Completely wrong WRX

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THIS IS NOT RIGHT.


That is the most insane build I've ever seen. People keep asking the guy what he does for a living, he never answers. One guy said "hands down, you're a bank robber." :lol:




Still.... :scared:


Enjoy.
 
It would be expensive in the U.S or the U.K, but in Greece it's so much more expensive due to rules on importing parts.

Very interesting build, his garage is awesome too!
 
I only glanced over a few pics but twin Bosch 044 with a Sard 280 lift pump! what power is he going for!

EDIT: Just noticed he is using a HKS 3240, the fuel system sure is overkill, like everything :lol:
 
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Wow! Children are going to cry and seniors will tremble when this thing starts roaming the streets. I'm sure surprised that he doesn't have a lift to work on though, just some jack stands and a rug. Doing all the work himself and being such a humble person takes the cake. 👍
 
I don't know what to say. First, congrats to the dude for building all himself. And yea, it will be quick but it seems like over kill for a street car. It's not exactly a cohesive build either, it just looks like tens of thousands, maybe getting near hundred thousands of hardcore (and "cosmetic" hardcore) performance parts on a mostly street car?
It seems like modifying for modifyings sake. You wouldn't even expect this level of modification for a Group N rally car.

IMO, it's fairly ugly too. But meh, each to their own.
 
Probably would have been cheaper to go to Prodrive and just buy a WRC car. That way he'd have got proper suspension, diffs and a sequential box.
 
Stotty
Probably would have been cheaper to go to Prodrive and just buy a WRC car. That way he'd have got proper suspension, diffs and a sequential box.
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I know it's an older ad, but £70k will get you an ex-works '98 WRC tarmac spec Impreza.

Or a little bit more for an ex-Colin McRae one!

£40k will net you a 'brand new' 2004 full Group N Impreza which, although less powerful than the one he's building, will at least be well set-up. You can throw all the trick parts you want onto a car, but unless you know how to properly set the thing up for the conditions it's going to be driven in, you could end up with a total dog of a car to drive.
 
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Prodrive have quite a few Impreza's on thier site, including...

€260k for a 2004 S10 tarmac spec Impreza,with less than 300km since new gearbox/diff/turbo and only 565km on the engine.

Or if you wanted something a bit cheaper...

€55K for the 2008 Portugese Championship winning Group N car (built 2005, N11 spec, fully updated with latest homologated parts). with tarmac and gravel kit.

Full list here... http://www.prodrive.com/level3.html?id=791
 
Stotty
Probably would have been cheaper to go to Prodrive and just buy a WRC car. That way he'd have got proper suspension, diffs and a sequential box.
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I was thinking that exactly as I was reading through the thread. Just fit some road seats and aircon to a WRC car...

Looking at this pic though...

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...it's no wonder modern cars are so damn heavy! Wire anyone? I've got loads! And seriously, how much do all those chassis braces and stuff add to the weight? :odd:
 
No prodrive car will have the power he wants with his HKS GT3240, though you could upgrade it just the same.
 
Another advantage a WRC/GrpN car would have is chassis prep... proper seam welded chassis and welded in cage... no need for all those bolt on chassis braces.
 
homeforsummer
I was thinking that exactly as I was reading through the thread. Just fit some road seats and aircon to a WRC car...

Looking at this pic though...

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Someone buy this man some cable ties. STAT.
 
VIPERGTSR01
No prodrive car will have the power he wants with his HKS GT3240, though you could upgrade it just the same.
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True. Though remember that the WRC cars have air restrictors to limit their power. The engines are said to be capable of over 600bhp with the restrictors removed, and I don't doubt for a second that the rest of the car can handle that sort of power either.
 
He's coming from the wrong direction for his goal. You want the ultimate 'road' Impreza, you start with a WRC Impreza, which after all are road legal and quite tractable on the road, as they are driven between stages after all. If you want a bit more comfort, you can add your carpets, stereo and aircon quite easily i'd imagine. Taking a standard road car and throwing every available after-market part at it in the hope that you'll end up with something cohesive when you've finished is a recipe for fail. I guess for some people it's the journey and not the destination.
 
On exactly that note, yes indeed. Each to his own and all that. Half of the fun is doing the car up, even if it doesn't come out to everyone's taste :)

A recipe for fail? I wonder how much a WRC car costs compared to this. Besides, are you sure you can just registrate a WRC Impreza in Greece? I know most companies doing cars up aren't starting with a WRC Evo or anything, they start with stock cars and build them. I know you can't just get plates on an ex-rally car around here where I live..
I think it's throwing way too much cash on a car, I'd probably enjoy a car like this with some minor stuff done to it.. If I had a STi it'd be unusably low, window down all summer to enjoy the sound and with the turbo pressure up so something broke down in the end :)
 
Pretty much :)
Keep it simple, that's my motto. I wouldn't say this car in question is a fail or completely wrong, I think that's taking it way too far. But the owner tries too hard, for sure.
 
eiriksmil
A recipe for fail? I wonder how much a WRC car costs compared to this. Besides, are you sure you can just registrate a WRC Impreza in Greece? I know most companies doing cars up aren't starting with a WRC Evo or anything, they start with stock cars and build them. I know you can't just get plates on an ex-rally car around here where I live..
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We've posted links to WRC Imprezas for sale. £70k for an older one is a benchmark. All WRC cars are road legal. Greece hold a round of the WRC so the cars must be legal if they are to be driven between stages on the open public roads as they are required to do so. Norway also hold a round of the WRC too so they, and any Group N cars and the like, must all be totally road legal around where you live.
 
TheCracker
We've posted links to WRC Imprezas for sale. £70k for an older one is a benchmark. All WRC cars are road legal. Greece hold a round of the WRC so the cars must be legal there if they are to be driven between stages on the open public roads as they are required to do so. Norway also hold a round of the WRC so they, and any Group N cars and the like must all be totally road legal around where you live too.
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They get permits in Australia IIRC, but would not be legal for everyday use. Don't know what over countries they would get permits.
 
TheCracker
We've posted links to WRC Imprezas for sale. £70k for an older one is a benchmark. All WRC cars are road legal. Greece hold a round of the WRC so the cars must be legal if they are to be driven between stages on the open public roads as they are required to do so. Norway also hold a round of the WRC too so they, and any Group N cars and the like, must all be totally road legal around where you live.
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You don't get plates on a Japanese-import Impreza 1.6 here mister.
Driving cars between stages in a rally is way different. They are allowed for that, and that only. As far as I know, rally cars are trailered around here. Cars also have different types of plates here, rally cars have black plates and aren't taxed - driving one on the road would be economic suicide. Road cars have white plates, and almost every mod must follow TÜV.
 
Imagine applying for insurance on this car...

Insurance company: "Have you made any modifications to your car"

Owner: "err, yes, 1 or 2"

Insurance company "car we have full details please?"

45 pages of A4 later and endless "what's a r45xp6 dump valve and what does it do" questions etc etc... "that'll be €20,000 please"
 
eiriksmil
Driving cars between stages in a rally is way different.
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Why?

If car is road legal enough to be allowed even a temporary pass, it's not going to require much work to make it fully compliant with TUV regs, Certainly no more than a road car that's been as heavily modified and re-worked as the one in the article.

The guy lives in Greece anyway. As long as a vehicle can move under it's own steam it's road legal in Greece, they're hardly the most safety conscious nation in world!
 
Um.. Yes.. I believe that these temperory passes are given to all the cars entering a rally, and not each car viewed individually. You need to go through technical inspections to enter the rally, but in Norway, street-driven cars cannot even have a half-cage. That's a new rule, but that's been the case with full cages for a long time; the full cage on a roadgoing 911 (GT3?) is not road-legal. You can't have FIA-approved 4-points, which you need in order to comply with rally regulations. There's a loophole, if your car is used in motorsport you can drive on the road, but I don't know if there's a limit on road miles. You do have to use it for competition though..

More importantly, you modify a road car so that you don't have to register it. The only problem for this dude in Greece would be MOTs, and that's no problem in Greece. Getting plates on a rally car is something way different.
 
Wow, regulations in Norway suck for you :( 👎

Without known all the ins and outs of the Greek road registering process i can't say for sure, but i doubt it's any easier to get a heavily modified road car fully road legal then it is to do the same with a WRC. Especially when the WRC car is already fully legal in plenty of other EU countries. The Greek version of the MoT (the KTEO) is little more than an exercise in tyre kicking, especially if the car already has a UK Mot.
 
Well, last night I had a look through the ENTIRE thread, it took me a while to get through it. But i did pick up on a few things that you guys seemed to sort of just skip. The reason he's not running a full cage is because 1. Its illegal to run a fully caged car in Greece. 2. Its a family/fun/trackday vehicle. and 3. He said he doesn't like the feeling of being caged in.

While his build may be VERY over the top for something being built in a garage. But c'mon, he's doing it himself. He's picked everything that he wants on the car and is just going at it. I admire what he's doing for just that. Sure it might be "easier" to just go buy a WRC car and start driving it around. But to do it yourself is just a thing you have to experience yourself. If I had the time and money to do stuff like that to my car I would too.
 

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