Cizeta Moroder V16T

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I don't like the back end's look from a front 3/4 view. Looks... funny, and the rear wheels look strangely small.


Great post though :) I'll feel like the man when my gf goes "What is that, a Lamborghini?" and I regurgitate all that information, mwahaha.



edit: D'oh, didn't mean to be a post miner - someone in a new thread linked to this one, and this seemed like the more appropriate one to reply in, didn't even think to check whether it was a month old :P Oh well.
 
Ah, yes, the Cizeta, one of the three most un-successful supercars created, alongside the Vector W8 adn the Jaguar XJ220.

Just nine of these cars were built, two of which belong to the Sultan of Brunei. One of the main criticisms of this car was its width - having a mid-mounted transverse six-litre V16 sounds nice on paper, but in reality this made the car simply too wide.

Cizeta chose to build the tubular chassis in-house, which sent the cost of the car up, and the orders down. By the early 1990s a global recession had hit, and the Moroder V16T faded.
 
I didnt see you mention this!

Cizeta was the old Diablo! Gandini designed it in order of Lamborghini itself to create a new Countach in 1988, when it was showed to Lamborghini it was rejected cause it was just taken over by Chrysler in 1989 and they thought it was TOO OUTRAGIOUS (lambo too outragious????) and designed the Diablo in Chicago themselves, thats why they resemble alot.

Mororder bought the original model and the molds from Gandini and bought a factory and managed to build a few Cizeta's before going down in 1994.

If Crysler wasnt in the game, most likely the Cizeta would've been the Diablo as we know it, tho with a V12.

PS. They are EXTREMELY expensive today, due its absurdity, and the fact its absolutely one of the most exotic cars ever build and with a total of 9 Cizeta's you will be lucky ever to buy one, if you can, lets hope you have about $1,5 million in cash or stock.

Personal I think its a marvelous car, one of the most beautiful (especially technical) and absurd cars ever made. I really got a feeling for it (more than with the Diablo) so I also was VERY happy when I won it in GT4.
 
I had heard of the thing before, even to the extent of separation on the engine.

Must get the car out on the road in GT4 tonight.
 
First read my previous post, here's some more confirming info:

Claudio Zampolli started Cizeta in the mid-eighties and had his first prototype ready in 1988. He employed Marcello Gandini, who is famous for his work with Lamborghini which included both design of the Countach & Miura. Gandini decided to use a previous Lamborghini design for the Cizeta supercar after a mix-up with the Lamborghini design department. Upon recieving Gandini's design for a Countach replacement, Lamborghini took the work and altered it heavily, including the removal of the famous notched rear-wheel arches. Frustrated with Lamborghini, Gandini sold the design to Cizeta who offered to stay with the orginal design theme.

Cizeta strived to get much needed attention during the car's 1988 release. They did this by offering a car with a never before seen drivetrain which was a clever marketing scheme to propel sales. What made the Cizeta so special was the engine and its placement. This car takes Muira theme one step futher! Never before had the world seen a V16 engine mounted in a transverse layout. Such a setup was neccessary due to the long length of the engine.

Essentially, two V8's were grafted such that the timing mechanisms shared the center space. The power is taken from inbetween the V8s and run into the longitudinally mounted transmission. This makes the engine and transmission from a T, hence the designation V16 T.

Designing and implementing a new engine was a huge feat, especially for an upcoming manufacturer. Most of the components were machined by companies that specialize in limited production pieces, such as componentry for f1 cars. Cizeta then assembled all these components, including interior, to make a complete car in thier own workshop.

Exclusivity paid a large role for the V16T. This was a car that was made perhaps within too small a market. Only the very wealthiest people, such as the Sultan of Brunei, had enough money and interest to buy such an expensive car. On top of this, Cizeta had no race history or company heritage to build upon. For these reasons only 10 cars were ever ordered from the factory, the Sultan owns two of them.
 
Red Raevyn
I don't like the back end's look from a front 3/4 view. Looks... funny, and the rear wheels look strangely small.
Ever look at a Countach up close? Small wheels too.

heh
 
That car has a very weird H pattern shift.
cizeta.jpg
 
electrikoptik
That car has a very weird H pattern shift.
cizeta.jpg

Not really if you're talkin in racing terms.
On a circuit you will almost never use 1st gear (only to pull of the line), and you will vary alot between 2nd/3rd and 4th/5th.
 
The shift patern looks like the 'dog leg' pattern found on E30 BMW M3s and the Porsche 911 upto the mid eighties, though i'm not 100% sure.
 
I recall a white Cizeta Moroder made the cover of Motor Trend magazine back around 1989-90. I think Road & Track possibly had a road test as well. Can anyone produce copies of magazine covers for MT and R&T?

* [Edit: It's the March 1989 copy. (Damn! My Algebra teacher probably took that one away from me!) :D]

http://www.mtdemocrat.com/articles/2005/02/21/road_beat/2001/e0830_a.txt
Moroder earned his money in the music business writing film scores and music such as the Flashdance movie soundtrack. Before Moroder was in the car business, I had breakfast with him and his fiancee, who was my client in my other life in Los Angeles. It was one of those power breakfasts at the Polo Lounge at the Beverly Hills, Hotel. I didn't pickup the check.



I'd forgotten all about this little not-quite-a-Diablo-but-different-clone. With only 9 produced, it hadn't a chance to achieve "fanboy status" in my high school at the time.

Here's to my quest to win one once I get my hands on a copy of GT4 after work today...Of course, that might be difficult, since I'm trying to avoid this part of GTP until I'm border or confused with the game!
 
Italians have really nice styling, bugatti, lancia, alfa , seat, ferrari, lamborghini even some fiats have such lovely attention too detail you can always tell an italian car...............long live ital design 👍


I have always wanted one of these

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akak
Italians have really nice styling, bugatti, lancia, alfa , seat, ferrari, lamborghini even some fiats have such lovely attention too detail you can always tell an italian car...............long live ital design 👍

and the french and spanish :)
 
akak
Italians have really nice styling, bugatti, lancia, alfa , seat, ferrari, lamborghini even some fiats have such lovely attention too detail you can always tell an italian car...............long live ital design 👍


I have always wanted one of these

SEAT auto emoción

Seat is a spanish brand my friend
 
zenuvil
SEAT auto emoción

Seat is a spanish brand my friend

im sorry i didnt mean too offend, your obviously a seat fan

may god cast great bolts of lighting on my sorry ass :)

Shows how good the seat designers are i thought there were italian!
 
Sven
So, only 9 were built, huh? That's pretty neat to have it in the game then.

He'll have to start up the production line again, after people get interested in it from GT4 :dopey:

I dont think anyone would want it after driving the thing in gt4... It handles worse then a wet sponge in an ice rink. 'tis the queen of understeer. 👎
 
I don't think the GT4 version handles all that bad. You just have to learn how to drive it. As soon as the front wheels start to dig in, floor it and it will just whip around the curves.

It handles better than the Zondas. That's for sure!
 
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