CLOSED POLL: The Photomode Competition 106 (W: StrayShadow)

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THEME: Realism

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Further explanation of the theme, provided by first-time winner Beeblebrox237:

"We've seen this theme in the 2.0 Competition, but it has yet to be brought here. I want to see the most realistic, unedited shot that it is possible to take using GT5."


CARS: Any
LOCATIONS: Any
PHOTOTRAVEL: Yes
UNIQUE RESTRICTIONS: Make 'em realistic!


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Please, ensure you read and understand all requirements for this competition. Failure to follow
the rules may result in disqualification. If you have questions, send me a Private Message.
  • Do not vote for your own entry.
    [*]Do not try to sway the poll.
    [*]In the event of a tie, a 24 hour poll is created.
    [*]In the event of a second tie or a tie in the final H2H poll, Judge's vote is the deciding factor.
    [*]Please, view each image in it's full size, before voting.
    [*]Poll consists of the Judge's favourite 25 images. For H2H weeks, 12 per poll.
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Yeah, no problem, I'll be providing feedback on every entry in a day or two. :)
 
just a heads up, you have this

CARS: Standard cars only (see desc.)
LOCATIONS: Where else? Monaco!
PHOTOTRAVEL: Pfffft!
UNIQUE RESTRICTIONS: See above


when it should be this:

CARS: Any
LOCATIONS: Any
PHOTOTRAVEL: Yes
UNIQUE RESTRICTIONS: Make 'em realistic!



also, why isnt my entry in the poll? did i miss a rule or something?
 
09fordfx4
also, why isnt my entry in the poll? did i miss a rule or something?

There are 25 spots in the PMC poll ans there were more than 25 entries. The judge may not have liked yours as much as the ones in the poll :)
 
There are 25 spots in the PMC poll ans there were more than 25 entries. The judge may not have liked yours as much as the ones in the poll :)

wow... really? thats how they do this stuff?

👎👎👎👎

guess i wont be participating anymore.

not that any of you will care lol.
 
Yep, that's how it works, each poll has a size limit and the judge for the week gets to choose which of all the entries make it into the poll. Trust me, it's not an easy task being judge and depending on how many people enter and how good the entries are it can be a real headache having to leave out some of the entries. That's all part of the challenge - getting your shot into the poll in the first place. :)
 
And it's really hard to judge (from an entrants perspective) what will get in. Especially being new. This week I thought for sure all of mine were really strong candidates and as you can see from my previous post, none of them made it lol.

Last week I spent about 3 minutes on each one and make about every single poll. And they weren't nearly as good.
 
It's not a perfect system, but it works well, and gives incentive (and an added challenge) to those participating. Judging is all part of the fun; and seeing as how it's someone's personal theme each week, why not let them choose which entries best represent it?

The number is based on rough participation numbers; in the first few weeks, we had well over 80 entries for PMC and 2.0 (PMC had over 120 the first week). Making it a set number (25/15 for PMC/2.0, two sets of 12/8 on H2H weeks) not only makes the poll creation easier on the hosts, but it also ensures a better, more competitive spread of the votes. Having 50 entries, where 30 don't even garner a vote, just creates more work.

Instead of taking the defeatist approach, why not continue taking part; a lot of members will tell you that regular competition participation is one of the key ingredients in getting the best from Photomode 👍. There's also handy tutorials too, this being just one of many. As someone who's been doing this since the early days of GT4, I can say with absolute certainty that I've seen people grow into absolute powerhouses over time!
 
Instead of taking the defeatist approach, why not continue taking part; a lot of members will tell you that regular competition participation is one of the key ingredients in getting the best from Photomode 👍. There's also handy tutorials too, this being just one of many. As someone who's been doing this since the early days of GT4, I can say with absolute certainty that I've seen people grow into absolute powerhouses over time!

im not going to continue taking part because its a waste of time imo.

clearly having people pick entries is a flawed system when so many good entries were left out, and some of the lesser entries got in. makes no sense whatsoever. photos that will get zero votes are in, and photos that would get votes aren't.

no offense to anyone, but some of the ones picked look nothing like realism to me. whereas some that got left out do.

just my opinion, and i know you folks wont care if i dont enter anymore as it really makes no difference. im just not the type of person to have my opinions unheard.



happy holidays everyone.
 
Wow. You do realize that if you win one you get to pick them right? Should be inspiration enough lol.

Almost every post I have seen you make is pretty negative. Been a little to cold up north or what?
 
im kind of in the same lines with 09fordfx4 - but then again I also do live up north and its fiddily dark in here .. ;) Have noticed that some good entries have been left out in favour of not so good ones lately. That is the name of the game, but It can be frustrating if one does not have the same style / taste as the judge. I personally have noticed im very much in the lines of the results of the polls, but not always so much with the judges decisions. :grumpy: My entries are usually somewhere in the middle and very often the type of entries that you either like or not so personally i havent had any disasters. This week i must admid I was a bit surpriced with both entries dropping from the poll - the SL in the 2.0 and the GT-R here.. :(

Just have come to think that I hope the name on the left of the entry doesnt play too big of a role when choosing the poll entries..:nervous:

PS. Was tough to choose between The AMG and The Bow Tie. Guess my love for american muscle made the difference here..;)
 
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I was thinking, will we have photoshop comps back? I'd love to participate there! :)
 
^^ I'd love the PS Comps back! :D

Can I chip in with a bit of a critique?

Fat Buff: It's a great shot, honestly, but take into account the theme: Realism. Your shot is directly overhead, on an apex - now how is that realistic? Being realistic - to me anyway - is not purely about how good the car looks, it's also about where the viewer is. But as I say, great shot. 👍

09fordx4: Again, great shot. The only thing that lets it down is the choice of car. Look at how jaggied the wheel arches are - they don't look realistic! Not your fault I know, it's the way the car is modelled after all, but if you'd paid attention to that when viewing the image and changed the model, you probably would have made the poll imo. BUT DON'T JUST COME ON HERE AND SLATE THE PROVED SYSTEM BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T MAKE IT THIS TIME. As someone said above, plenty of members here who are now 'powerhouses' (awful term, but it seems to be doing the rounds recently) started in exactly the same boat you are in now. It was a great shot, but unfortunately didn't suit the theme. 👍

All in my honest opinion as always! :)
 
I so much wanted to put my vote on the AMG...... very close to realism 👍,
I could be mistaken as it might be the steering is on full lock but why oh why that camber!?! :ouch: I'm yet to experience a moment where I'll say "Damn that stance does it for me!" ....am I missing something when it comes to collapsed suspension and splayed rims? Nonetheless still a good shot for the theme.

Went for SMfans Dodge 👍
 
Wow. You do realize that if you win one you get to pick them right? Should be inspiration enough lol.

Almost every post I have seen you make is pretty negative. Been a little to cold up north or what?

I'll never win one. And I know that.
Just saying since I've been here there have been tons if great entries left out when pretty boring ones got in. Doesn't seem right.

And if you think my posts are negative, that's probably because this forum isn't that great. I'm on about 50 forums, about 10 of them I frequent daily (I have a boring job where there isn't much work) and the way this forum does things is quite baffling. But hey, it seems to work for you guys so keep at it.

Ill just stick to posting my photos in my gallery where no one will comment on them.

Have a nice day.
 
^^ I'd love the PS Comps back! :D

Can I chip in with a bit of a critique?

Fat Buff: It's a great shot, honestly, but take into account the theme: Realism. Your shot is directly overhead, on an apex - now how is that realistic? Being realistic - to me anyway - is not purely about how good the car looks, it's also about where the viewer is. But as I say, great shot. 👍

09fordx4: Again, great shot. The only thing that lets it down is the choice of car. Look at how jaggied the wheel arches are - they don't look realistic! Not your fault I know, it's the way the car is modelled after all, but if you'd paid attention to that when viewing the image and changed the model, you probably would have made the poll imo. BUT DON'T JUST COME ON HERE AND SLATE THE PROVED SYSTEM BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T MAKE IT THIS TIME. As someone said above, plenty of members here who are now 'powerhouses' (awful term, but it seems to be doing the rounds recently) started in exactly the same boat you are in now. It was a great shot, but unfortunately didn't suit the theme. 👍

All in my honest opinion as always! :)

I never said my photo deserved to be picked, simply said lots of good ones/better ones don't get picked. I'll probably never make it If I continue entering, an that's fine. But other entries that are good get left out and it's stupid. You may think its a good system, but it's not.
 
I'll never win one. And I know that.
Just saying since I've been here there have been tons if great entries left out when pretty boring ones got in. Doesn't seem right.

And if you think my posts are negative, that's probably because this forum isn't that great. I'm on about 50 forums, about 10 of them I frequent daily (I have a boring job where there isn't much work) and the way this forum does things is quite baffling. But hey, it seems to work for you guys so keep at it.

Ill just stick to posting my photos in my gallery where no one will comment on them.

Have a nice day.

Ok. Now it makes sense.
 
I never said my photo deserved to be picked, simply said lots of good ones/better ones don't get picked. I'll probably never make it If I continue entering, an that's fine. But other entries that are good get left out and it's stupid. You may think its a good system, but it's not.

Ok mate. 👍 No hard feelings.
 
You dont get the purpose of all this here fordfx!

We all do this just for fun! You on the other hand take this way waaayyyy to serious.
The system works great and we had many different winners in all competitions. But I never saw someone winning a comp with his first Entry!
That's just the normal way. Schumacher didnt won a championship in his first year!? Or did he?

So that isnt the problem!
I would say it's your attitude that needs to be changed, not the system here.
 
Here's my feedback, sorry for the delay. I hope it is helpful and not too negative, I tried to be constructive. If you want more feedback than what's here, please PM me with your entry, and I'll give you as much as I can. :cheers:


This is a good shot, no doubt, but I felt that the angle wasn't very realistic. I don't think that it fits the theme very well, other than that it's very good. 👍


This is not, as a whole, a bad shot, but I don't like the composition very much. The car is touching the edge of the frame, which is not very good looking, and the shot is straight on. If the car had been further up and to one side, and there had been a different angle, it would have made it into the poll. As it is, the composition is a bit boring. However, the lighting is very good, as is the toning.


While realistic, this shot was not included for two reasons. First, I thought the exhaust was a bit ungainly and not very realistic. Second, the car seemed a bit out of focus at the back. Everythign else was great!


This one was close, but it didn't get in for a couple reasons. First, the car itself was a bit dark, and hard to see. Second, and this really comes down to personal taste, I didn't like the modifications, nor did I find them especially realistic.


I'm not a fan of this shot. It's fairly realistic, yes, but the composition draws the eye up and away from the car, which is very hard to see in the first place. It would have been better without any car, just a photo of the buildings.


As above, it's fairly realistic, but the composition isn't very exciting. If the shot had been zoomed in more with a bit of angle on it, it probably would have made it in the poll.


This shot was very close to being in the poll, however I cut it in part because of the pixelation caused by the smoke. That detracted from the image as a whole, but I thought the rest was very good. You did a great job of making the headlamps look very realistic. :cheers:


This photo wasn't included in part due to car choice. The NASCARs have very rounded, featureless bodies, covered in stickers, so it's hard to find a good angle. In this shot, the car looked boring, and the overall composition and toning were a bit lacking as well.


This photo suffered from what I thought to be an overly simple composition. It would have been better if more of the drifting action was shown, as well. The lighting was certainly realistic, but the fact that the car was almost perfectly centred made it look a bit boring.


Here, the shot was let down by the fairly drab colours and that thing at the left. I don't know what it is, but including it didn't work for me.


Again, composition. The car was dead centre, and there was naught else very interesting in the photo. The slight fisheye effect distorted the car's pretty lines, as well. I would put the camera higher up and far away next time you're taking a shot like this. :)


If there was a 26th spot in the poll, this shot would occupy it. It's very, very good, and very realistic, but the wheels and colour aren't quite as realistic as they could be.


This shot was simply too dark for me to consider it. I wanted to see more of the car, not just the headlamp. Perhaps next time the car could be halfway in the light?


Unfortunately, your shot was a victim of PD. The roughly modelled people and furniture undermined the realistic look of the car, so the shot as a whole is clearly from GT5. Also, I would have liked to see more of the car, without anything in the way.


As with a few others, this shot was simply too dark. The overall feel is very artistic, but not my cup of tea. I'm drawn to look at the black nothingness where the number plate would be, making it feel even darker.


This is one of the last shots that I eliminated. In part, I felt that the angle wasn't entirely realistic, but more importantly the brightest bits of the photo felt a bit glowy, so the sharpness is compromised.


It's too dark! I can hardly tell what kind of car it is. It's not very realistic as far as I can see, because most of the photo is total blackness.


Now, i realise that you felt a little offended by the fact that I didn't include your photo in the poll. While not a bad shot, I didn't think it was a good as some of the others, nor did I think it was especially realistic. The composition was excellent, however the overexposed sky, neon paint, and near incompatibility of the green car with the brown landscape conspired to create a lack of uniformity in the toning of the shot. There was almost no mood, which made the shot seem one-dimensional and amateurish, despite the excellent composition and sense of speed. I apologise for any offence I have caused you, and want to encourage you to keep trying with the competitions. When I first started entering, about a year ago, my shots were terrible. Really, really awful, but I kept at it, and this was my first time judging. Eventually, you'll win a competition :)👍


This shot was one that I was close to putting in the poll, however it seemed a bit drab and overexposed. The toning was grey, the sky very bright, and the composition a tad boring.


Here, you nailed the realism, but unfortunately the composition isn't quite as good. It's a bit boring, and the angle is slightly unnatural. Also, the car is a bit dark; I would have preferred it to be lighter.


This was a really well lit shot that was let down by the fact that there was a fence in the way. While I didn't like that, everything else was spot on.


This shot was a bit dull, too dark, and not realistic enough for me. It's not bad, but I think that the composition could have been made more interesting. Also, the warm filter darkens the photo, and allows the light to dominate. I don't think that the filter was necessary.


This shot wasn't included partly for the modifications, and partly for the lack of an interesting composition. The hood pins are ungainly, and the car shouldn't be so centred. I would recommend that you play with more interesting angles.


I think that the exclusion of this shot was my personal taste. I didn't like the angle or composition much, thought the toning, colours, and lighting were very good.


This shot needs quite a few improvements, in my opinion. First, the person should not have been in shot. He's very pixelated and simple, and undermines any realism the shot may have had. Second, I would like to see a better sense of speed, You can do this by using panning mode 3 and a low shutter speed. Finally, the bit at the top of the photo is very distracting for me, the shot would look nicer with that cut out.​
 
You dont get the purpose of all this here fordfx!

We all do this just for fun! You on the other hand take this way waaayyyy to serious.
The system works great and we had many different winners in all competitions. But I never saw someone winning a comp with his first Entry!
That's just the normal way. Schumacher didnt won a championship in his first year!? Or did he?

So that isnt the problem!
I would say it's your attitude that needs to be changed, not the system here.

Exactly, I'm happy that I made the POLL and got 3 votes! :)
 
Thanks for the response beeble.. I have to learn from my mistakes somehow..sadly I have a shot that matches the criteria you described for a better photo...ah well
 
Well, I'm glad I made the poll, altough I got no votes. :)
I didn't think I would make it, but x 2 is pure magic. :drool:
 
I love that RX7 with the fence :D Looks like a spectator shot. But I absolutely understand the arguments and choices of the judge. It's awful to be the judge btw :lol:

there's at least 1 shot completely irrealistic in the poll :)
 
Thanks for the feedback! I think that is a very fair critique. 👍 👍 👍

I thought my shot looked pretty realistic, it never came into mind that the angle of the shot wasn't. So thank you!
 
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