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Alex_Figueroa
What are your thoughts on the new Honda crz both real life and in GT5?
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personally i wouldnt mind driving it in real life looks pretty cool
its a hybrid sports coupe rather drive this than a toyota prius plus is 6MT:)
 
It's not fast, which would be fine if got awesome fuel economy, but it doesn't. It's too heavy to handle well. It's also not particularly cheap, either. Basically, it sucks at everything and is inferior in almost every aspect to a 20 year old CRX Si. Failbucket.
 
Give me a CR-Z with the Civic Si's K20 and then we're talking. The whole "sporty hybrid" thing just doesn't work.
 
The CR-Z is a missed opportunity. All Honda did was make the Insight platform sporty, and then they figured that was enough to make a 'sports hybrid.' They seem to have done nothing to the engine.

How about showing some real innovation and implementing the 'hybrid' part in a sporty way? Make the electric motor setup more aggressive so that you get more power from it than in Insight trim(at the expense of duration), maybe even to the point where you can feel a slight kick as it engages. A subtle change in programming probably could have done the trick, but it's almost as if Honda doesn't care.
 
I would rather get a VW Polo 1.4 BlueMotion
Or maybe the most fuel efficient vehicle according to Top Gear. A diesel Jag.
 
Can this car be tuned in the game? I haven't given it a thought as to buy, but if I can tune it and get something out of it, maybe.
 
I've finally started seeing them on the road, and I'm disappointed just how much it looks like the original Insight from the back.

That said, I'd trade my Civic Si for a K20-powered CRZ Si or Type R in a heartbeat.
 
Can this car be tuned in the game? I haven't given it a thought as to buy, but if I can tune it and get something out of it, maybe.

It's the car I used the most so far in A-spec, from beginner events to expert, as the tunes work really well.

Mine is currently 334 bhp , 950kg and tops out at 293 km/h (without slipstream). With proper suspension the understeer is quite ok as well, as long as you're aware that you're driving a FF vehicle.
 
I've got the Spoon CRZ (tuned) in the game and it's super quick round the Nurburgring (faster than stock M5 and R8 5.2 with half the power). It looks great too. Really underrated car.
 
IRL, I think it's an OK car if you're not looking for a fire breather but a daily driver that's also fun to drive. It has really fun handling and it's reasonably quick. I think most people slacking it off just drove it in GT5 and base their opinions on that (comparing it to an SLS or whatnot) or don't even have a drivers license and assume any car with less than 300 hp is crap. Seriously... My only complaint is the lack of top end power. It just gets too linear above 4.500 rpm which is OK for pootling about in town but I personally like more of a sprint where the engine pulls all the way to the red line. Nothing an aftermarket camshaft and a tune can't fix. They have their reasons not to make it like that though, since the new Euro 5 norms are in place and the CR-Z is mainly aimed at the European market as a competitor for the Mini One/Cooper (not the S) and the VW Scirocco 1.4 TSI. Mind you, they have to keep within a certain median emissions range calculated over the total sales over the entire model range, so if they made a 200 hp CR-Z and they sell 3.000 of them the first year they're in trouble if they don't release some cheap and equally succesful low emission model parallel to it. That's why they killed off the Civic Type-R in Europe this year: it sold too well and they risked facing a big fine if they continued selling it like that. It's also the reason why they hold back the NSX successor (forgot the name), and Toyota (Lexus) charge 300k for the LFA which was supposed to be the successor to the Supra and direct competition for the Nissan GT-R. Nissan made the choice to take the risk with the GT-R hoping it would generate some sales with the dreamers in the lower model echelons, Honda doesn't and Toyota (Lexus) took the middle way - after killing off ALL of their afordable sporty models (all of the T-Sports, even the Yaris T-Sport, the Celica models, the MR range,... all gone, and no Tacoma in Europe).

I haven't tried the CR-Z in the game yet apart from some snow driving in arcade, maybe I should give it a more detailed go one of these days.
 
I've got the Spoon CRZ (tuned) in the game and it's super quick round the Nurburgring (faster than stock M5 and R8 5.2 with half the power). It looks great too. Really underrated car.

I didn't try that one yet. How fast does it go around the Ring?
I did a 7:30, but I think it can be quicker if properlly driven :sly:
 
The real CRZ is a really impressive automobile to drive. It actually handles very well. Sure, it's not very fast. However, there is more to a great auto than 0-60 and 1/4 mile times. It can't truly be experienced without a drive. It's kind of like a miata, mini, and all of those old slow cars so many people have grown to appreciate over the years... except it'll pass a crash test.

I believe it is in the top10 for epa fuel economy, so it's "fairly" fuel efficient.
 
I bought one in GT5, but haven't driven it yet. :(

I did put a CF hood and wheels on it though. I wanted to build a comparable hatchback to my EK. :lol:
 
I bought one in GT5, but haven't driven it yet. :(

I did put a CF hood and wheels on it though. I wanted to build a comparable hatchback to my EK. :lol:

One of these days I'm going to build a CTR clone (or just import a real one in a few years) I love EK's. Off topic, but what do you have done to yours?

I had an EG coupe with a b16a and it loved to be thrashed to 9,000rpm. Fun cars those Vtec civics.
 
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