Woah, what?! If you think rFactor sucks and Dirt 3 is good, I'm not sure that PC sim racing is for you.
Well I'm leaning toward maybe at this point, I don't want to get into the subscription based stuff AT ALL, and the graphics and physics of rFactor seemed dismal at best, possibly because I was running the vanila version that came with my G27, so it might not have been a fair judgement. A. If it hasn't improved significantly from that, it's bogus B. If it has to the point where it makes GT5 look like an arcade game, I was unfair.
I'm seriously considering NFS S2 on PC (is it on PC) despite knowing it won't be anywhere near as good as GT5
Not that Dirt 3 isn't a good game, but that's just it, it's a game and not a sim.
Yeah I totally get that, but it's still nearly up there with Forza 4, which is nearly up there with GT5, so, it can't be 'that' far off can it?
Richard Burns Rally is still the best rally sim to most people's minds.
Do you mind me asking why you don't like rFactor?
Mostly stated above, but to summarize, subscription payments (could've misinterpreted that), crap graphics, physics (I have a monster PC, believe me it's the game that's at fault, or atleast the texture packs in the vanila possibly unpatched game), and variety... I could also be confusing this somewhat with iracing, but iracing I know there's almost no variety, and subscription payments, but I never played it, rFactor I'm 100% certain I played today, again might not've got the full experience, please let me know if it looks like I haven't.
It's pretty much the most widely played sim there is, Simbin stuff and iRacing are also big but neither of them can match rFactor for value and mod friendliness. If you've only tried the demo and don't know that it's pretty much designed to be modded then fair enough,
Yes I had a sneaking suspicion, but wasn't willing to play that before looking into open source games / AAA games further for the PC, remember games like Drive 5, and MidTown Madness? Yes, they are mostly 'games' but I thought that since I haven't looked hard for 15 years there might be some new developments.
the base cars and tracks aren't great but get some mods installed and it's a whole different story.
Anyway, back on topic, I keep my eye out for creative sim hardware mods but I've never seen a wheel like the one you're suggesting, and I highly doubt you'll find one that'll work with consoles unless it's for GT5 (because as far as I know, GT5 is the only console sim that allows a second controller to control things while a wheel is being used). Of course that doesn't mean such a mod doesn't exist, but if it does then it's not good enough to be talked about... The DFGT is a pretty good wheel in it's own right,
Indeed, I owned one for a year, and I even think it has plus points over the G27, in several areas, but now that I've used the G27, it's quieterness amongst a few other things mean I can't go back (easily)
maybe not as good as the TM wheel but to modify a wheel as expensive as that to add DFGT RA menu controls (for example) is almost insane, given that only one console sim could use it and PC sims don't have any controls designed to be used with it, and you'd therefore be better off with a TM wheel with a separate button box, really.
Good point, but then I'm back to where I am with the G27, or less even, because I've set the 6 buttons on my G27 to be RA menu, RA up and RA + on the left side and horn, RA down and RA - on the right side, so that'd make it even less easy to adjust settings on the fly.
Edit- other PC sims/games you could and should try:
Grand Prix Legends (old and tricky to get working, but an awesome classic F1 sim)
Richard Burns Rally w/RSRBR 2012 mod
GT Legends
GTR2
Race 07 (w/Retro pack, GT Power pack and GTR Evo)
Project CARS (you have to pay for pre-alpha access)
F1 2011
NFS: Shift 1&2
Grid (sort of)
Dirt 2 is still a pretty good game
Test Drive Unlimited 2, I suppose
GT5, of course
I know it's basically impossible until PlayStation stop being made basically, but wouldn't Gran Turismo 6 or 7, on the PC, be just the best thing ever? Imagine the graphical cabilities, and mods, wow, that'd be something to see, not to mention no lag with multiplayer, but oh well.
I think that's it, really, these are all the sims and games I have and I find they cover almost every type of motorsport you can think of, and if they don't then a quick google for an rFactor mod often brings something up. iRacing would be nice but as it's a subscription-based service with very few cars and tracks (no Nürburgring either) and no mods, I'm personally quite put off the idea.
Yes I must've had them slightly confused, I'm guessing rFactor is a one off payment of 40 bucks, whilst iRacing is subscription. hmm, yeah, I'll look into those ones, as well as some slightly older games possibly, anything after the G25 was released basically would be good, because I'm sure the G27 could be picked up as that pretty easily.
Thanks for all the input.
