Changing tires while pitting?

[aureliocr]

Did anybody change tires while pitting in Interlagos today? Is it better or should i just continue with my first set? Ive been changing the tires in the last few 10 lap races.

Also, is it just me, or is everyone particularly dirty in Interlagos? More so than other tracks.

 

[Nico_Ble99]

Did anybode change tires while pitting in Interlagos today? Is it better or should i just continue with my first set? Ive been changing the tires in the last few 10 lap races.

Also, is it just me, or is everyone particularly dirty in Interlagos? More so than other tracks.

I can't really help you for that Interlagos race, but I can tell you this: Changing tires during one of those races is almost neccessary if you ask me. It happened to me in a Suzuka daily before; went into the pits at lap 7/10 as P1 after a lap the others pitted and I only took fuel. In the end, I barely got P4 because my tires were so worn. It was drivable, but the difference in grip compared to the fresh tires was huge.

 

[ColinNZ]

Some people conserve fuel and tires and don't pit at all. I don't see the point of not changing tires while pitting, though, as tires drop off horrendously by the end of 10 laps.

As for Inter Lagos, I don't think I've ever been part of a clean race there.

 

[Nando deBem]

I got some 2nd places in DR A and S races using engine map 4 after half of the first lap. No need to pit, and you’ll still have fuel to use engine map 1 for the last 2 straights of the race.

The thing is:
You gotta control your urge to race others. Try to run fast, but do NOT be aggressive. People will pass... then pit... and you’ll be able to get the positions back.

 

[Shottah072]

The Interlagos layout makes bad drivers see gaps everywhere while they arent really there. Unless you are running in the top half of the top split expect to get divebombed in T1, T4, T8, T10 and even T12.

 

[ststav01]

I did 6 races and 3 of them I decided to pit at the end of lap 5...changed tyres and refuel. I was running on fuel map 1 during the whole race, but the pit at Interlagos seems a bit too long ~ 23-4 secs and there were people who were not pitting at all which seemed the "best" strategy for this particular track. I don't really like that the game is actually allowing you to be competitive after 10 laps of tire wear and still be fast enough, especially if you are using TCS but anyways, I did another 3 races with BMW/911 RSR but with fuel map 3-4 without pitting and got a few podiums...

So long story short - it really depends on the track whether or not you should pit but my observation is that in most of the cases you would be better off with lean fuel map and no pit at all.

 

[GT_Alex74]

Changing tyres costs you about 9 - 10 seconds. You have to weight it for yourself according to your lap times with fresh and worn tyres, and keep in mind those 10 seconds might allow more cars to pass you while you're in the pits, and that's potentially one time consuming battle for each opponent to overtake. So if you pit halfway on a 10 laps race, that means you need to have at least a 2 seconds difference in lap time between fresh and worn tyres.

 

[Jamie Bbbbb]

Yeah the divebombing can be pretty bad at Interlagos. Going into the tight corners in the middle sector, I like to point my car towards the apex and then brake in a straight line, so you slow down well and cover the inside to put people off divebombing you.

 

[Lost Sheltie]

I tried running without pitting last night in a 650s at Interlagos, and by the end my tyres were pretty shot. I was pretty sideways around most corners and was 2.5 secs off my fastest time on the last lap (where I got passed by 5 people). I could have fought for the places, but I really wasn't in the same race so I just left plenty of space up the inside for them to blast past.

Basically, if you have the option to change tyres at a pitstop I think it is always worth it.

 

[baldgye]

I can't really help you for that Interlagos race, but I can tell you this: Changing tires during one of those races is almost neccessary if you ask me. It happened to me in a Suzuka daily before; went into the pits at lap 7/10 as P1 after a lap the others pitted and I only took fuel. In the end, I barely got P4 because my tires were so worn. It was drivable, but the difference in grip compared to the fresh tires was huge.

That's not entirely true.
At the Suzuka race I didn't change tyres and would have won, having pitted in 4th if I hadn't cocked up the final lap.
If you manage the tyres, as best as the game allows and don't over drive the car, you can stretch them to last. You won't be the fastest, but if your in a good lobby with good ratings you can block.
The only place your really vulnerable is the first sector, but it's pretty easy to block if you position your car correctly.

 

[EmArA]

depending on the car feel and if you're able to do some tyre management. if not then fresh tyres would be the way to go.

 

[vonMarshall]

Changing tyres costs you about 9 - 10 seconds. You have to weight it for yourself according to your lap times with fresh and worn tyres, and keep in mind those 10 seconds might allow more cars to pass you while you're in the pits, and that's potentially one time consuming battle for each opponent to overtake. So if you pit halfway on a 10 laps race, that means you need to have at least a 2 seconds difference in lap time between fresh and worn tyres.

Interesting.

I need to time the tires part of a pit stop tonight. My impression has always been that it is about 4-5 seconds of the 22-25 seconds most stops take, so if I am driving hard on peak fuel and by default hurting my tires then changing them gives me 1.5 to 2 seconds a lap over driving with shot tires.

If I am trying the tortoise on lean fuel then I am not burning my tires up so my lap times remain far more stable over 10 laps.

Going to head to Maggiore now and run a race with tires and fuel and one with just fuel. Maggiore is a long track too and the pits, IIRC, are short, so it may be worth the tire call here, but a shorter track and correspondingly lower lap time like Brands may not.

 

[GT_Alex74]

Going to head to Maggiore now and run a race with tires and fuel and one with just fuel. Maggiore is a long track too and the pits, IIRC, are short, so it may be worth the tire call here, but a shorter track and correspondingly lower lap time like Brands may not.

Tried that on Dragon Trail Gr.4 race, 16s spent in the pits with fuel only VS 25.9s with fuel and tyres.

 

[LordDrift]

The Interlagos layout makes bad drivers see gaps everywhere while they arent really there. Unless you are running in the top half of the top split expect to get divebombed in T1, T4, T8, T10 and even T12.

Yep wide angle everywhere , if you drive the line yourre asking to get tomahawked.

 

[vonMarshall]

If I am trying the tortoise on lean fuel then I am not burning my tires up so my lap times remain far more stable over 10 laps.

Going to head to Maggiore now and run a race with tires and fuel and one with just fuel. Maggiore is a long track too and the pits, IIRC, are short, so it may be worth the tire call here, but a shorter track and correspondingly lower lap time like Brands may not.

Well that was a disaster!
Maggiore would appear to be far too long to make the no-pit strategy work. I had to run almost full lean for the whole race. I can normally pole with a very low 1:57 and in a race consistently hit 1:58s but found myself doing 2:01s on fresh tires and 2:03s at the end so losing 3-5 seconds per lap!

Will wait for a shorter track to try the strategy again.

 

[Scuderia Paul]

Interlagos is one of those circuits where people are surprisingly aggressive. When you brake for T1 you will almost always get somebody braking about 50m too late and when get to S2 you are usually bumped. Such a good circuit though.

 

[yas]

but the pit at Interlagos seems a bit too long

Indeed the Interlagos pit is very long, so there is profit in not stopping there. On the other hand Maggiore has a very short pit, so no point in skipping.

Generally I prefer stopping so I can always attack, when to stop is a different story. if there is a "train" in front of me and its past the third lap I'd stop. I can then get out with fresh tires and push so that I can pass the whole train through the pits. Depends on the drivers but such trains often miss 2-3 seconds per lap. The issue is that at with an early stop I am vulnerable at the end. Still if the track is clear I'd stay until it starts hurting lap times.

 

[TomPyke]

Depends on your driving style as well. I like to pit lap 6/7 depending on lap times and what the opposition are doing. Fuel map 1, so benefit from lighter car on laps 6/7 and again after the pit so by lap 10 with fresh tyres and low fuel, I can usually pick up 2-3 places by passing those with worn tyres. Could argue I would be ahead if I pitted earlier but seems to work more often than not that i finish ahead of those I was behind before they stop on lap 5

Plus it’s fun having a good car on last lap. Makes it more tense