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- Aubrey, Texas
I purchased the CSR-E Pedal set when I purchased the CSR-E wheel. I moved from the G27 wheel/pedal set at that time.
I decided to upgrade from the CSR-E to CSP V2 not because I was unhappy but because I was intrigued by adding the dampened brake system. I really liked the upgrade to load cell braking and wanted to take it a step further in feel and control if possible.
I received the CSP V2 set yesterday. I was truly surprised at the difference in construction. CSR-E pedels are high quality construction on a plastic base, the CSW is all metal construction and is VERY robust.
For example the side frames are 0.310" (7.8mm) metal. The potentiameters and load cells are enclosed in metal blocks not plastic. I thought the pedal plates on the CSR-E were nice these are incredibe. For example the CSR-E plates are 0.12" (3mm) thick while the CSP V2 are 0.145" (3.7mm). The foot plates are larger, more refined in shape and the edges are more heavily rounded.
I filled the damper with the 1200 silicone oil. This was a pain because the bottles are very stiff and it is difficult to disperse the oil, particularly trying to minimize bubbles. I will feel like a mechanic checking and topping up the damper on the race rig because you have to bury your head just over the pedal set to do the job.
In regard to installation it required modification to the foot pad on my Playseat. I had to install a wooden plank to attach the CSR-E pedals to the foot assemble on the Playseat. The bolt holes on the CSP V2 are the same width as the CSR-E but the CSW V2 is shorter. I had to drill new holes as well buy some bolts to attach it. The CSR-E pedals had tapped holes and screws for attachment. The CSW has holes drilled on the four corners of the frame.
The cabling is identical so I just used the cables that had attached the CSR-E set. This was a big help because to attach new cables would have required a fair amount of work on the CSR-E wheel and a bunch of cable tie work to get new cabling installed and fixed in place.
Once completed I started up GT5. The pedals worked fine without any issue. I tuned the break force with the controller to match what I used on the CSR-E pedals. I started to drive in the just released Seasonal which is for 1960's cars, at 500pp on comfort soft tires. I run no aids and therefore no abs. This is an excellent test of breaking as these cars don't have great breaks and the comfort soft tires will break lose easily. I certainly could tell a difference in the feel of the breaks. There is a wider breaking zone where you can feather the breaks more easily. I like the feel and believe it will improve my times.
There is no change in how the accelerator feels, it is excellent.
I love the feel of the clutch but I'm not going to use it until a CSW shifter is available and probably not until the games make it possible for the clutch to be adjusted to the pedal so that you have an accurate simulation of what it's like to drive with a clutch. At least I have a pedal set that will be capable.
This is my experience so far and will report later on my driving experience as I accumulate more time with it.
I decided to upgrade from the CSR-E to CSP V2 not because I was unhappy but because I was intrigued by adding the dampened brake system. I really liked the upgrade to load cell braking and wanted to take it a step further in feel and control if possible.
I received the CSP V2 set yesterday. I was truly surprised at the difference in construction. CSR-E pedels are high quality construction on a plastic base, the CSW is all metal construction and is VERY robust.
For example the side frames are 0.310" (7.8mm) metal. The potentiameters and load cells are enclosed in metal blocks not plastic. I thought the pedal plates on the CSR-E were nice these are incredibe. For example the CSR-E plates are 0.12" (3mm) thick while the CSP V2 are 0.145" (3.7mm). The foot plates are larger, more refined in shape and the edges are more heavily rounded.
I filled the damper with the 1200 silicone oil. This was a pain because the bottles are very stiff and it is difficult to disperse the oil, particularly trying to minimize bubbles. I will feel like a mechanic checking and topping up the damper on the race rig because you have to bury your head just over the pedal set to do the job.
In regard to installation it required modification to the foot pad on my Playseat. I had to install a wooden plank to attach the CSR-E pedals to the foot assemble on the Playseat. The bolt holes on the CSP V2 are the same width as the CSR-E but the CSW V2 is shorter. I had to drill new holes as well buy some bolts to attach it. The CSR-E pedals had tapped holes and screws for attachment. The CSW has holes drilled on the four corners of the frame.
The cabling is identical so I just used the cables that had attached the CSR-E set. This was a big help because to attach new cables would have required a fair amount of work on the CSR-E wheel and a bunch of cable tie work to get new cabling installed and fixed in place.
Once completed I started up GT5. The pedals worked fine without any issue. I tuned the break force with the controller to match what I used on the CSR-E pedals. I started to drive in the just released Seasonal which is for 1960's cars, at 500pp on comfort soft tires. I run no aids and therefore no abs. This is an excellent test of breaking as these cars don't have great breaks and the comfort soft tires will break lose easily. I certainly could tell a difference in the feel of the breaks. There is a wider breaking zone where you can feather the breaks more easily. I like the feel and believe it will improve my times.
There is no change in how the accelerator feels, it is excellent.
I love the feel of the clutch but I'm not going to use it until a CSW shifter is available and probably not until the games make it possible for the clutch to be adjusted to the pedal so that you have an accurate simulation of what it's like to drive with a clutch. At least I have a pedal set that will be capable.
This is my experience so far and will report later on my driving experience as I accumulate more time with it.
