Certain people are dummies

  • Thread starter Thread starter 1X83Z
  • 31 comments
  • 1,190 views
1

1X83Z

Premium
Messages
20,944
United States
usa
Tell me something.

Why would you buy a base Camry when you could have a top-line Corolla?

Base Camry:
- 0-60 in 8.9 sec
- no keyless entry
- no ABS
- manual transmission
- 15" hubcaps
- no alarm
- CD/cassette
- no full-size spare
- no side airbags
- $18000

Top-line Corolla:
- 0-60 in 9.5 sec
- keyless entry
- alloy wheels
- 6-CD
- leather upholstery
- front side airbags, curtain side airbags
- power sunroof
- $18600

I mean, seriously. This is true for practically everything too. Top-line A4, base A6; top-line Regal, base LeSabre; top-line CTS, base STS; top-line Aveo, base Cavalier; top-line Cavalier, base Malibu/Impala, ETC!

Stop buying base models, people. You can do better.
 
M5Power
Tell me something.

Why would you buy a base Camry when you could have a top-line Corolla?
Click to expand...
Maybe they want the slightly larger interior and a more barge-like ride?

Just a few weeks ago, my cousin had the option of a fully loaded Altima 4 cyl or a base Altima v6 model. He got the v6... but he's been driving slugish cars most of his life and he wanted something quick yet still practical for his family. Funny thing is, even though the book value on the two cars is almost the same, the v6 had a cheaper lease payment.
 
I'd take the V6 too. Except I wouldn't because the Altima 2.5SL is practically as rare as the Bentley Continental GT. I've seen four 2.5SLs in my lifetime, one cut me off yesterday and - though I didn't want to - I rode her tail until she got in the other lane.

But under normal circumstances I'd take the V6 because it's got 250bhp.

But I would rather have a Sentra SE-R Spec V with every option than an Altima 2.5S with none.
 
M5Power
I'd take the V6 too. Except I wouldn't because the Altima 2.5SL is practically as rare as the Bentley Continental GT. I've seen four 2.5SLs in my lifetime, one cut me off yesterday and - though I didn't want to - I rode her tail until she got in the other lane.

But under normal circumstances I'd take the V6 because it's got 250bhp.

But I would rather have a Sentra SE-R Spec V with every option than an Altima 2.5S with none.
Click to expand...
I see V6 Altimas all the time. But, I have to agree with you 100% on the Sentra Spec V over the Altima 2.5S. The Spec V is an outstanding value.

And Canada is also cursed with the Aveo. What is it with Chevrolet giving all their new cars crappy names?
 
We get people at Fusz that come in wanting a base or just above base Mazda 6i, which has the same 2.3 as the 3S, but they have to have the 6.
We also get people who want a Subaru with manual windows and manual locks, really manual everything - a car that hasn't existed from Subaru in years.

It's funny that my '94 Protege LX does 0-60 in about a second faster than the top of the line Corolla.
 
I coulda sworn that a top of the line Corolla had the 170hp celica engine in it. It's 0-60 is downright dreadful. Oh yeah, and I'd rather have a camry because it fits families better.
 
M5Power
But I would rather have a Sentra SE-R Spec V with every option than an Altima 2.5S with none.
Click to expand...
yea, but wouldn't you be sacrificing a lot of passenger space in getting a sentra over the altima?
 
Another thing, why do people buy new cars when they can buy a 4 year old car for about 50% the cost?
Click to expand...
Some people have reasons for buying a new car. Some people drive their vehicle for their work, and their companies pay for it. My father gets paid to drive his car when he goes anywhere for work, like he will get paid to go to a meeting in Chicago from here in Milwaukee and stuff. He is only allowed to have a car that is up to four or five years old, so we always buy new.
 
M5Power
Tell me something.

Why would you buy a base Camry when you could have a top-line Corolla?

<SNIP>

I mean, seriously. This is true for practically everything too. Top-line A4, base A6; top-line Regal, base LeSabre; top-line CTS, base STS; top-line Aveo, base Cavalier; top-line Cavalier, base Malibu/Impala, ETC!

Stop buying base models, people. You can do better.
Click to expand...


Doug, you of all people should know a loaded Corolla is exactly what Toyota wants you to buy rather than a stripper Camry. Toyota makes way more $ off the options on the Corolla and makes almost nothing on a base Camry.

Their pricing strategy is designed so that customers arrive at precisely the conclusion that puts more $ in their hands. Not that there's anything wrong with that :)


M
 
Not everyone in the world lives and dies by the feature list, Doug. Just some people.

I'd rather have more performance - meaning power, handling, and interior space - than more fussy little 'luxury' options. In fact, I'm usually ticked off because you can't buy the more powerful engine packages without getting all the extra crapola that I can live without and don't want to pay for.

I like all the goodies on my wife's TSX, don't get me wrong, but I don't expect to buy a car like that for myself.
 
Quick_Nick
Another thing, why do people buy new cars when they can buy a 4 year old car for about 50% the cost?
Click to expand...

Because a 4 year old car is worth half of what a brand new car is worth. And because they can afford to.


M
 
I can see your point with the base higher model vs top spec lower model.

However I think my grandad put it quite well, why pay 50% more for extras when you can have another half a car? ;) For instance there are a number of small cars that the base model is nearly half the price of the top model. Another point is, you can't polish a turd :lol:

Seriously though, for my next car I'm looking at a decent spec with most of the extras second hand of course. Save money, get toys :sly:
 
Victor Vance
You say 'no alarm' like it's a bad thing or something. Alarms are annoying.
Click to expand...
True enough. However, you get an insurance discount when your car has one.
The alarm in my wife's '99 Camry is rather annoying though. If you lock the doors and set the alarm with the key-fob switch, and then open the door with the key, you set off the durn alarm. :irked:
 
M5Power
Tell me something.

Why would you buy a base Camry when you could have a top-line Corolla?
Click to expand...
Have you ever sat in the back seat of a Corolla? The ****ing thing has like two inches to stick your legs in – I swear it was designed for amputees.

Thus, if you have a family with full-size adults who will be in the back a lot, it'd be doing them a favor to get a Camry (not that the Camry has a limousine-like rear seat, but at least it's tolerable for more than 5 seconds at a time).
 
more room
less toys (i preferemanual windows, door locks etc. less stuff to break down)
same payment.


besides, if were comparing corolla and camry we really are comparing appliances. if we were talking civic Si vs base honda accord that would be something else. (but not the current gen shoebox civic si)

in some cases you get the better suspension in the bigger car. indepenent all round (altima) vs front strut and twist beam (nissan sentra)

and you cant put no dubs on a corolla!!!! :scared:
 
Victor Vance
You say 'no alarm' like it's a bad thing or something. Alarms are annoying.
Click to expand...

Insurance discount.

MazKid
It's funny that my '94 Protege LX does 0-60 in about a second faster than the top of the line Corolla.
Click to expand...

8.5? Ha! Your car? Try 10.5.

ShobThaBob
I coulda sworn that a top of the line Corolla had the 170hp celica engine in it. It's 0-60 is downright dreadful. Oh yeah, and I'd rather have a camry because it fits families better.
Click to expand...

That's the performance version, I was just talking about the Corolla LE to further my point.

A base Camry may be SLIGHTLY larger on paper than a top-spec Corolla, but it fits families no better with a manual transmission, no side airbags, and no ABS.

emad
yea, but wouldn't you be sacrificing a lot of passenger space in getting a sentra over the altima?
Click to expand...

No. Sentra has 0.9" less front head room, 2.2" less front leg room, 0.6" less rear head room, and 2.7" less rear leg room. It's not all that significant.

///M-Spec
Doug, you of all people should know a loaded Corolla is exactly what Toyota wants you to buy rather than a stripper Camry. Toyota makes way more $ off the options on the Corolla and makes almost nothing on a base Camry.
Click to expand...

So?

neon_duke
Not everyone in the world lives and dies by the feature list, Doug. Just some people.

I'd rather have more performance - meaning power, handling, and interior space - than more fussy little 'luxury' options. In fact, I'm usually ticked off because you can't buy the more powerful engine packages without getting all the extra crapola that I can live without and don't want to pay for.
Click to expand...

This is totally irrelevant here, is it not? I understand your point as it relates to, say, the Dodge Magnum, but comparing top trims to "upscale" base trims your point's got no merit. I'm saying for the same price you can have more of EVERYTHING except name.

Sage
Thus, if you have a family with full-size adults who will be in the back a lot, it'd be doing them a favor to get a Camry (not that the Camry has a limousine-like rear seat, but at least it's tolerable for more than 5 seconds at a time).
Click to expand...

Maybe you were sitting in a Corolla with the seats all the way back; the difference is 2.4 inches. And since everyone seem hell-bent on the family car example, would you rather have 2.4 inches or side curtain airbags and antilock brakes? For my family, I'd rather a vehicle not have backseats and be forced to make multiple trips everywhere just to get people places than drive a family car without ABS and side airbags.
 
Quick_Nick
Another thing, why do people buy new cars when they can buy a 4 year old car for about 50% the cost?
Click to expand...
Sometimes people want to be responsible and/or knowledgable for everything that happens to the car, they want to know where it's been etc... With a new car you know exactly everything. Besides, maybe you want to get a very special vehicle that just came out or just changed greatly this year, and don't want to wait 4 years, that'd just be silly.

You can't buy a 4-year-old 2005 Mustang GT for example. :sly:

As for buying base models versus loaded lesser models, I mostly agree.

Here's an exception I thought of though: You could get a fully loaded 2004 Mustang GT annv. edition for over 29k, and that car can run the quarter mile in 14.1 or 14.2 if you can drive it any good. OR you could get a 2004 Mustang Mach 1 for a little more than 29k and it's mostly already loaded with options, yet it can run mid 13s at a crappy track in hot weather. The Mach 1 has a lot of the same options already too. Not to mention that when you sell the car, the Mach 1 nameplate is worth far more than the everyday Mustang GT. So why is the Mustang GT so popular? Most of the time you can buy a Mach 1 for maybe 1k more and you get more performance and the options aren't too bad either. Just something that's opposite of the Camry/Corolla deal (I would prefer the Corolla) that I think is funny.
 
Speced up Corolla Vs. base model Camry?

- i'd rather walk or take the bus
 
M5Power
8.5? Ha! Your car? Try 10.5.
Click to expand...
Road and Track got 9.0 in the LX, Car and Driver got 8.5.
Mine prolly runs 9.8 since the clutch slips, but that should be fixed later this week.
 
neon_duke
Not everyone in the world lives and dies by the feature list, Doug. Just some people.

I'd rather have more performance - meaning power, handling, and interior space - than more fussy little 'luxury' options. In fact, I'm usually ticked off because you can't buy the more powerful engine packages without getting all the extra crapola that I can live without and don't want to pay for.

I like all the goodies on my wife's TSX, don't get me wrong, but I don't expect to buy a car like that for myself.
Click to expand...

This car will do 0-100KMH in 3.6 seconds, about half the time it takes for you to roll up its windows (manually).

Unless you're really good at it.

ferrari_f40_interior.jpg


You might like it. 👍
 
^ early ones didn't even have wind down windows ^

....in fact they didn't even have interior door handles! - they just had a big hole in the door trim and a length of thin cable to pull.
 

Latest Posts

Back