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Famine

The pyramids were built by thousands of slaves, thanks to hundreds of blokes with whips and dogs, in order to provide burial grounds for their Pharoahs - who were effectively man-gods - that would not be forgotten over time and shifting sands.
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One of the biggest myths about the Pyramids is that they were built by "slaves". The recent texts discovered, have accounts of the workers. They were the most highly skilled stone masons the Pharaoh could find, and very well paid. It was an honour to work on a Pyramid and it would also be a lifetimes work. Scouts from the Pharaohs were sent to villages and approached skilled stone workers, they would ask them to leave their families and come work on the greatest project of all. Their family may never see them again, but they were overjoyed that there son, or husband had been "Chosen".
 
ND4SPD
You do know that not a lot of people here know my first name is Jeff.
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They do now.

And Famine, 5 thumbs up for your hilarious sarcasm! 👍👍👍👍👍

Pyramids were not built by aliens. And why would aliens go for the rectum unless they are all George Michael's evil twins?

Pyramids were built by the children from "Honey, I Blew Up the Kids".
 
Tacet_Blue
One of the biggest myths about the Pyramids is that they were built by "slaves". The recent texts discovered, have accounts of the workers. They were the most highly skilled stone masons the Pharaoh could find, and very well paid. It was an honour to work on a Pyramid and it would also be a lifetimes work. Scouts from the Pharaohs were sent to villages and approached skilled stone workers, they would ask them to leave their families and come work on the greatest project of all. Their family may never see them again, but they were overjoyed that there son, or husband had been "Chosen".
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I am unaware of anything regarding the stone luggers themselves. The stone cutters, yes...

As far as I'm aware, all of the people actually moving the stones were slaves. I'd be interested to read anything you can throw at me though.
 
Famine
I am unaware of anything regarding the stone luggers themselves. The stone cutters, yes...

As far as I'm aware, all of the people actually moving the stones were slaves. I'd be interested to read anything you can throw at me though.
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I wasn't ragging on your point.:)

Yes the stone luggers, and the guys who cut them from the quarries were not of the same high skill as the men who finished the stones. But from what I've read and seen, even the task of moving a stone was a skillfull job for the highly trained. They were using A Frame cranes which required a team of men to work in an amazingly coordinated way. There may have been the odd slave to carry water and food and fetch and carry but most of the work was very difficult.

Many teams of researches have tried to build small scale replicas and they all end up having total respect for the pyramid builders, even hauling one block of 5 ton stone is a pretty impressive task.
I'll see if I can dig out some texts later, I'm off out now, but the BBC did a very good documentary on it last year, you might want to search their site.
 
Here we are Famine...I know this is not about crop circles but the thread creator did say the Pyramids were built by aliens...so to continue.

The Greek historian Herodotus tells us that the Great Pyramid was built by 100,000 slaves who 'laboured constantly and were relieved every three months by a fresh gang'. He is, however, wrong. King Khufu - 4th Dynasty ruler of Egypt - the royal responsible for the commissioning of the Great Pyramid, did not have a vast body of slaves at his disposal, and even if he had, there was no way that 100,000 could work simultaneously on one pyramid.

All archaeologists have their own methods of calculating the number of workers employed at Giza, but most agree that the Great Pyramid was built by approximately 4,000 primary labourers (quarry workers, hauliers and masons). They would have been supported by 16-20,000 secondary workers (ramp builders, tool-makers, mortar mixers and those providing back-up services such as supplying food, clothing and fuel). This gives a total of 20-25,000, labouring for 20 years or more.
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The workers may be sub-divided into a permanent workforce of some 5,000 salaried employees
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Source BBC History

The above is a excerpt from the documentary I saw...I found it very interesting myself
 
Actually it didn't look weird, the rock 'flying' on a kite. The rock was sitting underneath this contraption with four legs and the there was a beam in the middle. A rope went from the top of the rock to the kite and then the kite blew it pulled the string against the beam which lifted the rock. It wasn't just the rock and the kite sitting there and as the kite lifted so did the rock. It was somewhat like an oversized pulley without the wheels.
 
I always thought the stone luggers actually lugged the stones up the Pyramid. I've never heard of any sort of Kite contraption...
 
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Tacet_Blue
I wasn't ragging on your point.:)

Yes the stone luggers, and the guys who cut them from the quarries were not of the same high skill as the men who finished the stones. But from what I've read and seen, even the task of moving a stone was a skillfull job for the highly trained. They were using A Frame cranes which required a team of men to work in an amazingly coordinated way. There may have been the odd slave to carry water and food and fetch and carry but most of the work was very difficult.

Many teams of researches have tried to build small scale replicas and they all end up having total respect for the pyramid builders, even hauling one block of 5 ton stone is a pretty impressive task.
I'll see if I can dig out some texts later, I'm off out now, but the BBC did a very good documentary on it last year, you might want to search their site.
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As far as I've ever been aware the stones were pulled up the ramps and stuff by slaves. You'd have to find me something bloody convincing to make me think otherwise. I know that skilled masons architects etc. worked on the pyramid but I never heard of a team of people being payed to move a giant stone.

If the slaves didn't move all the damn stones who did? I really can't imagine the Pharaoh paying for 100,000 skilled rock pullers to build these pyramids when he could just get 100,000 slaves for free (essentially)...
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Signs is a horrible movie.
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Indeed it is...

Hey Tacet... I am very interested in this new news regarding the pyramids creation... I would be most appreciative of any links you could give me explaining the new discovery and the process of the build... Seriously, I am very interested...

As for crop circles...

It's pretty obvious they are a hoax... Even the really ellaborate intricate designs, have been proven to be created by humans... It's a classic case of copy cat syndrome... Once the process of creation is in the open, you can expect to see the act being caried out all over the world... Pure and simple...


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IN my back yard there is something in the long grass that looks a bit like crop circles, only not circles. Its either UFO's or some strange thing with the wind.
 
Blake
As far as I've ever been aware the stones were pulled up the ramps and stuff by slaves. You'd have to find me something bloody convincing to make me think otherwise. I know that skilled masons architects etc. worked on the pyramid but I never heard of a team of people being payed to move a giant stone.

If the slaves didn't move all the damn stones who did? I really can't imagine the Pharaoh paying for 100,000 skilled rock pullers to build these pyramids when he could just get 100,000 slaves for free (essentially)...
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Didn't you read my post #35.

"King Khufu - 4th Dynasty ruler of Egypt - the royal responsible for the commissioning of the Great Pyramid, did not have a vast body of slaves at his disposal, and even if he had, there was no way that 100,000 could work simultaneously on one pyramid."

The Private Lives of the Pyramid Builders

'...graffiti show that the builders of the third Giza pyramid named themselves the 'Friends of Menkaure' and the 'Drunkards of Menkaure'.'

"The standard Old Kingdom (2686-2181 BC) ration for a labourer was ten loaves and a measure of beer."

The Temporary Workers

The work was too skilled for untrained slaves to have achieved it. Even dragging a huge rock requires alot of coordination and team work...The image of slave leaders and whips is from films.

@syliviadrifter: check some of those links, and there are further links on the pages

Including The Gateway to Eternity
 
Tacet_Blue
"King Khufu - 4th Dynasty ruler of Egypt - the royal responsible for the commissioning of the Great Pyramid, did not have a vast body of slaves at his disposal, and even if he had, there was no way that 100,000 could work simultaneously on one pyramid."
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Of the Pyramids we know about, how many were really built one at a time?

Just curious... :D
 
Famine
Of the Pyramids we know about, how many were really built one at a time?

Just curious... :D
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What am I...a Pyramid expert :lol:
He just didn't have that many slaves, I don't know why they added that "even if he had " comment...

For those really interested...these are two recent publications:

Private Lives of the Pharaohs by J Tyldesley (London, 2000)

The Pyramids: Their Archaeology and History by M Verner (London, 2002)

The author of the text I have been quoting from is Dr Joyce Tyldesley an Honorary Research Fellow from Liverpool University. She has taught archaeology and Egyptology at many levels and has excavated and surveyed in both Egypt and Europe. Her book on the origins of the Egyptian Pyramids, published by Viking/Penguin in May 2003.

And btw they did do DNA tests on the workers remains that they found, just to check out some theories.
"...After comparing DNA samples taken from the workers' bones with samples taken from modern Egyptians, Dr Moamina Kamal of Cairo University Medical School has suggested that Khufu's pyramid was a truly nationwide project, with workers drawn to Giza from all over Egypt. She has discovered no trace of any alien race; human or intergalactic, as suggested in some of the more imaginative 'pyramid theories'..." :)

Also that lends strength to the "no slaves" argument, as the workers seem to have been headhunted, and drawn from all over Egypt. The quality of their goods, and the villages they lived in were of fairly high status.



Now...back to crop circles....I saw Scary Movie 3 last night, is it true that the aliens have come to earth to find the little girl in the well because they accidentally watched that video :lol:
 
That is so pathetic, I mean Scary Movie was great, 2 was meh but 3 was just pathetic.

Back to Pyramids, I did read your posts. I'm wondering, if the Pharaoh didn't have his slaves (one of Egypts biggest imports) working on the pyramids, what the hell was he doing with them, having them do his spring cleaning...
 
Blake
Back to Pyramids, I did read your posts. I'm wondering, if the Pharaoh didn't have his slaves (one of Egypts biggest imports) working on the pyramids, what the hell was he doing with them, having them do his spring cleaning...
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I don't doubt that a slave trade existed in Egypt, but it was mainly ordinary people who bought slaves for menial tasks around the home or to work in the fields etc.

"Unlike what happened in ancient Rome for instance, where the trade in slaves was often in the hands of rich merchants and took place in slave markets, the Egyptian slave trade was seemingly small scale. During pharaonic times no slave markets seem to have existed."

Slaves owned by the Pharoah's were more likely to be female, and you can guess what they were for :) certainly not construction work...

"Amenhotep III ordered 40 girls from Milkilu, the Canaanite prince of Gezer, at 40 kit of silver each
Behold, I have sent you Hanya, the commissioner of the archers, with merchandise in order to have beautiful concubines, i.e. weavers; silver, gold, garments, turquoises, all sorts of precious stones, chairs of ebony, as well as all good things, worth 160 deben. In total: forty concubines - the price of every concubine is forty of silver. Therefore, send very beautiful concubines without blemish. "
 
So they were doing his spring cleaning ;)

Uhh, when he wasn't busy with them...But the Pharaoh had a heap of wives anyway so "slaves" would be almost (not completly ;)) redundant for this particular fask.
 
Blake
So they were doing his spring cleaning ;)

Uhh, when he wasn't busy with them...But the Pharaoh had a heap of wives anyway so "slaves" would be almost (not completly ;)) redundant for this particular fask.
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The Egyptian Pharoaohs actually had a "real" wife. These were important powerful women. Polygamy did happen but there was a distinction between the "real" wife and the ceremonial ones. The wife of Tutankhamun, was Ankhesenamunk, the Valley of the Queens shows how much prestige these women had.

"Egyptian kings had always had secondary wives, probably to increase the odds of having the all important son to inherit the throne, but the royal harem was small and discrete and kept very much in the background."

The large numbers of concubine slaves purchased by pharaoh's may have actually been to entertain the nobles and dignitaries that visited court, and not for personal use ;)

I still maintain that the pyramid builders were not slaves..here's some more evidence :)

"Slaves, mercenaries, and draftees were often used in the army. It is believed, however, that Egyptian slaves were not used to construct sacred monuments, such as the Pyramids. Egyptologists were led to this conclusion by recent finding of worker burial grounds near such monuments. The workers received proper Egyptian burials, whereas slaves did not."

Here's an amazing pyramid fact...The Great Pyramid of Giza was the tallest man made structure right up until the Eiffel tower was built in 1889, that's approximately 4449 years... :crazy:
That's a record that will be hard to beat :)

PS I've always had a fascination with the Great Pyramids, and it has been nice to share that with you guys...even in a crop circle thread...;)
 
Ahh interesting Tacet, that's much more concluding evidence to me, good find 👍 Yeah, we sort of put this thread offf topic a fair bit, but it's interesting.
 
I'm 99% sure of that, especially thanks to Tacet_Blue and Famine. Read the last couple of pages where they have told about it. Tacet_Blue has brought some pretty good points and links to information up.
 
Do'h thats what I get for skipping to the 3rd page! :P


Well I dont think that they were built by aliens. I wasnt really referring to aliens anyway. But a connection with space? I was on some site and it said theres a relation in geomerty, matching patterns to stars and what not. Bah its just another strange website anyway heh.
 
Jimmy Enslashay
I'm 99% sure of that, especially thanks to Tacet_Blue and Famine. Read the last couple of pages where they have told about it. Tacet_Blue has brought some pretty good points and links to information up.
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I'm 99.9% sure that the pyramids were not built by aliens :) (I always work with a 0.1% margin of error)

But there is a tenuous link with outer space. The alignment of the three Pyramids (Menkaure, Khafre and Khufu) align with the stars Mintaka, Alnilam and Alnitak that form the bright stars in Orions belt.

Also more mysteriously, is the shafts cut into the Pyramids that align with the constellation Leo (probably why the Sphinx is a Lion) at a particular time in history. The odd thing is...that the point of alignment is 10,450BC...which is confusing since the great Pyramid is thought to be built around 2600BC the builders must have had amazing knowledge of the precession of the stars ( a 26,000 year cycle) to be able to predict this...also the Sphinx itself shows signs of weathering from tropical rain, not just wind, and this would match the 10000BC timeline. This is one of the riddles of the Sphinx :)

The attachment shows the alignment of the three pyramids that match Orions belt, even their size is relative to the stars brightness. The picture was taken by the Ikonos satellite
 

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Tacet_Blue
I'm 99.9% sure that the pyramids were not built by aliens :) (I always work with a 0.1% margin of error)

But there is a tenuous link with outer space. The alignment of the three Pyramids (Menkaure, Khafre and Khufu) align with the stars Mintaka, Alnilam and Alnitak that form the bright stars in Orions belt.

Also more mysteriously, is the shafts cut into the Pyramids that align with the constellation Leo (probably why the Sphinx is a Lion) at a particular time in history. The odd thing is...that the point of alignment is 10,450BC...which is confusing since the great Pyramid is thought to be built around 2600BC the builders must have had amazing knowledge of the precession of the stars ( a 26,000 year cycle) to be able to predict this...also the Sphinx itself shows signs of weathering from tropical rain, not just wind, and this would match the 10000BC timeline. This is one of the riddles of the Sphinx :)

The attachment shows the alignment of the three pyramids that match Orions belt, even their size is relative to the stars brightness. The picture was taken by the Ikonos satellite
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I think thats what I was trying to say lol. I read something like that months ago but forgot. Also I was on a site yesterday showing some indication in hieroglyphics of modern flying ships that exist today, such as helicoptors and blimps.
 

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