Credit and Power Pack Confusion.

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I guess we re-learned a thing or two here. Reading before buying and be wary of selling tactics. It is ok to make mistakes and marketing can be confusing sometimes. Happy DLC and happy 1.65 everyone! May Christmas homescreen menu music appease us all in the coming weeks! And may Lord Kaz protect our ears from Mariah Carey's Christmas song.
 
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Don't you think that was part of their strategy?
well...yeah. I do. lol. That what I'm saying. But, it may not have been. Maybe it was just an innocent consequence of the way things are set up on the store. But now, a week later after it's become obvious people are making the mistake? How bout putting a note in big read lettering on the mtx buy page that it's in fact NOT the power pack? Something at least...although the damage has already been done really. It's the "shut up and take my money" folks who will get bit by this not the late comers who are just looking at what's there for dlc for the game.
 
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I did the exact same thing.. and just got off the phone with SAONY, AND THAT WAS A WASTE OF TIME.. since you purchased ingane credits, no refund.. so sorry too bad.Thank you.Come again..
 
Sure. Why not? It wouldn't have cost Sony anything (other than of course the money they make from people mistakenly buying the wrong thing...hmmm)
Because one should not lazy nor dumb, especially with your money. At some point you’re gonna have to sign some sort of legal contract and you sure as **** better know what you’re signing.
 
I saw the option to buy the credits but didn't because I didn't think there was any way Sony would put up a button to buy the Power Pack without it screaming HEY THE POWER PACK LOOK AT THIS GAMER GUY DON'T YOU WANT TO BUY THE POWER PACK?! and I was right.
 
Because one should not lazy nor dumb, especially with your money. At some point you’re gonna have to sign some sort of legal contract and you sure as **** better know what you’re signing.
we're not talking about a mortgage or legal documents here. We're talking about a game add on. It's not that hard to imagine someone assuming the buy button that just appeared for the first time on their screen for a thing they have been expecting for weeks on the day it was expected for the price they have been expecting is in fact the thing they have been expecting rather than some other thing nobody was expecting.
 
we're not talking about a mortgage or legal documents here. We're talking about a game add on. It's not that hard to imagine someone assuming the buy button that just appeared for the first time on their screen for a thing they have been expecting for weeks on the day it was expected for the price they have been expecting is in fact the thing they have been expecting rather than some other thing nobody was expecting.
I work with the general public, and i am witness to a disturbing number of people who aren't paying the slightest bit of attention to what they are/aren't paying for and often how much it costs. Only when the transaction is completed do they turn around and try and blame the nearest working person for their mistake. In this sense i understand the gist of the comment you're replying to here.

Obviously, the example we are all discussing is largely insignificant to the world at large, but the overarching attitude is the same.

That being said, sales techniques of this sort are terrible and intentionally exploitative, in my opinion.
 
we're not talking about a mortgage or legal documents here. We're talking about a game add on. It's not that hard to imagine someone assuming the buy button that just appeared for the first time on their screen for a thing they have been expecting for weeks on the day it was expected for the price they have been expecting is in fact the thing they have been expecting rather than some other thing nobody was expecting.
Right. Yet, somehow, people still managed to screw that up. Imagine what these people will do when hit with a short story worth documents to sign. You can litigate all you want to, you’re still going to be held liable. I guess that’s why they call it “PAYING attention”.

I work with the general public, and i am witness to a disturbing number of people who aren't paying the slightest bit of attention to what they are/aren't paying for and often how much it costs. Only when the transaction is completed do they turn around and try and blame the nearest working person for their mistake. In this sense i understand the gist of the comment you're replying to here.

Obviously, the example we are all discussing is largely insignificant to the world at large, but the overarching attitude is the same.

That being said, sales techniques of this sort are terrible and intentionally exploitative, in my opinion.
I’d only call it exploitative if they’ve never had an offer to purchase credits there before.
 
Surely you also knew the Power Pack was called the Power Pack though? And still bought the thing not called the Power Pack?
But yes... actually, I bought that Power Pack... don't worry... I didn't make the same mistake twice... 😂 😂

Come on, it's no big deal... Let's just chalk it up to my 76 years... That'll teach me... I never buy anything online, or almost never... This time, I clicked too quickly... And it's such a pain to pay with PayPal, the bank, you have to log in, they send you a text message, etc... Pffff

I just sold my T300RS, PS4, and PS3... (it leaves a void on the shelves...)...
the PS5 is more than paid for, and so are the €30 I lost...😂😂😂
 
Right. Yet, somehow, people still managed to screw that up. Imagine what these people will do when hit with a short story worth documents to sign. You can litigate all you want to, you’re still going to be held liable. I guess that’s why they call it “PAYING attention”.
OK so what you're saying is a company like Sony bears no responsibility wrt this sort of thing? They can do anything they want and never have to answer for anything? Buyer beware is the final word and Sony can use whatever tactics they want.

If for instance I'm signing mortgage docs and the bank guy happens to slip a page in that is actually me signing over the rights to my car and I inadvertently sign that too...then it's just buyer beware?
 
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Sony bears no responsibility ... Sony can use whatever tactics they want.
As a reminder, it's the exact same "tactic" as with every other title. The Add-Ons are listed in the exact same manner in every game where one Add-On is also a highlighted item.

You've not really addressed this nor why you think GT7 should be held to different standards.
 
As a reminder, it's the exact same "tactic" as with every other title. The Add-Ons are listed in the exact same manner in every game where one Add-On is also a highlighted item.

You've not really addressed this nor why you think GT7 should be held to different standards.
so when an update comes out for say WRC or something and it includes a few new cars and a track for a given price ... say $15, there's always an un-announced coincidental update for another thing nobody wants that is also $15 and happens to get featured prominently instead of the update that was announced?
 
I work with the general public, and i am witness to a disturbing number of people who aren't paying the slightest bit of attention to what they are/aren't paying for and often how much it costs. Only when the transaction is completed do they turn around and try and blame the nearest working person for their mistake. In this sense i understand the gist of the comment you're replying to here.

Obviously, the example we are all discussing is largely insignificant to the world at large, but the overarching attitude is the same.

That being said, sales techniques of this sort are terrible and intentionally exploitative, in my opinion.
Again, it really don't think it was the intention of Sony or anyone there to be tricking anyone.
I agree there was opportunity for them to make it clearer from your perspective
But ultimately it was the buyers' responsibility to ensure what they are paying for.

No one was putting a gun on anyone

You guys rushed, and fumbled. It's on you. Stop trying to blame it on anyone else.
More than ever before, we all live in a capitalist society, so you should have been more careful.

People don't take the time to read before Anymore, so why come here to read after the fact.
But yes... actually, I bought that Power Pack... don't worry... I didn't make the same mistake twice... 😂 😂

Come on, it's no big deal... Let's just chalk it up to my 76 years... That'll teach me... I never buy anything online, or almost never... This time, I clicked too quickly... And it's such a pain to pay with PayPal, the bank, you have to log in, they send you a text message, etc... Pffff

I just sold my T300RS, PS4, and PS3... (it leaves a void on the shelves...)...
the PS5 is more than paid for, and so are the €30 I lost...😂😂😂
You should change your name to

Samasaoule ;)
 
so when an update comes out for say WRC or something and it includes a few new cars and a track for a given price ... say $15, there's always an un-announced coincidental update for another thing nobody wants that is also $15 and happens to get featured prominently instead of the update that was announced?
It was announced, both items are listed in the patch notes.
 
OK so what you're saying is a company like Sony bears no responsibility wrt this sort of thing? They can do anything they want and never have to answer for anything? Buyer beware is the final word and Sony can use whatever tactics they want.

If for instance I'm signing mortgage docs and the bank guy happens to slip a page in that is actually me signing over the rights to my car and I inadvertently sign that too...then it's just buyer beware?
If you went to the grocery in a rush to buy some eggs and bought some oranges because they were by the door and the same price as the eggs, is the grocery store liable?

As a person who works in banking, there’s a million reasons why that mortgage analogy doesn’t work but, I’ll entertain it on the level it was presented. Yes, if the buyer signed a legally binding document that turned the house over to the mortgage officer at the end of the loan, the buyer would be up the creek. The signature represents the acknowledgment of the agreement with the lender. Thats why they exist. To keep records of the exact terms of the agreement.
 
of course it could be more obvious. They could have made sure the item featured on the game screen
DO you mean when you START THE GAME and it shows you a giant pirate ship?

Or, are you referring to the screens that @Famine posted showing PS5 screens where you had multiple selections.
was the actual item everyone was looking for that specific day rather than the item nobody wanted that they happened to release essentially un-announced at the same time for the same price. Simple.
For those who were looking for the Power Pack, it would be the GIANT ICON that says Power Pack, not the giant icon that does not say power pack.

All you are doing in underscoring the complete ineptitude of some people, and how those people should have all decision making ability removed due to this enormous incapacity to follow the simplest of instructions.
 
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DO you mean when you START THE GAME and it shows you a giant pirate ship?

Or, are you referring to the screens that @Famine posted showing PS5 screens where you had multiple selections.
I mean this...

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If you went to the grocery in a rush to buy some eggs and bought some oranges because they were by the door and the same price as the eggs, is the grocery store liable?

As a person who works in banking, there’s a million reasons why that mortgage analogy doesn’t work but, I’ll entertain it on the level it was presented. Yes, if the buyer signed a legally binding document that turned the house over to the mortgage officer at the end of the loan, the buyer would be up the creek. The signature represents the acknowledgment of the agreement with the lender. Thats why they exist. To keep records of the exact terms of the agreement.
I'm pretty sure the example I gave would be fraud.
 
I'm pretty sure the example I gave would be fraud.
On a technical I-clearly-really-don’t-know-what-im-talking-about level, you’re still wrong but…I’ll give it to you just to say that still doesn’t represent what happened here.
 
hahaha "announced." Patch notes. Jeez. With that kind of publicity I'm shocked there wasn't a 200 page thread about the upcoming 5M credit mtx release! :lol:
Fair enough. I guess if reading the words 'Power Pack' proved difficult, skimming through the patch notes would have been impossible!
 
Please do not reinterpret what I have very clearly stated and restated to you.

The highlighted Add-On, where one is highlighted is always the most recent and, where multiple have been released at once, the alphabetically first, in all games of which I am aware.

I checked this, and showed you two examples: Project Motor Racing and Test Drive Unlimited Solar Crown.

GT7 follows this format. It appears to be a standard, or even a rule.

Now, instead of reinterpreting it and deciding that means anything other than exactly what I said, please address why you think GT7 should not be subject to the same standard as every other title.
 
Please do not reinterpret what I have very clearly stated and restated to you.

The highlighted Add-On, where one is highlighted is always the most recent and, where multiple have been released at once, the alphabetically first, in all games of which I am aware.

I checked this, and showed you two examples: Project Motor Racing and Test Drive Unlimited Solar Crown.

GT7 follows this format. It appears to be a standard, or even a rule.

Now, instead of reinterpreting it and deciding that means anything other than exactly what I said, please address why you think GT7 should not be subject to the same standard as every other title.
OK fair enough. Sorry for being a little facetious. I just find it sort of wild that - in light of the fact that we're talking about the first purchasable DLC for the game...kind of a big deal - the thing that appears on the screen there is in fact not that dlc but another "add on pack" costing the same amount. I guess if that's the only way it could work then so be it.
 
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