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Quick question.

Why didn't the Dems release the Epstein files if they're so intent on them being released now? They were in power and had every opportunity to do so after all.

Just political grandstanding I presume.
Their guys are on the list too.
 
No doubt they are, so...



...because they don't really want it released either.

They're all scumbags.
Yep.

That's the difference between the intelligence of Biden's & Trump's administrations, though. Despite all the crying from Maga, Biden's administration just ignored the Epstein stuff b/c they knew it involved people on both sides. Trump, being the moron he is, brought all the attention to it as the most guilty associate of Epstein. Now that they've backtracked after all that "on my desk" & "Phase 1 binder" nonsense, they're trying to put the genie back in the bottle.
 
Quick question.

Why didn't the Dems release the Epstein files if they're so intent on them being released now? They were in power and had every opportunity to do so after all.

Just political grandstanding I presume.
Lets just say that a list maybe never existed, perhaps there were just flight logs to his island and a little black book of his contacts. The 'list' is just a simplified way of grouping Epstein's accociates from over the years. Some of them may well be dodgy, and some, i assume, are good people.

The concept of a 'potentially very damaging list' existing was used by republicans to throw shade on the democrats whilst in power. Now the republicans are in power the democrats are using the exact same tactics to sow seeds of doubt on the republicans, specifically Trump. Hence why the White House are trying so hard to shut the rumor of a list down, even when they were the ones who weaponised it in the first place.
 
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Quick question.

Why didn't the Dems release the Epstein files if they're so intent on them being released now? They were in power and had every opportunity to do so after all.

Just political grandstanding I presume.
They're on it and releasing the list or whatever it is would likely collapse the entire government and cause us plebs to revolt against the rich. For all the weirdness, manipulation, and outright lies, QAnon's foundation that rich people are sex trafficking kids is probably closer to the truth that people want to admit. I don't think it's some underground sex cult where they're drinking blood or whatever, and I don't think it's strictly Democrats, but I do believe there is some truth to it. Unlike QAnon, though, I think Trump is likely part of sex trafficking, and he's not going to save us. I also don't think it's strictly American either.

Honestly, I hope Elon does have the evidence and decides to release it. Elon is a lot of things (a Nazi, an Apartheid Supporter, rich asshole), but I don't think he's a pedo (even if he likes to call others that).
 
They're on it and releasing the list or whatever it is would likely collapse the entire government and cause us plebs to revolt against the rich. For all the weirdness, manipulation, and outright lies, QAnon's foundation that rich people are sex trafficking kids is probably closer to the truth that people want to admit. I don't think it's some underground sex cult where they're drinking blood or whatever, and I don't think it's strictly Democrats, but I do believe there is some truth to it. Unlike QAnon, though, I think Trump is likely part of sex trafficking, and he's not going to save us. I also don't think it's strictly American either.

Honestly, I hope Elon does have the evidence and decides to release it. Elon is a lot of things (a Nazi, an Apartheid Supporter, rich asshole), but I don't think he's a pedo (even if he likes to call others that).
If Elon somehow had the evidence and released it, that would be a lot worse for Trump and Elon would probably end up getting himself deported.
 
Quick question.

Why didn't the Dems release the Epstein files if they're so intent on them being released now? They were in power and had every opportunity to do so after all.

Just political grandstanding I presume.
It's not supposed to be the function of government to go look for potentially embarrassing details and release them about people. How on Earth have we gotten to the point where people think this is what government is supposed to do?

Releasing salacious details about Epstein is a job for journalists and courts (where crimes were committed). Not congress, and not the executive. Just try to imagine a world where every time someone was accused of a crime, or every time the government was in possession of information that suggested someone MIGHT be found guilty of crime in a court, the government released that information and smeared that person outside of the judicial process. We're supposed to be innocent until proven guilty, and we're not supposed to be subject to our government finding dirt on us and releasing it whether we're guilty or not. Basically, nothing about this is how things are supposed to work.

So why are democrats voting for it now? Because Trump promised something he can't deliver and the people still want it. It's not a principled position, but a political one intent on uncovering his reluctance. refusal, or inability to deliver a central theme of his campaign.
 
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They're on it and releasing the list or whatever it is would likely collapse the entire government and cause us plebs to revolt against the rich. For all the weirdness, manipulation, and outright lies, QAnon's foundation that rich people are sex trafficking kids is probably closer to the truth that people want to admit. I don't think it's some underground sex cult where they're drinking blood or whatever, and I don't think it's strictly Democrats, but I do believe there is some truth to it. Unlike QAnon, though, I think Trump is likely part of sex trafficking, and he's not going to save us. I also don't think it's strictly American either.

Honestly, I hope Elon does have the evidence and decides to release it. Elon is a lot of things (a Nazi, an Apartheid Supporter, rich asshole), but I don't think he's a pedo (even if he likes to call others that).
Projection runs deep in that circle though, & Elon himself has tried to say he has zero relationship with Ghislaine claiming she photobombed him & he has never met her. And that he only visited Epstein's penthouse once. Of course, there's also that circulated e-mail snapshot Snopes said was false, but changed to unproven when the exchange was apparently cited in a court document.
Musk also confirmed meeting now-indicted sex trafficker Ghislane Maxwell at judo practice—whichMusk publicly admitted to training in on May 7, 2020 in an interview with Joe Rogan—on May 28, 2016 in an undisclosed e-mail exchange with the now-deceased serial rapist, child molester and sex trafficker Jeffrey E. Epstein, also a convicted felon at the time. (Defendant Tesla has also been sued repeatedly for human trafficking.) In 2020, Defendant Musk lied publicly about his relationship with Maxwell, claiming, “Don’t know Ghislaine at all” in response to a 2014 photograph of them at a party. Based on public reports, Epstein also introduced Tesla Director Kimbal Musk to a former girlfriend.

Is it definitive proof? No, but conveniently being photographed with her, visiting Epstein, his brother being hooked up by Epstein, all things that weirdly point in that direction. I think the only reason he won't share any proof is because he knows it'll incriminate himself or people close to him.
 
It's not supposed to be the function of government to go look for potentially embarrassing details and release them about people. How on Earth have we gotten to the point where people think this is what government is supposed to do?

Releasing salacious details about Epstein is a job for journalists and courts (where crimes were committed). Not congress, and not the executive. Just try to imagine a world where every time someone was accused of a crime, or every time the government was in possession of information that suggested someone MIGHT be found guilty of crime in a court, the government released that information and smeared that person outside of the judicial process. We're supposed to be innocent until proven guilty, and we're not supposed to be subject to our government finding dirt on us and releasing it whether we're guilty or not. Basically, nothing about this is how things are supposed to work.
I don't think anyone cares too much about the salacious details, or Epstein. I think it's more about all of the offenders being prosecuted so the victims have closure and all the dirty, rich, perverts go to prison where they belong, not just Ghislaine Maxwell.

I don't think there's any doubt that Epstein committed the crimes. He plead guilty and was just not convicted because of, well, death.

Wasn't there quite a few witnesses that were threatened with harm of themselves and their families if they testified against the sick ****s (the ones supposedly on the list, Trump being one of them that I recall... Edit: and now this pops up in my YouTube feed). These women, who were children at the time, need their day in court and releasing the names of the (alleged) perpetrators, and charging them would go part of the way to closure for them... and likely put the perps where they belong.

They'd get their day in court, so what's the problem?

I also don't think it's strictly American either.
I don't either.
 
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They'd get their day in court, so what's the problem?
Well it takes time to bring a case, the more high profile the case the more time it takes. As we've seen with Weinstein, Cosby, Trump, OJ, etc. going after high profile targets requires a really top-notch case, because defense is easier than prosecution at the highest wealth levels. It really is, in America, like the wealthy can almost buy their way above the law. That's perhaps moreso the case today than in the recent past. The last thing you want to do is bring your case and fail. Epstein was awaiting prosecution in 2019, and his death likely made prosecuting co-conspirators harder. For reference, Maxwell (who I'd expect to be first) was convicted in Dec. 2022.

I don't know how careful Epstein was with his details. But I'm sure the Trump admin is not interested anyway.
 
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Anybody whom a case could be brought against that couldn't escape to international airspace before the cuffs were on would pull a Weinstein zimmerframe dementia job so quickly that Epstein would wake up.
 
How exactly did she get her doctorate again?

The same way all these grifters do.

Through a legitimate education they tell you to stay away from, b/c it's easier to make money being a lying pos than correcting other morons.
 
lol Cernobitch

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