Complete revision of car purchase and tuning options

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Do you think GT can be like this imagination in the next 10 - 20 years?


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My name is Sascha and I have been thinking about this for a long time and i am glad to post my thoughts here, hoping there are lots of other GTP members that feel the same way i do.

I will try to explain my ideas as good as possible (excuse me if something is misleading or hard to understand because i am not a native english speaker).

Especially given the fact, that Kaz often told us that he dreamed about the future of GT and how to make it even more exciting, i think my ideas fit perfectly. I see the "Gran Turismo World" as an open world where you have different places that you can visit but dont necessarily have to. Comparable to the Test Drive Unlimited games, maybe even with some AI drivers being willing to beat you on a start from red traffic lights from time to time and POLICE that will come into play if you do too much speeding/street racing... ok i am getting off course now, but it helps you to understand my complete imagination.

Regarding car purchase this would mean, that if you want to buy a brand new Audi, you drive to the Audi dealership while lazy or hasty players take a shortcut through the menu screen like we know it from GT6.

(For all my following examples i have chosen "Audi" as the manufacturer, because i am driving one. ;)
But these examples work for all other car manufacturers as well. And thats the best thing about that.)


Now we come to the completely revised car purchase (please note, this would also work without an open world and this feature alone would make a new GT a hundred times better in terms of car purchase).

Instead of buying specific models where the only option to change is the color, when buying a new car players should be able to:

1. Select the type of model they want to drive (Audi A1, A3, A5, A6, A7, A8, also factory tuned sports versions like S4/RS4, S5/RS5, S6/RS6 should be available - the same for Mercedes - AMG, BMW, M-series, Nissan - Nismo etc.)
2. Select the bodywork/car body (sedan, touring, coupe, ideally whatever is factory-provided available for the given model)
3. Select the type of engine (ideally whatever is factory-provided available for the given model)
4. Select the color (ideally whatever is factory-provided available for the given model)
5. Select the interior (ideally whatever is factory-provided available for the given model, but it would be ok to have at least a few different options like carbon (sports style) or leather & wood (luxury style) to choose from. The more the better, especially for those who appreciate the ingame perspective like i do)
6. Select additional body parts like front and rear spoilers (ideally whatever is factory-provided available for the given model)
7. Select wheels/rims (ideally whatever is factory-provided available for the given model)

From that point on, players should also have the option to visit THIRD PARTY car tuners like Abt, Oettinger or MTM (just to name a few) besides the factory tuners to get a truly individual car by choosing between alternate tuning/body parts that are more or less unique to the certain models - wouldnt even bother if there were less body parts available for an Audi A8 compared to "tuner cars" like Honda Civic or Nissan Skyline (i know i am dreaming, but this is what so many players want).

It would be extremely well to also have a place, where you can change the interior for good cash.

Of course you can also buy new different wheels/rims after buying your new car in my vision of an ALL-NEW GRAN TURISMO. Since GT6 was a big step toward the right direction when it comes to the pure amount of available wheels, i would be glad with what we have, but an even wider range would still be fine.

When it comes to buying used cars, players should have two options:
1. Visit a manufacturer and see which used cars are in stock
(stock should change, just like the used car market in older GTs, but these cars should be from the given manufacturer only).

2. Visit a dealership for more or less mixed used cars (not only should the stock change here as well, but also these do need to vary in terms of what they sell. Some dealers sell almost anything, some focus on certain manufacturers, others focus on oldtimers, one sells only japanese cars, another one is specialized in vans, sportscars, whatever, sky is the limit)

That would make it lots of fun to discover "new" used cars.

Aaaaaaand of course players should be able to tune them as well through the before mentioned third party car tuners which leads me to the last point on my wishlist:

IMAGINE if there would be a place like a scrapyard/junk yard where you could buy intact engines from wrecked cars for a reasonable price to have them built into another car!

Ever wanted to put that gorgeous Lotus V8 into a Mini Cooper? We'll see if it fits... But if it does: BOOM!!! Drag strip (or red traffic lights in an open world GT) here i come!!!
 
I think the "open world" part of your idea REALLY doesn't belong in Gran Turismo, or even in Gran Turismo's genre. Menus are much more efficient (at least when they're done correctly). O.O

The car purchase system you suggested seems too cumbersome (because the player would have to make more choices to buy a car), and most of the options provided are already available elsewhere in the game. As it is now, you select the model (1.) and the body (2.) together, and the colour (4.) right after that. Changing the engine (3.) is not implemented, but another thread is asking for that option.

Interior customization (5.) sounds interesting, but it would have to be restricted to material or colour changes (wood or plastic dashboard, leather or fabric seats, etc). Asking PD to model more than one interior geometry for one car would be a waste of resources.

Non-standard spoilers (6.) and wheels (7.) are already available from the GT Auto menu (I think).
 
I think the "open world" part of your idea REALLY doesn't belong in Gran Turismo, or even in Gran Turismo's genre. Menus are much more efficient (at least when they're done correctly). O.O

If you define Gran Turismo as a simple racing game (for me its the one i like the most of all racing games), then you are right. But it is/was famous for being the Real Driving Simulator thats why i mentioned what Kazunori said that he is excited how the future of Gran Turismo will look like and i doubt it will be more cars and more race tracks "only". But besides that, this was only my bigger picture of imagination and not what i was focusing on, my focus was on the car purchase and tuning options. And more cars and tracks are always good. :)

The car purchase system you suggested seems too cumbersome (because the player would have to make more choices to buy a car), and most of the options provided are already available elsewhere in the game. As it is now, you select the model (1.) and the body (2.) together, and the colour (4.) right after that. Changing the engine (3.) is not implemented, but another thread is asking for that option.

Seriously, i spent literally months of my lifetime in browsing the manufacturers for all available cars since GT1. :) But still i would definitely like it to have the full range of choices, especially when it comes to the choice of bodywork/car body and engine. And this part is missing almost completely when it comes to the european manufacturers. Of course, there is an Audi RS6 (sedan) and an Audi RS6 Avant ). But for me personally, there are not enough options to choose from (except the Nissan Skyline and the Mazda MX5 that is^^).

When i buy a new car in game, i want to be limited by available money only (just like in real life), not by having only one option. There are so many dream cars in the world and who would not dream to be able to own them in the exact way they would be perfect for oneself.
Plus, the more options you would have to choose from (cars wise), the more diverse the races would be. The power points system already works quite well, you can have very different cars fighting fierce for the win.

Imagine you buy a car in real life like that:
You: "Hello, i am interested in your newest Mercedes E-Class, as i am looking for the right car for me and my family. Should have enough horsepower and enough space to carry our complete household." ;)
Mercedes dealer: "You want to buy a Mercedes E-Class, newest model? Ok, we have ONE for you. But unfortunately you cant choose the engine, we hope you are ok with that? But you CAN choose the color! That is good, or not?"
You: "Hmm, okay. Is the ONE MODEL you have a sedan or a station wagon? Because as i told you, i need lots of space in my car."
Mercedes dealer: "Oh, you want the E-Class as a station wagon? I am sorry t disappoint you, but we only have a ten year old E-Class as a station wagon in our used car section... you find it over there"


Or even more hilarious:
You: "I want to buy a new Volvo."
Volvo dealer: "Which is the model you are interested in?"
You: "I am not quite sure, maybe the V40 or V60"?
Volvo dealer: "We dont have those. And we dont know if we will ever have them for sale."
You: "Sounds strange... and what about the XC 60?"
Volvo dealer: "Nope."
You: "The XC90?"
Volvo dealer: "Sorry no. We have only one (almost) new car, but its a beautiful one, the C30. And you can choose from three colors."
You: "Good bye!"


Honestly, i would feel fooled in both cases. And thats how i feel, when i browse almost all manufacturers (except Nissan, Toyota, Honda, Mitsubishi and Mazda... sorry if i forgot one).

And by the way, my way to purchase a car could be even less cumbersome than it is ingame today, but it depends on the car you want to buy as well. Lets say you know what you want and what you want is a brand new 2014 Nissan GT-R.

1. You choose the manufacturer: Nissan (if you want to save time, you do this through the menu, as i suggested this should be possible)
2. You choose the model: GT-R
3. You choose the engine: Biturbo V6, 550 HP (you dont have to choose car body, because its a sports car, no additional sedan or station wagon versions available as far as i know)
4. You choose the version: Black Edition, Premium Edition, SpecV (what you like most, depending on your choice the color and/or interior might even be fixed, other cars must not necessarily have this option)
5. You choose which alternate body parts are available (if there are body parts available)
6. You choose the wheels/rims

Ready. And even if it would be 7 or 8 steps, its all a question of well organized menues (you said that). Check the Internet for some car configurators and you have an impression of what i am talking about. It takes only a minute if you dont go too much into detail. And of course you dont need every single detail option that is useless for a game (like cupholders or stuff like that).

Really, instead of scrolling through hundreds of Nissans with dozens of Skylines/GT-Rs (until you find one that you like the most or fits your expectations best) it would be much more intuitive, realistic and rewarding to spend your hard earned credits like that. Because you get the car that you want, not the car that you have to take because its no better or no other option available.

And logically, this "choose the engine"-thing would be for new cars only, the used cars you would have to buy in the engine/color/etc. configuration that they are for sale in the different used car dealerships. This would be, where the engine swap thing came into play.

Interior customization (5.) sounds interesting, but it would have to be restricted to material or colour changes (wood or plastic dashboard, leather or fabric seats, etc). Asking PD to model more than one interior geometry for one car would be a waste of resources.

The interior customization could work with something like colored layers with different looking surfaces, so that no additional interior geometry would be needed. Nothing too fancy here, but hey, if people want their interior to be pink... then it would be cool to give them the option. Decent wood and leather seats? Why not.

Non-standard spoilers (6.) and wheels (7.) are already available from the GT Auto menu (I think).

The range of wheels is okay since GT6. But when it comes to tuning body parts, GT is still ridiculous. I mean, in Need for Speed Underground 2 you already had hundreds if not thousands of different parts for each and every car (might recall that wrong, but i spent days in that menues, trying and testing what looked cool). And that was a PS2 game.

Now that the PS4 is there, there should be some potential left to give us more alternate body parts than only the standard car body and the mostly ridiculous spoilers. Of course this would be a HUGE thing to develop with all the detail that PD puts into its car models, but it would be worth the work, especially because they could finance it very well through micro transactions: some items would be for free, but if you want one of the hundreds of "special spoilers" for your most beloved car, you have to pay ~50 Cent (~50 Yen) to get one.

Sorry for writing a bible, but i hope you get what i am trying to say. Its difficult to write thoughts and imaginations in english. Just to make it clear: This is what i dream of, knowing that it will be years if not decades from now until Gran Turismo (or another driving game will be like that). But even the longest journey starts with the first step. :)
 
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I'm going to "like" this suggestion if for nothing else other than the time, thought and effort you've put into it.

But you're right, the accumulation of all the points you've made would make for an excellent "game".

Gran Turismo is indeed Italian for Grand Tourer (Touring) so to have the ability to "tour" around the environment would be the fulfillment of that goal.
It's called the real driving simulator after all.

The blurb on the GT6 pack says...
A new level of driver freedom - Er, what freedom is that then?
Compete anywhere - Are they sure about anywhere?
A racing world where anything is possible - Are they sure about anything? A bit optimistic I think.

Don't get me wrong though, I still like the game.

Sorry for writing a bible, but i hope you get what i am trying to say. Its difficult to write thoughts and imaginations in english. Just to make it clear: This is what i dream of, knowing that it will be years if not decades from now until Gran Turismo (or another driving game will be like that). But even the longest journey starts with the first step. :)
It's good to have a dream, although maybe it will have to wait until the PS7 to become reality. :)
And your English is just fine.
 
I'm going to "like" this suggestion if for nothing else other than the time, thought and effort you've put into it.

Thank you!

But you're right, the accumulation of all the points you've made would make for an excellent "game".

Thank you again. :)

Gran Turismo is indeed Italian for Grand Tourer (Touring) so to have the ability to "tour" around the environment would be the fulfillment of that goal.
It's called the real driving simulator after all

You are absolutely right, thats what i am thinking all the time! Especially when you keep in mind that there are so many games out there that get even more realistic (graphic wise) with every new version, you have to think about what will be next... And what will be next, if we have fotorealistic graphic in a game (and we all know, Gran Turismo 6 for PS3 is as fotorealistic as a game can get for PS3, with a few flaws of course, but graphic details are simply stunning)???
The answer in my opinion has to be: more and more lifelike content (or unexpected content, as Kaz proved with the Lunar Rover)!!! Two years ago i wouldnt have dreamed to drive a Lunar rover on the moon in GT6 though.

One day it may be that the "game" is in your head, like you are a part of your own imagination with feelings so real, that it needs you to remember its just a game... ok, i am drifting away to far, but from such a radical perspective, its only a small step to use the power that upcoming hardware offers to have more lifelike content/features in a future GT - and why not in the way i am dreaming of?!

The blurb on the GT6 pack says...
A new level of driver freedom - Er, what freedom is that then?
Compete anywhere - Are they sure about anywhere?
A racing world where anything is possible - Are they sure about anything? A bit optimistic I think.

Don't get me wrong though, I still like the game.

Hahaha, i had to laugh really hard. They can use that text again when "my vision of a future Gran Turismo" gets real! Fits a 100% then :D

Somehow its a shame that i obviously never spent enough time to read the message on the back of the box carefully (because i couldnt wait to play), otherwise i would have built that into my argumentation! Hilarious! Only thing i recognized when reading the backside of my GT6 + controller bundle, was a ridiculous typo... it says ENNSTRECKE instead of RENNSTRECKE (which is the german word for racing course/track)! ;)

And i still love the game so much, cant forget that i used two memory cards back in the days for GT2, one being for tuned "street cars" and the other one for "racing cars" and "racing mod" cars.

It's good to have a dream, although maybe it will have to wait until the PS7 to become reality. :)
And your English is just fine.

Yeah, maybe it will be PS7 until then, or PS6 or PS8... who knows... but i hope it will happen within the next two decades at last... which reminds me of this saying: The hope dies last ("Die Hoffnung stirbt zuletzt" in german)... so true.

Finally another big thank you for appreciating my english skills :)
Funny that my stupid english teacher :p thought otherwise, but i still think it was more of a personal dislike he had towards me which was responsible for my really bad english marks in school... but he was an idiot, so i dont care, instead i feel happy for getting your appreciation!
 
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^ No problems friend. Let's hope your GT "vision" comes true. It would then truly be a :gtpflag:

Dr. Strangelove - great name by the way. 👍
 
^ No problems friend. Let's hope your GT "vision" comes true. It would then truly be a :gtpflag:

Dr. Strangelove - great name by the way. 👍

It will come true one day (dont know to which degree) and the world of :gtplanet: will remember and praise :bowdown: Dr. Strangelove! :cheers:

p.s. Now let's stop the fluoridation of our bodily fluids!^^
 
When i buy a new car in game, i want to be limited by available money only (just like in real life), not by having only one option. There are so many dream cars in the world and who would not dream to be able to own them in the exact way they would be perfect for oneself.
Plus, the more options you would have to choose from (cars wise), the more diverse the races would be. The power points system already works quite well, you can have very different cars fighting fierce for the win.

Imagine you buy a car in real life like that:
You: "Hello, i am interested in your newest Mercedes E-Class, as i am looking for the right car for me and my family. Should have enough horsepower and enough space to carry our complete household." ;)
Mercedes dealer: "You want to buy a Mercedes E-Class, newest model? Ok, we have ONE for you. But unfortunately you cant choose the engine, we hope you are ok with that? But you CAN choose the color! That is good, or not?"
You: "Hmm, okay. Is the ONE MODEL you have a sedan or a station wagon? Because as i told you, i need lots of space in my car."
Mercedes dealer: "Oh, you want the E-Class as a station wagon? I am sorry t disappoint you, but we only have a ten year old E-Class as a station wagon in our used car section... you find it over there"


Or even more hilarious:
You: "I want to buy a new Volvo."
Volvo dealer: "Which is the model you are interested in?"
You: "I am not quite sure, maybe the V40 or V60"?
Volvo dealer: "We dont have those. And we dont know if we will ever have them for sale."
You: "Sounds strange... and what about the XC 60?"
Volvo dealer: "Nope."
You: "The XC90?"
Volvo dealer: "Sorry no. We have only one (almost) new car, but its a beautiful one, the C30. And you can choose from three colors."
You: "Good bye!"


Honestly, i would feel fooled in both cases. And thats how i feel, when i browse almost all manufacturers (except Nissan, Toyota, Honda, Mitsubishi and Mazda... sorry if i forgot one).
Just changing the car purchase menu won't add more cars to the game. If you want more cars, you'll have to ask for them in the relevant forum. Also, Polyphony Digital isn't Volvo or Mercedes, or any other car manufacturer. You can't expect them to include every modern Volvo or Mercedes in the game.

And by the way, my way to purchase a car could be even less cumbersome than it is ingame today, but it depends on the car you want to buy as well. Lets say you know what you want and what you want is a brand new 2014 Nissan GT-R.

1. You choose the manufacturer: Nissan (if you want to save time, you do this through the menu, as i suggested this should be possible)
2. You choose the model: GT-R
3. You choose the engine: Biturbo V6, 550 HP (you dont have to choose car body, because its a sports car, no additional sedan or station wagon versions available as far as i know)
4. You choose the version: Black Edition, Premium Edition, SpecV (what you like most, depending on your choice the color and/or interior might even be fixed, other cars must not necessarily have this option)
5. You choose which alternate body parts are available (if there are body parts available)
6. You choose the wheels/rims

Ready. And even if it would be 7 or 8 steps, its all a question of well organized menues (you said that). Check the Internet for some car configurators and you have an impression of what i am talking about. It takes only a minute if you dont go too much into detail. And of course you dont need every single detail option that is useless for a game (like cupholders or stuff like that).
It would be nice to see cars from some manufacturers better organised in GT, but not every manufacturer has enough cars in the game to benefit. For example, if I'm looking for an RX-7, it would be nice if I didnt have to scroll through several pages of MX-5s. Even though the current system could be better, it works well enough, even for large lists like in Nissan or Mazda.

Ex.
1. Choose manufacturer (Mazda), displays list of Mazda "models"
2. Choose "model" (RX-7), displays list of RX-7 "variants"
3. Choose "variant" (RX-7 Type R (FD, J) '93)
4. Choose colour

I'm not sure how it works, but I think the engine, body shape and interior materials are tied to the "variant". If you want a different engine or a different seat material, you choose a different variant. If there isn't a "variant" with the combination of engine, body shape and interior materials that you want, you pick the closest option and do an aftermarket modification for the rest. "Aftermarket modifications" may include changing the engine, spoiler, wheels or some of the bodywork.

Ex. Spoiler: Maybe you could choose not just standard spoilers, but also spoilers from similar cars. For example, Mitsubishi's GTO comes with a low, high round, or high flat spoiler, depending on the variant. Would be nice if you could put a high flat spoiler on any GTO, since it only comes with one variant.

Ex. Bodywork: In a slightly more extreme example, maybe you'd want to replace the front panels of a 180SX with the front panels of a Silvia S13. (You'd probably call this a Sileighty after the modification, but it's still legally a 180SX.)

Really, instead of scrolling through hundreds of Nissans with dozens of Skylines/GT-Rs (until you find one that you like the most or fits your expectations best) it would be much more intuitive, realistic and rewarding to spend your hard earned credits like that. Because you get the car that you want, not the car that you have to take because its no better or no other option available.
Even if you change the car purchase system, you'll still have a finite number of options. Being able to mix and match parts like GTO spoilers or Silvia and 180SX panels would give you some more options. However, until PD gives us a way of drawing the 3D geometry ourselves, we'll always be picking the car closest to what we want. With hundreds of cars to choose from, that seems quite fine for now. ^^
 
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Just changing the car purchase menu won't add more cars to the game. If you want more cars, you'll have to ask for them in the relevant forum. Also, Polyphony Digital isn't Volvo or Mercedes, or any other car manufacturer. You can't expect them to include every modern Volvo or Mercedes in the game.

It will add more cars. But not necessarily completely different cars, because since we have almost 60 "different" Nissan Skyline models, other versions of existing european cars would count for me as well. ;)

But maybe i didnt explain well enough why "my" car purchase system with the option of choosing the engine for your car would be better.

Example: If you want to buy a new VW Golf VII in game, because you think its the best compact car, but you dont have the money (for example, in real life the car costs almost 40000 Euro) to buy the "R" version with 300 HP, you should have the option to select another engine/version and go with the 220 HP "GTI" that costs 25000 - 28000 or even go with the 1.4 TSI with only 140 HP which you could then take to a tuning company to get more HP for a good price. Its all about the REALISM IN GRAN TURISMO and the additional options that you would have, when you would like to buy a car in game to take it to the races.

Also I know that PD is not Volvo or Mercedes. But since the matter of adding new cars or new manufacturers is mostly a question of PD paying for/buying licenses, its always possible to get new cars and manufacturers. Maybe you will have to pay for them, like the car packs in GT5. Who says that there never will be a Volvo car pack, with the actual line up of four or five Volvo models and maybe a few older ones for - lets say - 10 Dollars?

It would be nice to see cars from some manufacturers better organised in GT, but not every manufacturer has enough cars in the game to benefit. For example, if I'm looking for an RX-7, it would be nice if I didnt have to scroll through several pages of MX-5s. Even though the current system could be better, it works well enough, even for large lists like in Nissan or Mazda.

Ex.
1. Choose manufacturer (Mazda), displays list of Mazda "models"
2. Choose "model" (RX-7), displays list of RX-7 "variants"
3. Choose "variant" (RX-7 Type R (FD, J) '93)
4. Choose colour

Of course, the existing search options in GT6 are okay and i would be fine with that when i am browsing different USED CARS DEALERS in a future game of GT. But it has nothing to do with my idea of reinvented car purchases of NEW CARS!

Thats why your example is not so good, because i wasnt talking about how to simply search and find OLD CARS (that normally would be used cars)!

Also your example shows, how ILLOGICAL AND FAR FROM REALISTIC the purchase of OLD CARS in GT6 is.

Please show me where i can buy (in reality) a wide range of factory-new RX-7 (that are ~10 to ~35 years old, depending on the model) in 2014? With the option of choosing the color of the car? I tell you: NOWHERE!

Even if you find a used RX-7 that is "like new", you wont have the chance to choose the color (not even think about the engine) it comes with. You would have had this option (these options, if you take the choice of engine into account) only in the early 2000s if you would have bought a NEW Mazda RX-7 (FD3S) back!

I'm not sure how it works, but I think the engine, body shape and interior materials are tied to the "variant". If you want a different engine or a different seat material, you choose a different variant. If there isn't a "variant" with the combination of engine, body shape and interior materials that you want, you pick the closest option and do an aftermarket modification for the rest. "Aftermarket modifications" may include changing the engine, spoiler, wheels or some of the bodywork.

That what you sum up as "aftermarket modifications" is what i would think would be as close to perfect as it could get. If i want to have my new Ferrari colored in pink, black and white, then i will buy one in a standard color and take my car to someone who is able and willing to do the paint job in the way i like it. Thats what some people do in the real world, so why not in GT?

Of course, a full livery editor would be freakingly cool, but would also have downsides if taken to the extreme (i think about bad made liveries, about such that would show rude, sexual explicit graphics or symbols that have a political meaning). Whereas the options to individually paint roof, hood, doors, bumpers etc. would already be a big step forward! And in addition to "stickers" or "decals" like in Need for Speed Underground 2 back in the days, i would say it would be almost perfect!

Ex. Spoiler: Maybe you could choose not just standard spoilers, but also spoilers from similar cars. For example, Mitsubishi's GTO comes with a low, high round, or high flat spoiler, depending on the variant. Would be nice if you could put a high flat spoiler on any GTO, since it only comes with one variant.

Yeah, that would be what i appreciate, but i know thats is very difficult to realize because of the graphic modelling. Interestingly, Need for Speed Carbon (an awful game i think) gave you a cool tuning option named "Autosculpt" to sculpt your own parts to a certain degree (look here, the guy sculpts a Nissan Skyline to the limit, its still quite impressive from a programming/technical perspective), which worked quite well for that time. Imagine how cool that would be for a future GT!

Ex. Bodywork: In a slightly more extreme example, maybe you'd want to replace the front panels of a 180SX with the front panels of a Silvia S13. (You'd probably call this a Sileighty after the modification, but it's still legally a 180SX.)

Sky is the limit once again. I could imagine such an option in the future. I mean, its possible in reality so it SHOULD be possible in virtual reality one day!

Even if you change the car purchase system, you'll still have a finite number of options. Being able to mix and match parts like GTO spoilers or Silvia and 180SX panels would give you some more options. However, until PD gives us a way of drawing the 3D geometry ourselves, we'll always be picking the car closest to what we want. With hundreds of cars to choose from, that seems quite fine for now. ^^

Compared to the options that GT6 offers, even with all the cars, car parts and colors, my VISION OF A FUTURE GT would give you FAR more options! In fact, it would be another world with the revamped NEW CAR PURCHASE, USED CAR DEALERS and TUNING COMPANIES!

For example: If you go to configure your very own VW Golf VII online (you have to choose the Golf from all the available Volkswagen models, then you can start), you have more than 1000 possible configurations (and a good impression of how it could look if you BUY A NEW CAR IN A FUTURE GT).

Now you may subtract all those tiny little options that we do not need to have (but how cool would it be to choose another soundsystem) but when you add third party tuning parts, third party wheels/rims and unique paint jobs, the number of options for only one car would be incredibly already!

Of course, with all the tuning options GT6 has available right now there also is huge amount of options. But the problem is that your choice is badly restricted too often!
Thanks for all your attention, i like to further discuss and hear what you think about all that!
 
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Still ---> my vision is the ultimate vision of a new Gran Turismo game that lives up to its name! If Kaz reads this one day in his live i will be happy. If he reads and answers, i am immortal! :D

I just hope i will live long enough to be able to play this kind of game as i foresee... and even better if this game is called "Gran Turismo" in some way!!!
 
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