Closing Seasonal Events -- Why?

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I'm a little disappointed in PD for placing an expiration time on some of the Seasonal Events. It is the perfect venue for challenges like GT Academy, time trials, and drift trials -- where we're competing against one another to determine a winner. But to me it is unacceptable to add additional A-Spec content (essentially additional Special Events) which the game needs, and then remove it.

I like to enjoy the nuances of the game e.g. tune cars, photo mode, course maker, browse the UCD, compare specs etc. (all while enduring the brutal load times in between each screen). I don't have a lot of free time in the first place, and I've always enjoyed GT allowing you to play the game at whatever pace you like. Now though, I'm feeling rushed to get these events in before they expire--the rewards are too good to let them pass by, which I like.

I don't understand why PD would spend 5 years making a game to remove strictly A-Spec content.

Does any other game/media do this? Do you buy a blu-ray or dvd to have certain scenes delete if you haven't watched the movie in its entirety?

What are your thoughts?
 
You can't really comapare downloadable content to scenes on a DVD... it's not like you're GT5 disc will become blank by the end of the year. This is BONUS content, be happy it exists. Be happy it is being replaced immediately.

Why rush? Do what you can, when you can. If you struggle to get 5 events done every week then how are you going to get 50 done after 10 weeks of them not being deleted.
 
iNiff
You can't really comapare downloadable content to scenes on a DVD... it's not like you're GT5 disc will become blank by the end of the year. This is BONUS content, be happy it exists. Be happy it is being replaced immediately.
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I've tried to point out that many of the events are appropriately categorized as "seasonal" or "bonus." A-Spec material, in my opinion should persist.

iNiff
Why rush? Do what you can, when you can. If you struggle to get 5 events done every week then how are you going to get 50 done after 10 weeks of them not being deleted.
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Good point -- I still haven't finished GT3 or 4! Anyway, I like to retain the option to finish when I'd like.
 
I think the idea is to keep you coming back. If there's new events every week or two, you have to keep checking in, you have to keep racing, you have to keep buying and modding cars, theoretically. That's entirely by design, I'd say. And a damn good idea on PD's part. How do you keep a game relevant? Keep adding content, but make it time sensitive!
 
Kwicko
I think the idea is to keep you coming back. If there's new events every week or two, you have to keep checking in, you have to keep racing, you have to keep buying and modding cars, theoretically. That's entirely by design, I'd say. And a damn good idea on PD's part. How do you keep a game relevant? Keep adding content, but make it time sensitive!
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I would like to have the events still there but perhap for no or very little Cr...'

Some of the races were so good I would consider keeping the car tuned for the restiction so that when someone came over I could show the the race and let them live the thrill of earning that 1st place...

I'm looking at you Skyline on SSR5!!!
 
I really like the way they are doing the seasonal races.
I preferred the 2nd set that had restrictions to make the races a challenge for the first week and lifted the second week for us not so amazing racers. But I did enjoy trying really hard to achieve the golds in the first week. then went back and finished the last 2 the second week. 2 weeks is more than long enough to get 5 races out of the way.

I'd be upset if we paid for the additional content and they removed it after time, but it's free additional content so I'm very happy with it.
 
It is just a shame that the events cannot be downloaded into GT Life. In this way PD could undo the lack of manufacturer events and add in events of varying difficulty that could also be re-run. Other games have managed this (for free) and it would do a lot to placate the criticism of the XP system.
 
OkeyD
Do you even know what seasonal means?
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As in Football season? That goes on for 10 months. Or the Nascar season for another 10 months? It doesn't just mean one thing you know.
 
Its one of the problems with, and dislikes I have about the game.

As Deve said in the season 4 thread, these should have been in Aspec all along.

That way, which is the best part, the race is ready to go when you are.
Today or three months from now.
Its called "replay value".
 
SuperCobraJet
Its called "replay value".
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Yeah, but they are changed every week.

And lasts two weeks.

It is the best concept of "replay value" I can imagine.

It literally prompts you to come back to game every day/week.

Matter of perception I guess.

BUt it would be nice if they incorporated "finished" events into some imaginary "Mission" section of A-Spec with some appropriate, much smaller XP/Cr awards for replay value.
 
If they left all of the events open a new player will come along in a months time and be at level 20 with at least 5million in the bank after a few hours.

It would make the earlier a-spec races irrelevant.
 
Trismantis
If they left all of the events open a new player will come along in a months time and be at level 20 with at least 5million in the bank after a few hours.

It would make the earlier a-spec races irrelevant.
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Good point. In fact, just the CURRENT set of SE (Seasonal Events) - the ones put up last night, not even including the earlier ones - will get you a total of 3.5 million credits. Deduct the prices of the cars needed and some minimal mods to "guarantee" a 1st-place finish, and you're still going to come out 2.5m or so ahead.

I hit the 20m cap on the first event, and I darn near can't spend the money fast enough at this point (unless I want a useless Ferrari F1 car, that is...)

Just for kicks, I logged in with another account a while back and did just enough of the special events to buy a Mini and do a few mods, and then decided to do JUST the SE, and by the end of the evening, I'd piled up about enough to buy a Formula GT car, and went from a Level 0 to a Level 21 on nothing more than a couple License tests, 3 or 4 Special Events, and 10 Seasonal Events (Rounds 2 and 3 of the Bonus Races).

If the events were left up permanently, a noob could walk right in and become a Level 40 ninja with 20m credits in the bank in a long weekend... (Okay, that's an exaggeration, but not by much!)
 
If you kept all Seasonal Events forever (or at least longer periods of time), that would make levelling up way too easy. You have 10 races available at any time, so, if you start a new game, you can level up to Level 21 or so in about 3 hours with 6 million credits in your account. That level practically lets you do almost everything in the game already.

And that's without touching the real GT Life Races.

Now imagine what you could do, if you had, say, 10*5 seasonal races. That's not how it's meant to be done. You could only do that, if there was way less credits and experience to be earned there.

It's also sort of repetitive, because those challenges are meant to be done with one car mostly, so you wouldn't do them over and over again anyway. (You're not doing the Special Events over and over again either, are you?)

I really like the way it's done now. You have some really fun races (if you don't enter with an overpowered car again), and after you're done, you can pursue the rest of GT Life (chances are you unlocked something with a higher level), and be curious about what challenges next week will bring.
 
StevenDunn99
It is just a shame that the events cannot be downloaded into GT Life. In this way PD could undo the lack of manufacturer events and add in events of varying difficulty that could also be re-run. Other games have managed this (for free) and it would do a lot to placate the criticism of the XP system.
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Quoted for truth !

The seasonal events should be moved to become dealership events when they expire, for much reduced XP/Cr.

Over time it would vastly increase the number of A-Spec/B-Spec races.
 
Does it matter if they replace them with new one's?

There are always more than I have time to do so I'm not losing anything with the old one's expiring.
 
6 months from now, I don't want to have to scroll through a huge list of 20+ seasonal events - imposing a date limit is absolutely fine by me :)
 
Kwicko
I think the idea is to keep you coming back. If there's new events every week or two, you have to keep checking in, you have to keep racing, you have to keep buying and modding cars, theoretically. That's entirely by design, I'd say. And a damn good idea on PD's part. How do you keep a game relevant? Keep adding content, but make it time sensitive!
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Couldnt have said it better myself!

I love the time restrictions, these seasonal events have resurrected the game for me!
 
1251Division
I don't understand why PD would spend 5 years making a game to remove strictly A-Spec content.
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I think you have the wrong understanding of why these seasonal events exist. You are assuming that these seasonal events are "bonus" aspec content that PD gives us out of the kindness of their hearts (or because the game didn't have enough aspec content in the first place and they are making up for it)

They aren't!

It's a business move to _Keep You Playing_. Why? To keep you invested in the game when DLC comes around, you are more likely to purchase DLC. If you've stopped playing you're more unlikely to buy any DLC.

The time limit is to ensure that you keep coming back at least once every couple weeks. It's to re-addict you if you've stopped playing.
 
Now that there are Seasonal Events, all kinds of people are unhappy that they aren't exactly how they would like them to be.

I agree that PD did not create them because they are nice guys, but they (currently anyway) do not cost extra to access them.

Call it a not-cynical-enough view if you want, but for those who are already hooked on GT, these events are free. Or pretty close to it, anyway. That being the case, it kinda bugs me that there's so much beefing about them.

They have become an entitlement program. Give somebody something, and they start to believe that they have a right to it. And they then complain about how they think it should be.

If they start adding all kinds of other content that was not anticipated (by most) when they bought GT5, people will start complaining all about that. The game cost 50 USD. And there is no 'maintenance' charge. I really don't see that there is a world of stuff for people to complain about.
 
Homes
Now that there are Seasonal Events, all kinds of people are unhappy that they aren't exactly how they would like them to be.

I agree that PD did not create them because they are nice guys, but they (currently anyway) do not cost extra to access them.

Call it a not-cynical-enough view if you want, but for those who are already hooked on GT, these events are free. Or pretty close to it, anyway. That being the case, it kinda bugs me that there's so much beefing about them.

They have become an entitlement program. Give somebody something, and they start to believe that they have a right to it. And they then complain about how they think it should be.

If they start adding all kinds of other content that was not anticipated (by most) when they bought GT5, people will start complaining all about that. The game cost 50 USD. And there is no 'maintenance' charge. I really don't see that there is a world of stuff for people to complain about.
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+1

Tired of all of the complaining about this game. It is still the best car game on the planet. Let the kiddies go back to playing first person shooters and leave GT5 to the real racers who appreciate it.
 
i just did these seasonal races and i love em, best part of the game, in my opinon im trying to get all the cars in the game need the more expensive cars so this is a good way to do it thanks pd for adding more a-spec races as im a level 38 b-spec don't really need another b-spec round of races, there is one difficult one in each seasonal event which is good for the competitive people i.e prius race in seasonal #3 in the latest one the i-miev race.
 
well, then remove the name "seasonal" and just call it "bonus events", don't see why they don't archive the older events, make the layout a bit more compact; over time it just means that you'll have more content and races in the game
 
jmke
well, then remove the name "seasonal" and just call it "bonus events", don't see why they don't archive the older events, make the layout a bit more compact; over time it just means that you'll have more content and races in the game
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This is a great solution.

Everyone who is saying that because it is called "seasonal" it should expire is missing the point. I contend that the Bonus races (not the GT Academy, Time, or Drift Trials -- refer to OP) shouldn't even be called seasonal content in the first place.
 
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