comp to find the ultimate driver & car combo

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đź’ˇ ok i have thought of a way of finding the ultimate driver and car combination:

all you do i pick your favourite car to go round the Nurburgring with, make sure road cars have road tyres nad race cars can have race tyres, find out its power to weight ratio then take a free run round the ring,

you can have any setup in any car (except for tyre restrictions) but faster isn't necessarily better. Then find out your best lap time and write it down, take away the power to weight ratio of the car you used from your lap time and post the score,

who ever can get the lowest number is the best racer & car combo. Someone else can keep a score board if they want as im probebly not on enough to keep the scores up to date. Post your score, the exact car model you used, its power, its power to weight ratio, your lap time and your final score, anyone interested?

1. Take any car
2. Make a note of your car's weight-to-power ratio (a 400hp, 1,000kg car has a rating of 2.500 - 2.5kg per horsepower).
3. Drive it round the 'Ring.
4. Take a note of your laptime and decimalise it (7'12 is 7.2 minutes, for example)
5. Take the weight-to-power ratio away from the lap time (7.200 - 2.500 = 4.700 in this example)
6. That's your score

come on surely someone is faster than this!

Road Cars - Leaderboard
1. GeorgeMorley - BMW M5 '05 - (WPR 3.374 - Lap 7'34) - 4.193
2. senner - Lancia Delta HF Integrale '91 - (WPR 3.071 - Lap 7'25) - 4.346
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Race Cars - Leaderboard
1.Senner- clio sport trophy v6 (WPR 3.563 - lap 7'19) - 3.7547*
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*fastest over all
 
oh didnt find any in a search - so people have had this exact idea before then? what about new people to the forum like me?
 
I dont know of an exact idea but there are countless threads about the fastets laps on the Nurburgring

For people new to this forum like you, just learn to use the search button and learn from other people, trust me if you think your bad i was a million times worse
 
ok well anyone interested can post, anyone got an idea of a different track if nurburgring has already been done?
 
senner
anyone got an idea of a different track if nurburgring has already been done?
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If you want to you could try deep forest i dont think thats been done or if there are any sarthe ones i havent seen them
 
oh didnt relise this has been done so many times, thought i was being original. anyone done trial mountain? thats one of my favorites, if its an easier track lets say no driving aims.
 
Use the search function to see if Trail Mountain has a fastest lap board
 
ok thats been done, lets say sarth I then, ok whos got a score? no driving aids. This isn't just fastest lap though its a competition to see whos got the best driving skills and car combination and a faster cars doesn't mean your going to ge the best score
 
Senners idea is new to me-- It is not just a fast lap thing-- it is more , the power to weight ratio and time equals a score that is new to me. A good idea , I think I'll try it and see what results look like.
 
Yes - senner's plan does seem to be a new twist on the idea to me. I'll summarise, if I may, senner...

1. Take any car.
2. Make a note of your car's weight-to-power ratio (a 400hp, 1,000kg car has a rating of 2.500 - 2.5kg per horsepower).
3. Drive it round the 'Ring.
4. Take a note of your laptime and decimalise it (7'12 is 7.2 minutes, for example)
5. Take the weight-to-power ratio away from the lap time (7.200 - 2.500 = 4.700 in this example)
6. That's your score.

However, I DO think this should be in Spot Races & Lap Time Comparisons, and so there I shall move it.


senner's score ought to be:
6'51 = 6.85 minutes
2.267kg/hp
4.583
 
Hey! I moved this thread! Not you!
 
ok thanks famine you've sumed it up perfectly, do you want to keep a score board as you seem to be very organised!
 
I'm afraid I wouldn't really have the time for it. It's your baby... :D

If you need any help though, give me a scream via PM.

Duke - I spotted that after I posted. So I moved it back, and then back here again. :p
 
Seener,
I'll drive sarthe I in my stock M5 and post the results in this thread later.

George

EDIT :

Just driven Sarthe I in bone stock M5 on sm tires.
Result : Time - 4.21 p/w 3.374 Total score 0.836
 
george either do it properly or dont bother as theres no point in this idea if everyone just posts random times, follow famines rules.
 
Oh does the track matter?

Btw calm down senner

Edit:

Its not a random time
 
oh na im calm just as i said this isn't a normal lap time thing so you may as well do it properly, i supose you could do it round sarth but if we wanna get a proper comp going it has to be round the same track, sorry if i sounded annoyed, im not.
 
senner
ok thats been done, lets say sarth I then
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Ok I Just went by that

EDIT:

Just driven the same M5 around the Ring

Time 7.34 pw/3.374

Score - 3.966



2ND EDIT : If you want to make a proper comp, you could put a scoreboard on post one or make an exel file with scoreboard on it i could do that if you want
 
yeh ok george if want you can make a score boad sorry if i miss lead you, i have no idea how to make one in excel so yeh give it ago.
 
Ok then I'll start now as i have nothing else to do

EDIT : Unable to upload scoreboard of exel apparantly its and 'invalid' file
 
Test file (kk) has uploaded, now working on scoreboard using word

is it better with a high or low score?
 
Is your time 7.34 minutes, or 7 minutes 34 seconds?
 
Thank you Famine for clearing up the score principle. NOW who is the best driver? He who gets the "lowest" score per track? So each track must be represented. Math skills are going to be in doubt on this one for the computations involved should be carried out to the 0.0001 This is the most interesting concept I've seen in a while,however the numbers will stymie most attempts at accuracy methinks.
 
Yes - it ought to be lowest. The lower the time, the better, the higher the weight to power ratio (the more weight each hp has to carry), the better.

George - your rule of changing sexadecimal time to decimal by changing the "'" to a "." contradicts the rule I posted and senner confirmed, to actually convert time into decimal - 7'30 is 7.5, not 7.3 - as any other way won't work.

Example - someone gets 7'59 in a car with a WPR of 4.000. Score is 3.590 by your system. Someone else gets an 8'00 dead in the same car with a WPR of 4.200 - a MUCH bigger achievement, as the car has 5% less effective power, but only gets 3.800, a worse score. In mine/senner's system the scores are 3.983 and 3.800, reflecting the achievement.

I'm going to edit a proper leaderboard into senner's post, and remove yours, so that people know what's going on simply from post #1. Oh, and I can't find where you submitted your Camaro in the thread, other than posting an arbitrary score in your leaderboard.
 
Famine - Sorry, I did'nt quite understand the decimal part.
If you add a scoreboard in post #1 that'll be better anyway
 
If I may be so rude as to suggest a better way to find out the best car driver combo.

In the "time trial Ideas" (page 3 dated May 09 2006, 10:02 PM) I suggested a time trial format

It makes use of "standard deviation" meaning if you mastered a car then you will be able to clock consistently fast times times in taking corners in the same manner each and every time. Please see the posts made there for a detailed explanation.
 
That's fine, but it's a slightly different idea - you're looking at rating people, independent of vehicle, on their laptime consistency. This is looking at rating people's ability on a single-shot lap.
 
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