Gt7 ffb query

[mr-ramsbottom]

The more you are aggressively turning the wheel the more the torque has to shift, this creates heat that heats the internals (the cogs and belts expand and the motor will be less efficient)

Typically if you are understeering a lot or turning aggressively constantly this is aggressive and works the base quite hard.

To be fair it really shouldn’t be an issue with GT just in how dialled back the torque and sensitivity is.

The wheel that was used in several GTWS was TGTs and these are the fastest guys on the planet driving the most extreme car the game has and they don’t have problems.

I see well now that I've finally got the TDF vibration working I can actually tell now when I'm over turning via vibration, the TDF is good for that, as I said earlier it just want working when the cars where set to there default degree f angle if either 720 or 900, the. Boom as soon as you change the degree on the fly to 360 it starts working.

You mentioned you had belt expand to, I just don't know at this stage if it's that or it was simply loose ?

But as for steering many top racers and coaches identify that people don't actually turn there wheel enough into the corners, it's a fine line, but with this wheel set to 360 you only have to turn half as much as if you where at 720. Which I must prefer.

The good thing about the TDF on this wheel is it does let you know if your over turning.

I recall us chatting in a previous post now, do you still have your Tgt or wish you still had. It

 

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But as for steering many top racers and coaches identify that people don't actually turn there wheel enough into the corners,

Turning enough and smoothly enough isn’t the the same as yanking the wheel, now being super quick on giving some oppo is very different to turning smoothly enough and at a pace that is matching your reduction in braking (trail braking or the alternative styles which is turn and coast)

Honestly you are focusing on the details that really come later than just getting good braking consistency and smooth error prone laps.

The wheel is not the best thing about wheel set ups, it’s mastering the footwork that’s the difference, this is why people with old G29s get in to the top 50s because they focus on the stuff that matters the most….how slow do I need to be and how fast can I hit the throttle smoothly.

The wheel is just a fidelity layer. That can complicate things. Immersive yes, the reason you go quicker…no.

I recall us chatting in a previous post now, do you still have your Tgt or wish you still had. It

I have a DD pro and I miss the TGT2 and the pedals I had but I’m as quick or quicker now and the DDP functions as expected and direct drive is always going to be more responsive.

But the quality of the TM wheel and its usability was next level!

The TLCMs can’t be beaten at the price point for a loadcell and spring.

I don’t think I have much more to add, feedback is “fine” for me weak and constantly changing but that’s the game not me.

My TGT never missed a beat, just loose in some sessions with no mods.

 

[mr-ramsbottom]

Turning enough and smoothly enough isn’t the the same as yanking the wheel, now being super quick on giving some oppo is very different to turning smoothly enough and at a pace that is matching your reduction in braking (trail braking or the alternative styles which is turn and coast)

Honestly you are focusing on the details that really come later than just getting good braking consistency and smooth error prone laps.

The wheel is not the best thing about wheel set ups, it’s mastering the footwork that’s the difference, this is why people with old G29s get in to the top 50s because they focus on the stuff that matters the most….how slow do I need to be and how fast can I hit the throttle smoothly.

The wheel is just a fidelity layer. That can complicate things. Immersive yes, the reason you go quicker…no.

I have a DD pro and I miss the TGT2 and the pedals I had but I’m as quick or quicker now and the DDP functions as expected and direct drive is always going to be more responsive.

But the quality of the TM wheel and its usability was next level!

The TLCMs can’t be beaten at the price point for a loadcell and spring.

I don’t think I have much more to add, feedback is “fine” for me weak and constantly changing but that’s the game not me.

My TGT never missed a beat, just loose in some sessions with no mods.

Thanks for your reply, im looking at the DD extreme to purchase but probably with a pc too, my pedals inputs I monitors on ever corner and exit i berry really over brake or accelerate, I feel that if I had good feeling of grip with how good I am on my pedals inputs I would improve more, the reviews I'm seeing are a bit of mixed bag, some saying if your going to buy a DD extreme just for Gt7 you will be disappointed whilst others are staying ffb is definitely more responsive on the extreme and freeling of grip is more pronounced, then others.saying the extreme should make you quicker because better ffb helps you to respond better A review like yours did comment on how well the fanatec DD pro with. Oost kit stays at good temp over long periods.

A few reviews also saying it's worth the upgrade from the DD pro to the extreme on gt7

Don't know which way to go really,

The DD pro with a booster kit at 8nm whilst the extreme at 16nm s limited to only half its amount on gt7 how true that still is i don't know, not that strong ffb bothers me just that I can't see the upgrade being worth it for Gt7 alone if the dd pro is just as responsive as the extreme.

 

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I’d try both the DDP and DDP Ex on full torque, I don’t think a lot of people realise just how much a constant 8NM force is let alone a 16nm peak force is. It’s great for a couple of laps and to be fair GT7 errs on the side of caution and kills most of the FFB in crashes but even trying to catch a slide with a correction (not even opposite lock) can be quite jarring to the shoulders if you aren’t used to it.

It’s not really the amount of steering resistance (torque) that is the thing a lot of people want, it’s a more connected/realistic weight with sensitive road/contact feedback, you don’t need lots of high torque for that, even non power assisted steering cars naturally feel lighter the faster you go but ad very slow speeds the steering is heavy, speed up a bit and the same rotations require a lot less effort.

As I said previously it’s how you manage braking and throttle that are the deciding factors when looking for performance not how hard or light the wheel feels for turning 10-20-50 degrees for a short time.

I personally aim for a natural consistent weight in my wheel rather than worry about the peak numbers, if you are doing it right you shouldn’t need to hit those peak forces.