Confession Time

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Meanwhile......back in the confessional :p

My confession is that I restarted the game completely a few days ago (having completed nearly 90% of it) as: a) I wasted way too many credits on cars I didn't need/weren't as good as I thought (4M+) and b) It was too easy (well, until the Super licence anyway lol), mainly due to me forgetting to change the TCS on cars so they were almost always on 5 and having SRF on for half the game.

So, having restarted the game, I decided to: Have all aids off except ABS 1 (though I will use TCS in future if it's necessary due to the limits of my control with a DS3), buy as few cars as possible (use prize cars if possible and only use Anniversary Cars if really necessary) and use in-car view (always used third person view before). And......

The game this time around is so much more fun and the racing is much closer making me race better and (sometimes!) cleaner. Along with most aids off, cockpit view and using prize cars etc, I have chosen not to do my usual of automatically buying better tyres/upgrades on cars to give me an advantage. Currently, I am up to National A (completed all National B except Karts and FR races) and have bought 2 cars (the 2 needed for the One Make Races in Nat B), spent 0 credits on tuning and have only used 1 Anniversary car (The Alpine A110 for the historic car races in Nat B). The racing is so much closer now that I am not using heavily overpowered cars for the events...for example, using the A110 Anni car against the Ferrari Dino around Silverstone was so exciting as i wasn't entirely sure I would win due to either the Dino being quicker in the straights or that whenever I went past the Dino tried to spin me. It was so much more fun (obviously) than my usual of overtake everyone in half a lap and then treat as a time trial.

I was one of those who thought the game wasn't all that good and was too easy....now I know otherwise. While I have won all the events so far, it has not been inevitable that I would win. We shall see what happens when I start at higher pp cars and more power but, so far, am having great fun. Struggling a bit with cockpit view though (first time I've ever used it is last 3 days), especially on licences/missions.....the Nat B mission race at Deep Forest first sector I could not get gold not matter how many time I tried, switched to third person view and got gold straight away (same with lunar missions). I just can't get the same entries and exits with the cockpit view...maybe I just need to spend a few days using arcade mode to practice with it to get comfortable.....in races, it is not so important but when the time matters, I just can't find those extra 2 or 3 tenths that I can with exterior view. Oh well, it'll come in time I guess. Anyway, back to the fun
 
hsv010
He's still stronger and fitter, physically and mentally than you are. That ad is poking fun at him being American, not what series he races in. You're terribly misinformed, stubborn and you keep trolling the thread with anti-NASCAR remarks. Just stop it.
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You should have seen F1 in the 50's and 60's, Alberto Ascari for example?:

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Doesn't mean these guys deserve less respect than the ones that spend every free minute in the gym ;)
 
ZDUPH
<...>In proper NASCAR, you're going door-to-door at 180+mph through corners. We're talking like 3 inches apart (if that). One tiny slip-up can ruin the race for a load of drivers<...>
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And God help you if one of those drivers is Juan Pablo Montoya.

And comparing the physical fitness of NASCAR drivers to that of (modern) GP drivers isn't fair. In order to drive a Formula 1 car you need to go through the same rigorous training regime of fighter jet pilots (and you are subjected to forces of similar intensity during cornering and braking). Stock car racing is a lot closer to GT or TC racing in terms of physical exertion.

My confession? I bought this game only because it had the Abarth/Bertone B.A.T. 1; grinded like a madman for it. I have no regrets.
 
Confession time, i enjoy playing Forz 5 and 4 more than GT 5 or 6, but i still play GT5 and 6 because sometimes it feels right.

you know what i just had a great idea, why not mix out GT and forza!
 
What, so you two are connected or something? If you're told something does he have to receive exactly the same information as you, and do you both have to agree on it?
:p

On another note, will you stop trolling this thread with anti-NASCAR stuff?
 
it was said on national television. 300 million people have access to it.

on another note, will you stop trying to defend rolling billboards which do not belong in a game that is about the anufacturers of cars, not advertising products
 
Will you give up the crap trolling act? It's getting very tiresome, and you're only doing it to get some kind of response, which will not happen.
1) They are cars, and they are made by 'anufacturers' as you call them.
2) I'm not sure if you've been absent from motorsport since the late 1960's, but there is something called 'sponsorship' that is very common across every single form of motorsport in the world. It involves companies placing their logos onto cars in exchange for some money towards the team, which helps their racing budget. It's very commonplace and has been for about half a century now.
 
mikeymc92
it was said on national television. 300 million people have access to it.

on another note, will you stop trying to defend rolling billboards which do not belong in a game that is about the anufacturers of cars, not advertising products
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The americans have a point tough, to the rest of the world it seems like they just go around in circles (which they do), but to be the best in this discipline you also have to master the technique of drafting, and making your move at the right time + being beware of the guy drafting you.

For the flawed game GT5 was (IMO), this is one of the things it helped me realize as the nascar challenge was one of the tougher ones and i didn't realize the technique behind it before. (couldn't care less about someone's physical condition to be honest, mastery of racing cars is mostly done in the brain anyway i think ;) ).
 
hsv010
Will you give up the crap trolling act? It's getting very tiresome, and you're only doing it to get some kind of response, which will not happen.
1) They are cars, and they are made by 'anufacturers' as you call them.
2) I'm not sure if you've been absent from motorsport since the late 1960's, but there is something called 'sponsorship' that is very common across every single form of motorsport in the world. It involves companies placing their logos onto cars in exchange for some money towards the team, which helps their racing budget. It's very commonplace and has been for about half a century now.
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apparently the "M" on his keyboard doesnt work. but as he says, this is a game about cars, not aflac or mountain dew or whatever they advertise on those cars. since you have obviously never seen a nascar race unless you really wanted to waste a lot of money to cross the atlantic to be put to sleep. attendance is down 50% at live races as well as tv viewership. nascar s dead.
 
mister dog
The americans have a point tough, to the rest of the world it seems like they just go around in circles (which they do), but to be the best in this discipline you also have to master the technique of drafting, and making your move at the right time + being beware of the guy drafting you.

in response to you, i agree that there is a technique to drafting, the problem is that very few tracks implement this. daytona and talladega for sure and maybe pocono to a degree. nascar became all about money, thats what is killing it. the sponsors and money have made it so there are maybe 10-15 competitve teams and 25 field fillers. i think the best perspective on your theory of good drivers/drafters could be seen last year when the underdog 34 team was pushed to a victory by their teammate 38 team at talladega. on those tracks driver talent comes out, just like the road courses. however the other 30 races are just plain boring and it comes down to testing (wind tunnels and practice trials) which directly comes back to sponsorship money
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You keep on trolling this thread, saying I haven't seen NASCAR, it's boring, apparently it's even dead now, etc... racing cars have sponsors and have had for half a century. If that somehow makes NASCAR bad, or detracts from Gran Turismo in any way having a logo on a car, please enlighten me.
 
what i am saying is corporate logos have no business in this game. wherther it be red bull or nascar. its a game about cars. when you go into the dealerships there are 1000s of cars. then you pick what color you want, not a mountain dew or aflac sticker. its a simple color. you dont see a honda civic covered in ads, its red yellow blue black white. it isnt complicated. i didnt say you had to agree with me, and as someone who bought the game 8 hours ago, i find it amusing that you say im trolling after i made 2 posts that belittle what you call a sport. i live here in america, there are 4 sports baseball football basketball and hockey. you can put golf poker bowling and nascar on the sports networks, that does not make it a sport
 
So racing cars have no place in the game?

EDIT - just to disprove every word you say:
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having played all of the previous GT games, i have seen mostly the same racecars repeated in the game year after year. i dont consider myself knowledgeable on the subject if these cars are actually in a racing series or had been in a series seeing that some go back to the 90s
 
I'm sorry, are you for real? Do you mean that because a car is from the 1990's, it's not a racing car? By your word, a race car shouldn't be included because a) It looks as it does in real life, with sponsors on, and b) They are a few years old? This is serious stupidity. You still haven't explained to me why having sponsors like every other form of motorsport since the 1960's makes NASCAR bad.
 
hsv010
So racing cars have no place in the game?

EDIT - just to disprove every word you say:
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this car is not in the game. and having realized im arguing with a 14 year old child from england i also realize that "i cant fix stupid".
 
I'm realising the same thing about you...

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This car is in the game. It's a Civic. From the 90's. And it raced.

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EDIT - I still can't make heads or tails of what you're trying to say. And you keep avoiding my question, why does sponsorship not make NASCAR a sport, or detract from the racing in any way?
 
mikeymc92
will you stop trying to defend rolling billboards which do not belong in a game that is about the anufacturers of cars, not advertising products
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kyle keegan
what i am saying is corporate logos have no business in this game. wherther it be red bull or nascar. its a game about cars. when you go into the dealerships there are 1000s of cars. then you pick what color you want, not a mountain dew or aflac sticker. its a simple color. you dont see a honda civic covered in ads, its red yellow blue black white. it isnt complicated. i didnt say you had to agree with me, and as someone who bought the game 8 hours ago, i find it amusing that you say im trolling after i made 2 posts that belittle what you call a sport. i live here in america, there are 4 sports baseball football basketball and hockey. you can put golf poker bowling and nascar on the sports networks, that does not make it a sport
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Sponsorship and advertising is everywhere and in everything where there is money to be made.....DEAL WITH IT!!!!!

And almost anything that is a competitive challenge can be classed as a sport.
 
It's in something called the AUP, you ticked the box saying you would adhere to it when you joined:
https://www.gtplanet.net/aup/

"You will not use “textspeak” (“r”, “u”, “plz”, etc.) in your messages. Decent grammar is expected at all times, including proper usage of capital letters."
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And you say that you're not trolling, yet every single one of you're six posts on this forum have been extremist ant-NASCAR, and weirdly, anti-motorsport posts in a thread about why GT6 is good and has surprised you :rolleyes:.
 
hsv010
It's in something called the AUP, you ticked the box saying you would adhere to it when you joined:
https://www.gtplanet.net/aup/



And you say that you're not trolling, yet every single one of you're six posts on this forum have been extremist ant-NASCAR, and weirdly, anti-motorsport posts in a thread about why GT6 is good and has surprised you :rolleyes:.
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it would be "your six posts" and "anti-nascar". and yes all of my posts are anti-nascar. am i not allowed to have an opinion?
 
kyle keegan
it would be "your six posts" and "anti-nascar". and yes all of my posts are anti-nascar. am i not allowed to have an opinion?
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Are we not allowed to consider your opinion stupid?

You say that there are four sports: baseball, football, basketball, and hockey. I'll be sure to tell all my friends that play rugby or soccer that they're not doing sports, because apparently only what's popular in the US and passes your scrutiny is a sport.

If words didn't have a universally accepted meaning they would be useless; and a "sport", according to the Oxford English Dictionary, is "an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment". We add the prefix "motor-" since the exertion is done by a motorized vehicle rather than by the athlete himself.

And yes, Gran Turismo is a game about cars. And like it or not, motorsports (and sponsors) are a very integral part of car culture. So yes, in a part, this game IS about what sponsor they put on those cars, be it AFLAC or Asahi Drinks or the Teikyo University. Car lovers all over the world will recognize the car fielded by the team or driven by the driver they cherish by looking at those sponsors.
 
mister dog
For the flawed game GT5 was (IMO), this is one of the things it helped me realize as the nascar challenge was one of the tougher ones and i didn't realize the technique behind it before. (couldn't care less about someone's physical condition to be honest, mastery of racing cars is mostly done in the brain anyway i think ;) ).
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This was my biggest take away from GT5, an appreciation for NASCAR.
 
thats why its called an "opinion". i never said anyone had to agree with me. but i do like your arguement that the exertion is done by a motorized vehicle. This does not make the guy driving an athlete. I drive everyday. This does not make me an athlete. I have bowled golfed and played poker. These are hobbies, not sports
 
Actually, after reading above, it is not worth replying. Sorry, but I have more to do than feeding a troll. @hsv010 is the one to listen to. Thank you for supporting my favorite motorsport. 👍
 
nursemorph
Meanwhile......back in the confessional :p

automatically buying better tyres/upgrades on cars to give me an advantage. Currently, I am up to National A (completed all National B except Karts and FR races) and have bought 2 cars (the 2 needed for the One Make Races in Nat B), spent 0 credits on tuning and have only used 1 Anniversary car (The Alpine A110 for the historic car races in Nat B). The racing is so much closer now that I am not using heavily overpowered cars for the events...for example, using the A110 Anni car against the Ferrari Dino around Silverstone was so exciting as i wasn't entirely sure I would win due to either the Dino being quicker in the straights or that whenever I went past the Dino tried to spin me. It was so much more fun (obviously) than my usual of overtake everyone in half a lap and then treat as a time trial.
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My "no wallet" log might be of help to you. See here
 

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