Cerbera

[Garconis]

How do you pronounce the TVR's "Cerbera"?

I thought it was: Kur-bare-uh
I heard someone call it: Sir-bur-iss

 

[Emohawk]

'someone' got it confused with cerberus. I've said sir-bear-ah whenever it's come up. The first time I saw it I got it all dyslexic and thought it was cerebra. I still think that's cooler, except that it's the plural of cerebrum and that maybe isn't a good name for a car.

 

[G.T]

I've always said sir-bear-ah.

Live4speed should be able to answer this.

 

[Mike Rotch]

I have only ever heard it "Sir-Bear-ah".

"Ker-ber-a" just sounds silly 👎

 

[TheCracker]

Serb-er-ra - i've heard TVR dealers pronounce it this way.

 

[pimp racer]

Jermey Clarkson or Tiff Needil says it like this - " Sir-e-bra" or sometihng like that?

 

[vladimir]

I have only ever heard it "Sir-Bear-ah".

"Ker-ber-a" just sounds silly 👎

if its from a latin word it should be ker-ber-rah.

like ki-ke-ro and keh-sar.

but ser-ber-ra sounds better.

 

[Dave A]

The TVR Cerbera's name was derrived from the Chimera the three headed dog that guards the gates of hell from Greek mythology and also the name of another TVR model that the Cerberas design was taken from, it's pronounced Sir-burr-uh.

 

[Famine]

The TVR Cerbera's name was derrived from the Chimera

Wouldn't that be a Chimera then?

Cerbera is from Cerberus, the three-headed dog that guarded Hades. It is pronounced "Sur-bur-a" (and yes, it's from a Latin word, which would be sur-bur-russ as Latin predominantly has a soft, sibiliant C rather than a hard C. Cicero's name is pronounced "Si-Ser-O").

Chimera is from the Chimera of Roman legend. She was made up of various bits of goat, lion and dragon (there's no particular agreement which bits) and breathed fire. She was the mother of the Sphinx and the Nemean Lion and was killed by Bellerephon.

Griffith is probably from the Griffin/Gryphon (a lion with and eagle's head and wings) of similar extraction.

 

[Dave A]

Cerberus is the brother of the Chimera, another three headed mythical beast, the Cerberus wouldn't have been called the Cerberus had the Chimera not been named the Chimera, hence the reason it's a deriative of the Chimera's name. Also it's pronounced Ser-burr-uh, not Ser-bur-a, TVR history sites will tell you that. Interestingly, the new TVR Typhon was also the name of one of the partent to Cerberus and the Chimera, the other being Echinda. Mayber we'll see a TVR Echinda soo eh.

 

[Famine]

Cerberus was the brother of both Chimera AND Othrus. Orthrus and Chimera's children were the Sphinx and the Nemean Lion. So Chimera is both the sister and sister-in-law of Cerberus. The Greeks were bloody weird.

Chimera's physical make-up is subject to conjecture. She either had one head, which was a lion, or two heads, which were goat AND lion. She breathed fire, but no-one's sure which head it came from.

Cerberus is similarly confusing. He either had three heads, all dog (not to mention the snakes heads on his back and the snakes he had for tails), or a HUNDRED dog heads.

Couldn't give a rat's ass about "TVR history sites". It comes down to personal preference. And, having studied Latin, my preference is right



Incidentally, amongst the children of Typhon and Echidna was the Hydra (also, the Sphinx is attributed to them in some sources, despite being a grandchild through both Orthrus and Chimera in others), and Typhon's parents were Tartarus and Gaia. I think these, assuming TVR don't go weird - recent models including numbers and the "Sagaris" (a Persian axe) - would be decent names for the next models...

 

[Dave A]

You know your greek mythology Famine, can't say I ever studied latin though .

 

[vladimir]

as far as i know the romans pronounced the C like a K. they had no K, only C and that was pronounced like in the words caedes, claudius or crassus. so its ker-ber-ah.

 

[Dave A]

It's pronounced according to TVR as Ser-burr-uh, Famine says Ser-bur-a is the correct pronounciation which I can't confirm or deny I don't know latin all too well. I do know the C may have been pronounced as both the C and the K, since the Roman Ceaser's were called ceaser with the C pronouced as a C not a K.

 

[vladimir]

It's pronounced according to TVR as Ser-burr-uh, Famine says Ser-bur-a is the correct pronounciation which I can't confirm or deny I don't know latin all too well. I do know the C may have been pronounced as both the C and the K, since the Roman Ceaser's were called ceaser with the C pronouced as a C not a K.

no he was not. he is today pronounced with a C, but he was pronounced with a K back then. every C was pronounced with K. it was kaesar and kikero. the german word kaiser was for example derived from the name ceasar.

 

[BMW POWER]

I've always pronounced it the same as live4speed, "Sir-burr-uh" but I guess it changes from person to person and where your from.

 

[Dave A]

Anyway it's from the Greek not Roman pronounciation. Greek and Roman arn't the same language and if you look it up the C is pronounced Ser not Ker in ancient Greek.

 

[Famine]

as far as i know the romans pronounced the C like a K. they had no K, only C and that was pronounced like in the words caedes, claudius or crassus. so its ker-ber-ah.

They may well have done, but Latin was never a spoken language.

Glad I was never a Kenturion.

 

[vladimir]

They may well have done, but Latin was never a spoken language.

nah, the romans spoke klingon all the time...

 

[Famine]

You mean clingon?

 

[vladimir]

no.

 

[Omnis]

You mean clingon?

i think slingon would sound provocative and oh-so strangely erotic.

blast, i've said too much!

 

[daan]

They may well have done, but Latin was never a spoken language.

So what did they use? Did they write stuff down and hand each other notes? Sign language?