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I know that the SC 300 and 400 come with autos. I've actually only seen one with a manual, and it was in a magazine article.
I know the SC300 could come with a stick, but I am quite sure the SC400 could not.
@ Disturbed: Not only did they never sell a turbocharged 240SX in this country, but the car they sold here came with a truck engine. The car in GT4 is just a 240SX body with a SR20DET. Hell, it could be a 180SX with 240SX badges on it for all I know. But it is not a normal 240SX. The 240SX came only with KA24DE for an engine. Out of the Nissan Frontier. The 180SX came with the CA18DET or the SR20DET. The "T" on the engine is for "turbocharged." Note the lack of one on the "T" on the 240SX's engine code. But this was not a highly tuned truck engine, as is the one in your all exhalted Camaro/Firebird (which is what the small block initially was 40 years before), but an underpowered, small, and heavy truck engine. It had no power. My dad's Neon ACR can outrun a 240SX. That does not mean it wasn't geared differently to take advantage of the power. The CA18DET and SR20DET engined Japanese cars had alot more power. The S15 version of the SR20DET had 100 BHP more than the KA24DE. And you honestly think they would gear it that same?
For gods sake, look at this website.
Anyways, I still suggest a Jaguar XJS. You can even get one with the silky smooth I-6, I believe.
 
gimmie what speeds each gear go to then.
not only did I not exalt the Firebirds/camaros they don't have truck engines
thanks for trying, but the engine in the start of the new bodystyle, 1993, was an engine previously designed for the Corvette, the LT-1, and it is fuel-injected, and while it has a great powerband, is clearly not a truck engine.
You'll find your truck engine in 1990 Corvettes, and other from around that time.
you, see, its not a carburated small-block that was in the 80's and very beginning 90's cars, they got a Vette engine. Ever since then, they always had outdated Corvette engines, and that's American (unless they're U.S.ian) car trivia, for today
 
Disturbed07
240SX's do NOT have 240HP - 240SX's come to America. They have 200HP
Silvia's:::Can get a 240HP motor, 10 years ago, but even they won't run 13's in stock trim, and no, the gears are not designed for any other car, they are designed for them.

No one here is claiming that a 240SX makes 200+ hp stock. The KA24DE-T wasn't sold stateside, and even though a 200+ hp KA24DET does exist as stock, it never went in a Silvia. And yes, a 240SX won't run below 14 in stock trim.

The attraction of the 240SX is handling. Which is considered by many to be some of the best ever. Drifters like the Silvia because it's nimble, stable and rear-wheel drive. Let me translate that: It handles well, it's predictable (no hopping, jerking, sudden breakaways) and it's rear wheel drive. Oh, and it's cheap. While technically, it would be easier to get a horrible handling car to INITIATE a drift, you wouldn't be able to hold one for very long.

So yes, the 240 does grip.


If you're wondering, I didnt read this part.

You're being stubborn. Let me reiterate what Ev0 said. Drifiting means the car's chassis is nice and stiff. I personally think it's useless, too, but if a car can be drifted professionally, that means the chassis and suspension are well-sorted.

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THE GTi-R IS A smidge OVER 2500 lbs. The Lancer was around and below 250 hp until generation III. But I think the I and II give 1/4 mile times at around 14... though don't quote me on that. And I STILL wish I hadn't poked my nose into this "side" discussion.


Disturbed07
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Right here is where I stopped, did you just insinuate that I have a small thingy? ( i dont think we're allowed to say its name) are you that far empty that you're using the old, mine's bigger than your's?
This is definetly the saddest post I have ever seen, on any forum.
Have a nice Day, and good luck with that thing you like talking about
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If nobody else will say it, I will. You're an a$$hole. Gil is one of the nicest guys on the board, and one of the biggest car freaks, and for you to push him enough to leave this thread just says a$$hole. You're the idiot who comes in here and starts bashing other choices just because they're Japanese. Gil isn't an import freak, he just came in here to talk nuts and bolts. Annnnnnnd.... someone please lock this thread now.
 
Disturbed07
P.S. 3000 in Canadian money, isnt 5000 in American, for the genious who said that, 3000 in Canadian, is aboot 2000-2500 in American

3,000$CDN is almost half of 5000$US.

I really didn't think that I would have had to hold anyone's hand to explain that.
 
Disturbed07
gimmie what speeds each gear go to then.
U.S. Spec S13/S14 Nissan 240SX
1st 3.321
2nd 1.902
3rd 1.308
4th 1.000
5th 0.838
Final 4.083
Japan Spec S13 Nissan 180SX
1st 3.321
2nd 1.902
3rd 1.308
4th 1.000
5th 0.838
Final 3.692

Disturbed07
thanks for trying, but the engine in the start of the new bodystyle, 1993, was an engine previously designed for the Corvette, the LT-1, and it is fuel-injected, and while it has a great powerband, is clearly not a truck engine.
You'll find your truck engine in 1990 Corvettes, and other from around that time.
you, see, its not a carburated small-block that was in the 80's and very beginning 90's cars, they got a Vette engine. Ever since then, they always had outdated Corvette engines, and that's American (unless they're U.S.ian) car trivia, for today
Don't pull that "different engine" crap with me. The ONLY difference in the iron-block small block in it's 45 year life from 1955 to 2000 was the adding of fuel injection to the entire line in the mid to late 80's (depending on application); engine sizes, which ranged from 265 Cu. In. to 400 Cu. In.; and chopping off two cylinders from the 305 to make the piece of garbage 265 V6 they put in Blazers, S-10s and the like. All the LT1 was was the same damn engine with aluminum heads.
 
Toronado, if you wanna call the LT1 the same as every other GM small block for 55-00 that's your issue. the fact that it has different cams, heads, valvetrain, compression ratio, and so many things, along with fuel-injection, in my stupid opinion, make it very, very different.

Gears: we'll just need the axle ratio's, along with tires sizes, to figure wether these different gears actually translate into different speeds, or, (gasp) the far more powerful, turbo model has bigger, stronger axle's, and/or bigger tires.

My apologies to Gil, I never once saw him say the V-6's, otherwise the misunderstanding never would have happened... I simply don't think of the V-6 engines in these "muscle cars" as I find them a disgrace to everything muscle cars ever were.
The fact that he started bringing other things in, and taking it so personally, rather than accepting it as somebody he'll never meet, on the internet, talking in giant letters because at that time, being new to the site, he had no other way of responding with text, is on him though.
 
niky
The KA24DE-T wasn't sold stateside, and even though a 200+ hp KA24DET does exist as stock, it never went in a Silvia.

Really? Have you got proof of this stock/factory KA24DET?
 
Nissan Bluebird (Altima) SSS AWD. Which also came with the SR20DET. I'm looking it up now. But I saw this thing a zillion years ago.... never sold outside Japan, though there are quite a few in Australia and Southeast asia.

EDIT: Okay, can't find it... only an oblique reference to the car in one NPM article. Will withdraw this until I can find the online review for the 2.4 Turbo SSS I saw maybe six or seven years ago.
 
My apologies to Gil, I never once saw him say the V-6's, otherwise the misunderstanding never would have happened... I simply don't think of the V-6 engines in these "muscle cars" as I find them a disgrace to everything muscle cars ever were.
The fact that he started bringing other things in, and taking it so personally, rather than accepting it as somebody he'll never meet, on the internet, talking in giant letters because at that time, being new to the site, he had no other way of responding with text, is on him though.

Dude, both Gil and Toronado have been here longer than you.

And you're the only one using giant letters. Please.

And the turbo model has thicker axles, but runs the same size wheels.
 
niky
Nissan Bluebird (Altima) SSS AWD. Which also came with the SR20DET. I'm looking it up now. But I saw this thing a zillion years ago.... never sold outside Japan, though there are quite a few in Australia and Southeast asia.


Yeah we have a few SSS turbo 4WD Bluebirds getting around. (SR20 model)
 
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