Cockpit view, visuals slower than bumper?

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So i normally race on the bumper cam (or hood cam without a hood), and sometimes for fun i go into the cockpit view on the premiums.

But i honestly have the impressions, everything moves slower in the cockpit view, from a visual aspect,...

You have not the same impression of speed.

Am i the only one, am I crazy, shizo, ....???
 
I can't do the cockpit view. At first I liked it but I feel as if I can't get any proper line in the driver's seat (which is sad).
 
Blitz24
I can't do the cockpit view. At first I liked it but I feel as if I can't get any proper line in the driver's seat (which is sad).
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I also drive alot better in bumper view than on the cockpit view.
 
Its relative to distance between the camera and the ground. The bumper cam is closer to the ground, so there's a better speed comparison between your car and the ground. When you're in the cockpit, you're farther off the ground and there interior of the car blocks the view of the road, which makes it seem as though you're going slower.

If you attached a camera to the front of the bumper of a real car, it would look as though you're going faster through the camera than when you're actually driving it.
 
cplow
Its relative to distance between the camera and the ground. The bumper cam is closer to the ground, so there's a better speed comparison between your car and the ground. When you're in the cockpit, you're farther off the ground and there interior of the car blocks the view of the road, which makes it seem as though you're going slower.

If you attached a camera to the front of the bumper of a real car, it would look as though you're going faster through the camera than when you're actually driving it.
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Agree - and same difference in speed is there in NFS:Shift and Forza 3 from cockpit to bumper/hood view
 
*ibo* S3 Racer
So i normally race on the bumper cam (or hood cam without a hood), and sometimes for fun i go into the cockpit view on the premiums.

But i honestly have the impressions, everything moves slower in the cockpit view, from a visual aspect,...

You have not the same impression of speed.

Am i the only one, am I crazy, shizo, ....???
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Try the RM ZR1 around Indy in cockpit mode. There is a great sense of speed. I can't use it because it shakes so much. But sure feels fast.
 
Gee, you really think the closer to the floor you get the faster it looks? No wonder F1 looks boring from the sky!

/sarcasm
 
I am VERY disappointed in the cockpit view. It truely does no justice for the smoothness of GT5 and it's high frame rate. I purchased a Fanatec wheel for Forza3 with hopes it would work well with GT5 when it was released. Now I sadly feel this was a mistake. I can't stay behind the wheel of any car for more than 3-4 minutes before my eyes blur from all the bumpiness and start to wander to the dashboard which is stable. I think they made the view this way so you would pay attention to the interiors they spent so much time on. I am really surprised this has not caused more of a stir on the forums considering so many people use a wheel. Love the game like crazy and defintely will overlook all the other weird nuances others complain about, but this has really put a damper on my GT5 experience. Unfortunately this will get brushed aside as again not many people have made a stink about it.

Guess I should change my sig.
 
@ Kubalivre - I am not sure but thats the only thing I can come up with why every car's cockpit view acts like your driving a kart at 80mph.
 
I like the camera shake, it's one of the things I miss in iRacing on PC (some PC sims have "g-force simulation", others don't - I always tend to crank it up fairly high in the those that do, such as the various ISI engine sims. And I do the same with the "look to apex" option when one is available).

Yes, in a real car your natural head and eye movements will adjust so you're not actually seeing any excessive shaking (or so I imagine anyway, I've never been in a car doing more than 200 kph), but since I'm not actually in a car but instead parked firmly in a very stationary chair in front of a TV, I like having something in the game visuals that attempts to simulate high speed driving and cornering and the g-forces acting on the driver.
 
Bumper cam looks faster and is also easier to drive faster in that view but feels wrong to me, feels like floating over the race track.
Love the cockpit views and the bumpyness. I stick to cockpit view when ever possible.
 
I use all the views quite often. Cockpit is probably my least liked view mainly because your view is so limited. I know it's supposed to be realistic but in real life you can turn your head to look into turns and many other things differently. Plus with a game, you can never pull off peripheral vision like you can in real life(at least I haven't seen a game that does) so you're really at a disadvantage.

But that's my opinion, and coming from someone who uses the rear cam often just because if it's a race I don't need to have the utmost concentration on cornering I love seeing the rear of the car as I go down the road. It's stupid I know but one of my guilty pleasures.
 
Is it possible for the head shaking to be corrected via update? Maybe have it changed to an option; Brain Mixer or Smoothie you decide.

/sarcasm
 
As I stated before, I didn't like the cockpit view. However, if there was an option to look right or left around the cockpit I would love it because I feel more limited there than the bonnet view. (For me Chase>Bonnet>Bumper>Cockpit).
 
Blitz24
As I stated before, I didn't like the cockpit view. However, if there was an option to look right or left around the cockpit I would love it because I feel more limited there than the bonnet view. (For me Chase>Bonnet>Bumper>Cockpit).
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So far the only option is to use the buttons for left/right view when in cockpit mode, but when you look to one side, you can't see anything else, which is kind of dangerous considering the AI's hard breaking into corners. Well that, and the fact that it's just plain impossible - for me at least - to finger those buttons while concentrating on driving makes this feature pretty useless. I hope that they'll figure out a way to use the eye-tv for head tracking, as this would actually make the cockpit view useful :)
 
I have the right stick setup as my head turner. In between shifts (square & circle) it is very convenient.
 
Bumper cam for me... Wish there was a view in between bumper and hood though. Bumper is a little too low and hood is a little too high for me.

The only time I use cockpit is when I'm racing karts. Only time the view feels right to me.
 
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I get the idea about the closer the camera is to the ground the faster things appear to be moving but on the indy oval in my ZR1 RM the light poles outside the track move past very noticeably slower when inside the cockpit cam compared to bumper cam. I can see things *close to the ground* moving by faster in bumper cam but these are things on the periphery outside the track. That doesn't seem right to me. I could be wrong, but something seems strange there.
 
Oh i could'nt agree more..... I only use the 'in car' view and its hard work on the eyes, some cars worse than others and im finding its hard tuned street cars but still we want it smooth...
I can feel how stiff the car is or how bumpy the track through my finger tips...now i feel like my head is straped to the roll cage, and street tracks with alot of shadows flickering by at speed make it much worse, it does'nt need to be compleatly flat but if the shakeing is at 100% they need to turn it down to about 10%
 
I have no trouble at all using cocpitwiev.. However, when doing the license tests where accuracy is important, I use the bumper cam.. But for realism in races cocpitwiev is the way to go in my book. I agree that the vision is a little bit to limited, but it's a game, so 100% realism is hard to achive. The shake problem is more a way to simulate realism i guess.. And if you have raced on a real track you know that it shakes quite a bit. If the camera was "stiff" I guess it would feel to fixed and hard. Then people would complain on that instead :)
 
*ibo* S3 Racer
So i normally race on the bumper cam (or hood cam without a hood), and sometimes for fun i go into the cockpit view on the premiums.

But i honestly have the impressions, everything moves slower in the cockpit view, from a visual aspect,...

You have not the same impression of speed.

Am i the only one, am I crazy, shizo, ....???
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maybe it is just the persepctive of being an inch of the ground on the bumper cam that makes it appear to have faster visuals than the cockpit view?

record your lap times with same car, same track, same conditions using bumper cam and cockpit. That should tell you a lot.
:)
 
I`m in love with the cockpit view :drool:. The views I use are cockpit with no HUD or map for premiums and hood view with no HUD or map for standards.

When I drive in the cockpit with no HUD I really drive much more naturally, hard to explain but perhaps more realistically :dunce:. I was always slower in cockpit on prologue but in GT5 I set similar laptimes, I`m usually about 3 tenths faster in bumper cam.

I don`t notice a difference in percieved speed between them. That is probally because Im so focused on racing though :scared:.
 

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