Create A Nation 2.0

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Or we can just not create a third thread, with the same purpose as the first two. Jordan, Famine, TB etc. don't like new threads that share a purpose with an old thread.
 
If you make a new one, can I take over your current job and you'll have Quack's job?

I'll update the map and territories, you can make random events, D3ATH will be head mod and whomever else can do whats left.
 
Or we can just not create a third thread, with the same purpose as the first two. Jordan, Famine, TB etc. don't like new threads that share a purpose with an old thread.

I asked Famine and he said ok, as long as it had better rules. Go check my profile.
 
I asked Famine and he said ok, as long as it had better rules. Go check my profile.

Okay. I guess I'll help write up the new rules:


1. Thread mods/organizers will tell you what you can research. Arkbird will have to wait 200 years, as you'll have to develop composite materials, and a new propulsion system capable of lifting the larger weight.
 
Okay, I have a storyline planned out for a little bit after the start of the game, may I suggest going back to 2 days a year D3ATH, the slowness kind of messed up this one Quack.
 
Okay, I have a storyline planned out for a little bit after the start of the game, may I suggest going back to 2 days a year D3ATH, the slowness kind of messed up this one Quack.

Three parts a year is my comprimise.
 
Is it me or whenever someone attacks another player both will always make up a reason why the other has failed and lost the war.

Well no wonder everyone left. **** this game, its simply unfair. Since magpul stabbed me in the back, as did haitch, lancer gets all my land. I'm done with you guys, I'm half tempted just to get this thread locked. I'm going to a more professinal site where the rules are set in stone. Mr. Melancholy, your now top comod. Since lawlessness reigns here, I might as well retain top mod staus to keep the burden of melancholy.

I'm sorry famine, I was wrong for reviving this thread..

Ok guys, I don't know how many times I've said this but you still haven't figured it out. I'm not a mod, but this was decided before the game started so I'm just pointing out existing rules. This is why we agreed when this game started that mod or not, any participant of a war could not decide the outcomes of things, because it would be just unfair. Quack, everyone turned on you because every time ghskilla made a move, you responded by just saying your stuff was better. Exhibit A: your Rangers. Every time anyone even thought of saying they had something that could take on your ground forces, you'd say "oh no, my ground troops are the best in the world, and oh yeah there's no WAY revenge is on your side, we want it WAY more than you do." It's like you couldn't bear the thought that maybe your troops could conceivably ever be beaten, which kind of defeats the purpose of the game, doesn't it? You have to adapt, and not just keep insisting that your stuff is the best. Admittedly, ghskilla countered with a lot of the same tactics, but that's because that's the only way to fight it.

This is why anyone who's in a war can't mod it. It MUST be a third-party, unbiased mod. Every single time you got in a war Quack, you tried to mod it, and it always bit you back because you were biased. And I'm not saying it's your problem, because ANYONE would be biased to themselves if they were in your position, but you never were willing to wait for another mod to do it. If you had, things might have been different and there would have been fair outcomes to wars.

I would offer to mod myself, but college takes up most of my day so I'm not on so much.

Yes. I failed. I tried to do it all myself, taking time out my school days to help but I failed. I'm sorry to the guys I failed.

Despite all I just said, I do very much appreciate your efforts to mod this game. You did a fine job, until the point where you went to war with somebody, and then acted as Famine posted.

OMG SUPER LAZER ARKBIRD EPIC GUNS!

Dude, come on. It's 2023 or whatever. All of ghs's technology is completely plausible, and he wasn't invincible at all. His ground and sea forces were relatively pathetic, and even has almighty air force had weaknesses. He got all his planes from a game, and I've gotten most of my stuff from games nobody remembers, whereas you kept the approach of "we're from the South, we've got the best morale and the Rangers and that's all that matters". You could have just as easily developed superweapons like pretty much everyone else was doing, and countermeasures to ghs's air power. Super planes? Non-super AA is not going to cut it. So invest in a hyper-advanced AA system. Make up technology to counter his made up technology.

EVERYONE READ


I am going to remake this thread in a few days or so and rename it Create a Nation 2.5. I will NOT get this thread locked, and let those who wish to continue to play here do so. The next thread WILL have stricter and clearer rules, more split up tasks between mods and more focus on alliance groups than superpowers. If you wish to play here, say so now, if you wish to follow me say so. I will keep a tally so I know when is a good time to start.

Ugh, remaking a second time? Will we have to start back at the beginning, right after World War III? That'll be kinda tedious. But if you're going to make a new one, I'm pretty sure all of us will move over to the new one.

Before we make the new one, how about we all agree to start completely fresh and completely lay out and agree on all of the rules, and only then do we start over?
 
We're in discussions right now. We're balancing the rules. There will be a way to balance wars.
 
We're in discussions right now. We're balancing the rules. There will be a way to balance wars.

Please remember that Magpul and I also base our decisions on strategy, too. Just because you have numbers, doesn't mean you know how to use them.


Agincourt, my friends; Agincourt.
 
I'm done with this game. Starting over again is pointless. The game will be insanely boring if it takes forever to build something. Sure that's realistic, but that's almost hyper realistic. Waiting around all month for a few planes to be built. Good luck falling over yourselves again.

That is all.
 
I'm done with this game. Starting over again is pointless. The game will be insanely boring if it takes forever to build something. Sure that's realistic, but that's almost hyper realistic. Waiting around all month for a few planes to be built. Good luck falling over yourselves again.

That is all.

Dont let the door hit you on the way ouy.
 
Quackjack
Dont let the door hit you on the way ouy.

I'll be seeing myself "ouy".

Enjoy being butthurt whenever you get invaded.
Hope you don't make a third thread.
 
Why, Mag?! :ouch:

Okay. How about we forget this ever happened? This is ridiculous, guys. The game's formula is fine as is, we don't need to change anything. If an independent mod decides wars, then it will be fair. I built my weaponry and vehicles and it took a massive hit out of my budget. Remember me having about 70 billion GPD? Once I started development it dropped to about 10 million before a period of no development raised it up back to 20+.

Ugh. Quack, I appreciate your work and moderation of this thread greatly, but just because you get teamed up doesn't give you the right to quit. In fact, your attitude towards the situation caused this. If we're making another thread, I'm probably not going to join. It'll just end up like this, when someone quits due to an "unfair" war.
 
I asked Famine and he said ok, as long as it had better rules. Go check my profile.

That's not quite what I said. You asked if I had any ideas to improve it. I suggested keeping the "GMs" out of playing the game, just controlling the environment - like in any good role-playing game. A good GM makes a good RPG - and a toss one will ruin it.

You could play the NPCs - I'm sure the five non-useable countries wouldn't sit idly by while people invent laser-powered diamondillium mecha-planes ready for World War 4 (so soon after WW3).

The "Create a Nation" concept has good potential, but if you're going to end up with bizarre apocalyptic weapons wielded by people who want to create a planet, you're just at this level:

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And if you remake it every time it breaks because a group of people just want to obliterate each other, you'll only get that group of people as everyone else gets bored of their work being reset.

That aside, a giant chunk of the recent gaming has been preposterous. With the majority of the planet glowing and clicking at the start of the game, there's few people and few resources. What resources there are will be fixed by location (geology's kinda hard to get round, for instance) and transport (presumably the war took its toll on transport infrastructure and factories - I'd pummel airports, shipyards and factories before cities if I was an aggressor). Quite how you get from that to mile wide, ion-driven, flying aircraft carriers in twenty years escapes me. There's also no internal politics (the guys who won WW2 spent almost as little time in power afterwards as the guys who lost), no espionage (you don't think anyone saw you building WMDs and leaked the secrets?) and no consideration of the population or what it actually does other than kick the crap out of each other.

And why does a territory made of 20m people living in Senegal, the Gambia and Equatorial Guinea get the same funding per day as a territory made of 500m people living in Brazil, Argentina and Uruguay? And why do you still make that when all your country's resources are in crap-kicking, rather than other industries?


You need someone who has experience of GMing an RPG. You need them to set up territory values - sizes, populations, "worth" in currency, current post-WW3 status - at the start of the game, determine how much each player is limited to own, have a startup period so that you don't get newcomers stepping in with naked territories while they're being overflown by suborbital cyborg deathninjas on their way to scour Plankonia from the face of the Earth, have a set number of moves per player per day (so you don't need multiple "mods"), have specific combat rules - "Okay, I'm sending in 2 million troops to Angola"; "You lost 20%" doesn't make any sense - set an "end" date and a way of determining the winner (then "resets" annoy no-one) and the list goes on. This will take a good GM with good knowledge of the planet and of gaming in general probably a month to set up and a fartload of time to run as the usual internet denizens try to push their luck.

Then you get intelligent players thinking creatively - right now there's no incentive to, other than thinking what the next superweapon is. Probably invisible shields powered by fusion generators that are also shielded - or rocket powered chainsaws, where the teeth are other chainsaws.


But I didn't say it's OK to start a new one with better rules...
 
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I agree 100% with Famine and GHS. Everyone is following Quack for whatever reason, and it's all pointless. If non-playing GM's were to run the game, maybe we'd be ok.

Quack, what you just posted shows how stupid (excuse me) you really are.
 
This current game can be killed off very easily.

Hostile Alien invasion. Every human is killed. Evolution has to start over.

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I agree 100% with Famine and GHS. Everyone is following Quack for whatever reason, and it's all pointless. If non-playing GM's were to run the game, maybe we'd be ok.

Quack, what you just posted shows how stupid (excuse me) you really are.

See, this guy can't argue without getting personal. Fine, Mr. Knowitall, fix everything. WE are trying, while you cry. Ask D3ATH our plan, while we have to fix this mess...
 
*death of game comment*

:lol: I'm thinking it is time... I enjoyed considering the language, trade, and other things that would occur, should my country actually exist as such, under the circumstances, but, my word, it's gone wrong.
 
Quackjack
See, this guy can't argue without getting personal. Fine, Mr. Knowitall, fix everything. WE are trying, while you cry. Ask D3ATH our plan, while we have to fix this mess...

Crying? You're the one who restarted because everyone invaded you. And I could give 2 ****s about your plan.
 
Actually, I LOVE Famine's ideas...HE should start the thread, as I have school as well. He could turn the game into a complete obsession for me.

PLEASE Famine, you would be excellent starting this!
 
OMG. SO TRUE. Famine, can you make it?

@Mag, your getting pathetic now. Just leave.
 
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We can guarantee that Famine will be back, to sort us out. Stop swearing, guys. You'll get yourselves in trouble. Then what good are the rules, if you're banned?

Sorry, swearing stops here.
 
Actually, I LOVE Famine's ideas...HE should start the thread, as I have school as well. He could turn the game into a complete obsession for me.

PLEASE Famine, you would be excellent starting this!

Ha, I'm not sure I'd want to take it on. I haven't really GMed anything in years and the setup would be monstrous - not to mention the time taken to run it.

I'll spend some time with a map and a calculator tomorrow, but if it looks like too much work I'll not be getting involved. I do have a life, even if it seems I have a lot of spare time!
 
Famine
Ha, I'm not sure I'd want to take it on. I haven't really GMed anything in years and the setup would be monstrous - not to mention the time taken to run it.

I'll spend some time with a map and a calculator tomorrow, but if it looks like too much work I'll not be getting involved. I do have a life, even if it seems I have a lot of spare time!

Excellent! Good luck!
 

I'll spend some time with a map and a calculator tomorrow, but if it looks like too much work I'll not be getting involved. I do have a life, even if it seems I have a lot of spare time![/color]

Admittedly, even that you have enough time to consider this surprises me. Thanks for the consideration, I guess, on behalf of those who would likely not understand what you're doing for them.
 
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