Cars That Could Have Been Better

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the acura integra should have had the front end of the Japanese cars

for the 35Z, wishing for the 2+2, infiniti's got that covered with the G35. they aren't gonna make a car that will compete with each other
 
Is it so hard to type outJapanese instead of "Japanese"?

Anyways, people who want a 4 seater car would probably want luxury too, which goes to the G35. The coupe verison isnt that much slower, can seat 4 and is more in the luxury class that the 350z. Even though it cost alittle bit more.
 
RB26DETT....Why wouldn't they? They've done it before...Sentra SE-R....200SX SE-R.....Infinity G20.....

If people want LUXURY..they'll get an infinity...if people wanta sports car they'll get a 2+2 250z........And if the Acura integra had the front end of a japanese car it would be ripping off the japanese market..Considering Acura is a North American car company it's got to have some difference.
 
I've been thinking. I'm kind of into the 350Z, but then, I'm not really. What I'm looking at in GT2 is the Datsun 240Z. I think that the 350Z of now looks more like a more aerodynamic Skyline without the typical taillights and rear wing. As I think about the 350Z and compare it to the 1971 classic of a car, the 350Z could have been better looking.

If Nissan could have incorporated a design that paid homage to the 240Z while making it more modern, I would have gotten into the 350Z a little more than now. As you know, I consider the Datsun 240Z and the Toyota 2000GT as two of the most beautiful cars ever from Japan. And of course, I considered the S15 Silvia as the most beautiful Japanese car of the past 10 years. Only thing that could have been better about the 350Z was the styling, to make a long story short.
 
Okay, maybe TT shouldn't be a good idea on a 350, but I think it should still get a 2+2. But I definately think that Toyota's MR2 Spyder should definately get some better HP and torque. Also maybe change the design of the exterior and make it look similiar to the '99 model.
 
Originally posted by M5Power


I don't think we should be looking at price here, but rather the class that it's in. [/B]

What?! You're the king of value comparos. Why the heck wouldn't we look at price?

There are no buyers for the Marauder. Most the people Mercury tried to appeal to want their large, powerful domestic as an SUV. The other people who DID want a performance sedan went Japanese or German because they realized the Marauder was too heavy, too slow and too ugly for the money.

And like I already said, the 300C Hemi renders the Marauder a lame duck.


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Originally posted by ///M-Spec
What?! You're the king of value comparos. Why the heck wouldn't we look at price?


Because it's easier for me to win the argument if we look at class instead of price!

There are no buyers for the Marauder.

I've seen two, Wrongy Wrongerson.

And like I already said, the 300C Hemi renders the Marauder a lame duck.

I bet the people who bought Marauders in 2002 or 2003 are pretty peeved, just like I'm pretty peeved that Chrysler cancelled the 300M without telling a single person.
 
(in Churche Lady voice) How convenient.

Oh, I'm sure Mercury execs are pattin each others' backs over both the Maraduers sold last year. :p

Who wants a 300M now that the C is out? Hello? I know someone who traded his M for the C and never looked back.


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Easily the ZO6 could have came with the much sexier glassback coupe, and a better interior(sp?)
To quote Motertrend" Before we comented on the Vette's downgraded interior, and our complaints continue. But cheesy plastics aside, it worked. We heard about the C6 having a supercar worthy interior with added performance.But even if the interior is the same, the rumor of a 500+ hp ZO6 is enough for us to forget (the interior)." or something of that effect.
 
The C6 could have some better cues to it, give the automotive industry 40 years and every car will look identical, it's already heading in that direction....just halfcocked blends of cars that were produced 3-4 years prior to make something that is supposedly "Innovative"
 
Originally posted by ///M-Spec

Oh, I'm sure Mercury execs are pattin each others' backs over both the Maraduers sold last year. :p


Actually, I thought I'd seen two but I can only remember ever actually seeing one. But I saw a 2004 Acura NSX today; that's got to count for something.

Who wants a 300M now that the C is out? Hello? I know someone who traded his M for the C and never looked back.

The 300M was the only premium sedan better than the Infiniti M45! Everyone should've wanted it!!
 
The C6 styling could be WAY better. I cant stand the front grill! the whole front end styling is just so.... blah. it's not distinctive. you'd thought they would have taken a hint from ford and make the next corvette like an ol' stingray! Now that would be cool. But it sounds like the powertrain is going to be spot on!
 
When it comes to Chevrolet (or even GM for that matter), I don't know who's in charge of styling, but most of the newer cars are looking horribly un-stylish. They killed the Cavalier, damn near killed the next Corvette, the Silverado, nice try Aveo, and stuff like that. I loved the Camaro RS from the late 1990s and early 2000. It had wonderful styling and had sporty looks. The last Cavalier was actually pretty nice, kind of looked like a baby Camaro with its front and rear lights. I think it's still a tuner favorite. The C5 and ZO6 Corvettes were both sexy. When I seen one on the road, it is beautiful to see them go down the road. I also think GM screwed up the next Opel/Vauxhall Tigra across the Atlantic.

So, some styling changes are definitely needed for GM in my view.
 
What's with GM and Mazda?! Look at a RX-8 and the SS concept side by side. They are nearly identicle! And the solstice could very well be a Pontiac miata! (And what's with Pontiac and the letter 'G'?)
 
I think the Miata will still take out the Solstice. At one point, I thought the Solstice was alright. But nowadays, I still think the Miata made an affordable roadster for those who want top-down excitement. It's low to the ground like most exotic sportscars, but doesn't cost supercar money. Only changes I'd probably recommend is maybe the lights.

The SS Concept, to me, could have been the next Camaro, or at least a replacement for it. I thought the taillights had to go. If this "next Camaro" would have talilights from the Pontiac GTO (America's Holden), it would probably look a bit better. And if I'm not mistaken, I THINK the Mazda RX-8 came before the SS Concept. So if you ask me, GM wanted to make their own car, but decidedly looks too much like the RX-8, especially in front. But if the SS Concept looked like a beauty contest matchup against the RX-8... well, you decide who the winner is.
 
JohnBM01
The new NSX is actually stylish with its non-retractable lights (thank God). But its looks are very questionable. The newer NSX is in the same s*** as the C6 Corvette. Two cars that have non-retractable lights, but with somewhat off styling. The C6 has it worse, but the NSX could first look a little more aggressive. But the newest NSX isn't a disappointment in my view. The headlights can probably be a little bigger and more stylish (not to say the ones now are bad). Other than that, the newer NSX is still an affordable supercar (unless you consider the Lotus Elise a supercar).

The NSX looks aggressive enough IMHO. The C6 Corvette doesn't look all that great but I'd say that the new NSX is a huge improvement over the old one.
 
just about every mazda. nice cars but under powered form the factory.
94-97 kia sephia's. great wheel base but way under powered and WAAAAAAAYYY to much body roll.
the tiburon and new eclipses. they just suck.
 
Even though I'm I total fan of this car, I think the Mazda RX8 would have been a lot better if it had more torque, the car just doesn't have enough torque to pass on the freeway. Mazda could easily solved this by making larger rotors, hopefully this will be solved when I get my license. :)
 
Never heard of the Sunbird. In one of the GT4 topics, I mentioned this Koenig that looks like an NSX. So I think the NSX can use only a few styling changes, and I mean the newest one. The latest S2000 looks alright, but it still a fun car to soak up the sun with. I think the front styling could be modified slightly to make for some sweet styling. I don't think it needs a complete overhaul, but it is an affordable sportscar if you don't have enough for the underrated (nowadays) NSX. Or as one magazine called the NSX, "the forgotten supercar."

Man, I tell you. When I seen an NSX at my old community college, I had a chance to briefly talk with the owner of it. The car looks like a Japanese Ferrari. It was so cool to be right in front of it (this was the first-gen NSX, by the way). Don't dare call this "rice" because it's anything but. I remember seeing this NSX in SPEED GT with Paul Cunningham back in 2003 or something. I think the latest NSX can only use a few styling changes, but not a total overhaul.

As far as the C6 Corvette goes, the head of styling for GM has GOT TO GO. The Corvette is going to die a slow, agonizing death with its styling. I think some better decisions could have been made, but making it look more bulky and aggressive takes away why I loved the Corvette in the first place. I loved it for the sexy styling, alluring lines, and just that it's cool to take the top down with. Now the latest styling ideas are going to kill America's best sportscar. What more lovely cars are going to die? I guess I should stick to Dodge and Lexus...
 
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94-97 kia sephia's. great wheel base but way under powered and WAAAAAAAYYY to much body roll.

It's a Kia. It's supposed to have body roll, hence the low purchase price. Get over it.

JohnBM01
As far as the C6 Corvette goes, the head of styling for GM has GOT TO GO. The Corvette is going to die a slow, agonizing death with its styling.

You know, John, with all the intelligent and semi-intelligent stuff you say, this caught me completely off-guard. You're making a statement about a car you've not even seen on the road. The C6 Corvette is clearly just an evolution of the GM design process, it's really not much of a risk, and I haven't talked to anyone in the market for the vehicle who dislikes it - in fact, the design is so non-risky that the vast majority of the people I've discussed it with are totally indifferent.
 
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