is to drive a completely stock car, just change the tires. In any silvia or rx7 I would go with comfort softs, possibly mediums depending on preference. Once you figure out weight transfer and grip and can initiate comfortably, you'll find that having more grip makes it easier to adjust your line and control your drifts.
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Not saying to soften all the settings but sometimes a softer arb or slightly softer springs depending on tyre choice helps alot.

If you have a very stiff arb the front will grip aggressively as the car straightens or ends a drift as weight is transferred to the front again and if not the perfect steering input is applied the car will snap alot.


Agree with using low powered cars to start off with too beire you go messing with mods and tuning before you know the basics.

If you want to try a high powered car just to see what it like, If recommend using any of the FD or D1gp cars as they are pretty easy to control and can make a total beginner look like a drift king in no time... Just go back to the low powered cars again though to refine you technique.


I'd stay away from big power torquey cars like the Vipers etc as they don't really require much skill to slide or help you impove lines etc as you can just always use the huge grunt from the V8s or bigger to get you out of trouble.

I can easily link the whole lap of tsukaba, autumn ring and mini but I'm still learning really so take that advice with a pinch of salt too :D
 
Sounds more like a problem with the driver than the car, to be honest. Sounds like you are transferring too hard. Best advice I can offer without seeing a video is that you need to unload the suspension before you toss it the other way. There are several ways to do this, one is by lifting on the throttle a little just as you are exiting the corner. Don't lift enough to transfer to the other side, but enough so that you can feel the suspension unloading. This will decrease your angle a little so adjust your countersteer appropriately. You'll feel it in the wheel in a real car, haven't got my wheel up and running in GT5 so I can't say what it'll feel like in GT5 but I bet you can feel it there too. It's hard to describe, but it feels like the wheel gets a little lighter.

Once you unload the suspension a little, it won't transfer so harshly. As you get better you can slowly work yourself into those quick snappy transfers you see the D1 drifters doing. Start off small, just tiny transfers, to learn how to handle the car and how much you can transfer weight around without losing control.

Eventually as you get really good, you'll get to the point where you want to increase the load on the suspension right before the transfer in order to execute it more quickly. This takes more skill though because it's easy to overshoot and get sent spinning like what's happening to you. You are probably trying the more aggressive technique without realizing it. Try the cooler technique until you get the hang of it, then go big.
 
Personally I use comfort hard all round, does make some of the more powerful cars a handful but makes everything much more progressive, and I agree with those who say start stock and add bits
 
So I done a lot of laps in a ae86 round autumn ring mini till I could drift most of the track. Then I got back into my s2000 fitted a smaller turbo (mid rpm) there is a flat torque curve so spins up really well at any revs, set suspension and LSD to standard then done a few laps. Then I tweeked the suspension settings till I was comfortable and I extended the gear ratios to get a long 2nd gear. It drifts really well now. And at 360bhp it is quite easy to control.
 

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