Clutch cheaters
- Thread starter MeAgainstYou
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- meagainstyou GTP_MeAgainstYou PureGT_MAY
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- GTP_Leonidae_MFT
I could do that. but what's the point of beating laps that are already morally questionable due cheating? there's nothing to gain in that. except "bwahaha, I beat your cheat laps, lol"-factor. And should PD determine that these laps are invalid due cheating, they will be removed from the leaderboard. we can't speed up the process by whining about it like 6-years old kid in a store when he wants something.
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- Ghost_Drift1
Probably using the PC sim trick of using a Joystick as a shifter. Alot of people started using them on the rally games as the top trigger buttons could be used as the clutch and the forward motion on the stick as the upshift. Hit the stick write and you enable the clutch and the upshift in one very fast motion. The PS3 will take a Joystick. But I have no idea if you can programme it to do that in GT5P. But that doesnt exsplain why the throttle never drops at all. without freez framing the replay I could not tell if it was lifted or not. Only by splitting it frame by frame will I be able to see.
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- Ghost_Drift1
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- rmk700/GTP_rmk700
I would'nt be to sure about PD removing them from leaderboards. A while back Logitech did an NTSC event where the winner gets a DFGT wheel among other prizes and at HSR the winner rode the wall and collected a new DFGT wheel for it and PD did nothing about it.
With hearing GTAcadamy and other special event possibly coming PD needs to get this resolved.
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- Alameda/Califor
- RADracing / RIGGracing
I get the point of the up shift, but in my opinion you also get an advantage in the downshift by not using the clutch and just downshifting without the clutch and instead leftfooting the break while skipping gears through the downshift.
I would post a video of it but have no idea how to edit it with the footpedal shot, shifter shot and the full screen shot all at the same time, in one screen.
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- Alameda/Califor
- RADracing / RIGGracing
Like I said before if it's a glitch in the game that allows it to happen without penalty then it's an advantage anybody can use to thier discretion, decision and not considerdered cheating in the game.
Now if you were competing in a GTPlanet race then it's considered cheating. Since GTPlanet clearly states it in thier own policy, no shortcutting the tracks, at least two wheels on the track, no punting, blocking...etc. and for time trial events no use of clutch.
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- YossiGab , GTP_YossiGab
I think that the chances that PD will remove them from the leader board is very small.
First, PD shall look at those specific replays carefully. I'm not sure that they are looking at those replays in that manner. I assume they look here and there to see the drivers, but not necessarily looking at the gear shifting.
Second, in case they actually see the issue and think it is a problem, they need to explore and understand exactly how it is been done. So it could be that they will say "there is an issue here but we will fix it for GT5 only" or even could be "those guys are the best drivers we saw".
Also think about this - even if it's a flaw in the game, and PD discover this and agree that it should be fixed, still they won't remove them from the leadboard because PD are probably not going to release any GT5P updates until GT5. In that case, if they will delete them from the list then those guys will just do it again and again (because the game allows this).
But - I would like to go back to the actual discussion of "how those guys are doing this":
A lot of people here say - "they are cheaters since they are doing this & that", but actually, no one from this forum has succeeded to replicate what they have done.
So I would like to say that for those people - before you make theories of how they are doing it - try to replicate it in the same way so the replay looks similar.
(Unfortunately, I don't have a PS3 yet, and only have a DFP - of course without a clutch so I can't try it)
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- GTP_TrievelA7X
Well, my point was the GT series makes cars shift to slowly. So there should be an improvement there. Whether or not they give it to people without clutches is, well, up to them.
But if the GT auto clutch is equal, than using a manual clutch will at best, keep you equal, while certainly offering room for error. So many people will flat out not use it.
I wouldn't use something in competition that could cost me time, while offering no benefit, nor would any of the most competitive players.
1? That's 5%
It is an advantage because it offers more precise control. That is why 90% of the top drivers in the WRS use wheels.
Fact is, if you can't run laps more consistently, or faster with a wheel, you haven't practiced with it enough. When I do get a wheel, I expect to run slower laps for a while, because it's a new learning curve. But eventually, you'll be faster, you just have X years (10+ for me) of practice with the controller, versus squat (for me) with the wheel.
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- woohooll
i thought you could do that with the clutch turned off.
or maybe theres some auto-clutch on it to keep you from cheating.
or maybe theres some auto-clutch on it to keep you from cheating.
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- Bristol UK
- GTP_Chris
can someone please close this thread, because no ones stays on topic here and in the end everyone just says, its not cheating, just faster shifting.
yes it is faster shifting but the gameplay doesnt allow you to do that so he must have somehow figured something out = cheating why? = because the gameplay doesnt allow it.
End of story!
Chris
yes it is faster shifting but the gameplay doesnt allow you to do that so he must have somehow figured something out = cheating why? = because the gameplay doesnt allow it.
End of story!
Chris
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- No46_TheDoctor or SSRacingUK
I agree, I wonder if some of the people who have commented here have even read the Original Post?
Sounds like a few have just jumped in with two feet without trying to understand the issue.
If you are 0'00.001 seconds faster, you are faster, simple.
If you gained that 0'00.001 of a second using a cheat then your time should be removed from whatever competition said time was posted in, whether thats the Online Time Trial or a proper competition, after all, what's the point in a leaderboard if it's not accurate?
I'm sure alot of people spend alot of time on Time Trials as, lets face it, it's 50 percent of the game right now, just to have your time beaten by someone who is cheating, you either condone cheating or stand up against it, there is no grey area here people.
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- meagainstyou GTP_MeAgainstYou PureGT_MAY
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