Colorado Canyon, USA - MT's TOTY Back-to-Back

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About what I expected. Possibly the best looking truck, close to the Silverado in size, displayed with the tallest regular version they'll make, so expect about 2-3 inches lower for 2WDs and lower tier 4WDs.

As for the Global Ranger and Global Colorado, the former can be called an F-125 it's so close to their cherished F-150, that's why the US doesn't have it, and the latter I don't know enough about. I do have a question though. Weren't the automakers saying that they wanted full-on global companies? Wasn't that what the "One Ford" marketing was about, yet here we are again with vehicles designed almost exclusively for the US. Why does it seem like nothing has changed. HAS nothing changed?
 
Still way to big, which is a shame. I'd love to get a small truck for a daily driver so I could leave the Volvo in the garage.
 
BKGlover
About what I expected. Possibly the best looking truck, close to the Silverado in size, displayed with the tallest regular version they'll make, so expect about 2-3 inches lower for 2WDs and lower tier 4WDs.
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That does seem like a pretty reasonable drop in height, I'm curious to see how the truck shapes up in regular form. A shame that the grille won't look the same on the lower trims. An easy fix, hopefully.
 
BKGlover
HAS nothing changed?
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A unified global strategy only works for cars that can sell everywhere.

The global truck market sees American trucks as too big. This Colorado would tower over all the other trucks in its class. It's also slightly too wide.

This is compared to the global Ranger, which is already pushing the class boundaries, and is impractical in some situations where pick-up trucks are actually used for work.

Global "compacts" (now practically midsized) are too small for the American market, aren't laid out for American-sized motors (the Ranger may be an exception... it comes with an I5... not sure if your Navara has the same front sub-frame as ours).

It's only a matter of time, though. Another generation and the global pick-up class will be fully-midsized, and there will be no reason not to merge the two classes.

In the meantime, market tastes, as well as barriers like the "chicken tax" in the US, CAFE regulations (that force smaller pick-ups to meet stricter EPA standards) and displacement-based taxation systems in Europe and Asia will keep the two pick-up standards well-separated.
 
niky
CAFE regulations (that force smaller pick-ups to meet stricter EPA standards)
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I've loved that particular bit of ineptitude ever since they announced it as a "compromise" for Obama to get his higher numbers. They closed a massive loophole, and put in an even bigger one in to replace it.
 
Tornado
I've loved that particular bit of ineptitude ever since they announced it as a "compromise" for Obama to get his higher numbers. They closed a massive loophole, and put in an even bigger one in to replace it.
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They're never going to go against Detroit, whatever party is in power. :D

As for "hates", that's a yes and a no. While CAFE makes things difficult for small cars, the loopholes built into it are custom-tailored to protect the all-important big truck market of the Domestic manufacturers.
 
BKGlover
More proof yet the US Government hates the automobile.\.
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The automakers wanted that. It made it so they couldn't do the whole "PT Cruise is a light duty truck" schtick, but it also made it so they could build the larger cars/trucks the American market continually demands and not have to worry nearly as much about those cars dragging the overall CAFE number down. It was a tradeoff that they honestly made out like bandits over. CAFE numbers get to go up so Obama wins, but the American market doesn't have to go through a round of vicious downsizing like it did in the mid-1980s (and the disastrous sales that followed for GM and to a lesser extent Ford, if not Chrysler).



Any chance of S-10 sized trucks becoming a thing again vanished overnight, and sports cars were seriously hit as well, but otherwise everyone made out well. Except hardcore environmentalists, I suppose.
 
Regardless, it is absolutely 🤬 idiotic for anything but greed. BUT, when greed runs the world, what's to be expected. The money won out, giving the environmentalist and the enthusiast firm middle fingers, and catering to those with the money who see driving as a chore, as a annoyance.

Dammit....I need to calm down....
 
CAFE is a mess of stupidity anyway. The S-10 was an excellent size for anyone not pulling or hauling super heavy stuff. This, the Toyota Tacoma, anything else pretending to be a compact pickup these days is too big.
 
Even Thor wants me to get one. And Thor has always said he can't see me driving a truck, ever. I hate it when Thor is right.





*Thor is my Dad
 
I remember seeing similar looking Chevy Trucks in Saudi Arabia back in 2006. Took awhile to catch up.
 
Chevy Colorado ZR2 concept
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ZR2? GIMMIE GIMMIE GIMMIE!

The Colorado and Canyon are absolutely fantastic and are really taking the segment up a few notches. But, since everyone's doing an off-road concept, the ZR2 doesn't blow anyone's doors off. Still, they should make it happen. Eleventy times over.
 
That isn't even a shock at all. The S-10 had the ZR2 off road package and the previous Colorado had some off road package as well (the package code eludes me at the moment, though). It was a given that GM would tout some sort of off road package for this thing. I have a feeling that if GM green lights the ZR2 concept, the V6 will be offered for it.
 
Connoissuer
How the hell do you park these giants?
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Having actually seen them in person now, they really aren't that big so you just park it like everything else. And assuming you're from America, how do you not see hundreds of pick-ups parked a day?
 
Connoissuer
How the hell do you park these giants?
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The same way that people have parked pickup trucks for years. And for what it's worth, smaller doesn't always equal easier to park. My mother finds her Chevrolet Traverse easier to park and drive than her Trailblazer because the Traverse's steering is far more responsive than that of the Trailblazer.
 
Joey D
Having actually seen them in person now, they really aren't that big so you just park it like everything else. And assuming you're from America, how do you not see hundreds of pick-ups parked a day?
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Haven't seen one in person yet. The pictures posted here make it look like a mammoth.

Plus I just got my liscense last October and I'm driving this POS Civic which is easy to manuver in and out of tight spaces.

Which was why I was asking how people park these damn things.
 
Connoissuer
Haven't seen one in person yet. The pictures posted here make it look like a mammoth.

Plus I just got my liscense last October and I'm driving this POS Civic which is easy to manuver in and out of tight spaces.

Which was why I was asking how people park these damn things.
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I'm not talking about the Colorado, I'm talking about pick-ups in general. All of the full-sized trucks are bigger than the Colorado and people manage to park those just fine.
 
That's the other thing - Even in a Sierra and Silverado, there are still other trucks that are bigger than that, both in height and length.

Tends to be the folks in the Q7s and GX470 that park the worst, in my experience.
 
A saw two Canyons over the past few days, and it's a 9.5/10ths Silverado.

...GM, what was the question again?
 

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