Datamined car list

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You wouldn't need to - just download a file from TurboSquid and pretend.

PD has never, in the entire history of scanning people's own cars, sent out 3D modelling files to the owners. Completed models in a still image, sure, but actual 3D models? Given how incredibly guarded they are about all of their processes? Never happened.
It still makes no sense that PD would have sent him these files. Why? As proof they did it? They're not some random dude on Fiverr, there is no reason for them to send these files. Ask yourself why we've never seen anyone else posting them of their car scans. Two reasons, either they never got them, or if they did, they were contracted not to just put them on the internet to help sell your car.

On a re-inspection, the Avantime's plate on the listing and the Polyworks scan analysis (not a 3D model!) do match up (both reads K6 BRP), so...
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The Polyworks screenshot (not the scan file, not the model) is what the owner is given, probably as a private proof that was not likely intended to be publicized, at the very least.
 
Have a look at the number plate on the 3D scans - K6 BRP matches that of the car for sale.
On a re-inspection, the Avantime's plate on the listing and the Polyworks scan analysis (not a 3D model!) do match up (both reads K6 BRP),
Not exactly a chore to duplicate. Also the plate is embossed - which is why we can read it. UK registration plates are not embossed, and although you can get them (and they're illegal) you'd think he'd have put one on the front too...
The Polyworks screenshot (not the scan file, not the model) is what the owner is given, probably as a private proof that was not likely intended to be publicized, at the very least.
Again, PD has never sent anything like this to anyone. It simply wouldn't happen - its models and modelling processes are just as much a trade secret as everything else.

It used to, waaaaaaaaay back in the day, send a certificate with a completed in-game model of the car printed on it. I haven't seen one of those in 15 years.

Dude has straight up grabbed a model from somewhere or someone and pretended his car's going to be famous. Pretty fruitlessly too, given Avantime values.


Don't hold out any hope for the Avantime based on this piece of... "evidence". Or rather, I wouldn't. And I love the Avantime.
 
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If one of those was a Ram I would move my metacritic score from 0/10 to 2/10 once we get it in game. For now getting the Demon is worth 1/10.
 
Actually, I can personally confirm the scanning process PD use. Kaz’s team visited me over a year ago now. I remember it well.

They scanned a pitiful handful of coins I found down the back of the sofa, and thanked me for helping them develop their roulette prize graphics.
Picture of the coins next to a can of beans or custard with a sign with your username, pls.
 
Does that variant/body of the Escudo Pikes Peak actually still exist? I've not seen a single instance of it appearing in a museum or anything since the early 2000s. If you try and research it it's like it's completely vanished.

Would love to be proven wrong and find out where it ended up.
Someone said a while back that the car doesn't exist any more, and they seem to be right, but I think there should be enough reference material for PD to create it fairly accurately. They have whatever data they still have from GT6, which looked solid enough in terms of the shape/mesh. Just needed re-building with more polygons and generally improving. Then there is a fair bit of reference imagery of the real thing to get the finer details right, including interior shots. They wouldn't have to get it totally accurate, if the real thing doesn't exist it only needs to look accurate to the best reference images. Plus who knows what Suzuki themselves could provide.

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Files found from datamining do not necessarily mean they'll all be added to the game.

A good proof of that is the datamine @TheAdmiester did of Forza Horizon 4 early-ish in that game's life, which I've put below. Highlighted in bold are the vehicles that have appeared in either FH4 or FH5 since then.

#11 Alfa Giulietta BTCC 2018
Alfa Brera Ti 2009
Aston DB7 Zagato 2003
Aston Vanquish 2001
Aston Virage 2012
Aston Vulcan AMR Pro 2019
#44 Audi R8 LMS 2018
Audi TT 2004
Austin Seven 1924
Bentley Turbo R 1992

Chevrolet Cobalt SS 2010
Chevrolet Corvair 1969
Citroen C4 VTS 2009
Citroen DS23 1975
DeTomaso Pantera 1971
Dodge Magnum SRT8 2008
Dodge Stealth Turbo 1996
Dodge "Supercharger" 1968
#25 Ferrari 488 Challenge 2017
#117 Ferrari 599 Formula Drift 2018
Ferrari Portofino 2018

Fiat Coupe 2000
#1 Ford Escort MK1 1967
#5 Ford Escort MK2 1977
#14 Ford Mustang SCCA 1998
#15 Ford Mustang 1991
#25 Ford Ultra4 Bronco 2017
#98 Ford Mustang TA 2018
Ford Focus SVT 2003
Ford Formula 4 2014
Ford GT70 1970
Ford Ka 2011
Ford Lola T90 1966
Ford Mustang GT390 1968
Ford Mustang SVO 1986
Ford Racing Puma 1999
Ford Supervan 3 1994

Ford Thunderbird 1957
GMC Jimmy 1970
Hennessey Velociraptor 6x6 2018

Honda Civic Si 1999
Jaguar I-Pace 2018
Kurtis Kraft KK500C 1954
Lamborghini Espada 400GT 1973
Lamborghini Huracan Performante 2018
Lego Bugatti Chiron 2019

Lincoln Continental 1962
Lincoln MKVII 1988
Lincoln MKVIII 1998
#22 Lotus 35 Martin 1966
#99 Lotus Evora GT4 2018
Lotus Esprit Turbo 1980
Land Rover Defender "Paypal" 1997
Land Rover Range Rover SVR 2018
Land Rover Range Rover Velar 2018
Maserati Gran Turismo MC 2010
Maserati Quattroporte 2012
Matra-Simca MS650 1970
Mazda 323GTR 1992
Mazda ProMazda 2013
Mazda USF2000 2013
McLaren M6GT 1969
McLaren Speedtail 2019
Mercedes AMG Hammer 1987

Mercedes E55 AMG 2006
Mercedes E63 AMG 2012
Mercedes E63S AMG 2018
Mercedes SLR Stirling Moss 2010
Mitsubishi FTO 1998
Mercury Cyclone Spoiler 1970
Napier Railton 1933
#64 Nissan 370Z Formula Drift 2018
Nissan Pulsar GTI-R 1990
Nissan Dakar 2004

Panoz Esperante 2005
Peugeot 205 Rallye 1991
Peugeot 206RC 2004
Peugeot 207RC 2007
Peugeot 207 Super 2000 2007
#00 Porsche Macan "RR" 2018

#11 Porsche 956 1983
#65 Porsche 911 Desert 1985
#73 Porsche 911 GT3R 2018
Porsche 356 Cemory 1964
Porsche Singer 911 1990
Porsche 911 Sport Classic 2010

Porsche 911 997 GT3 2007
Porsche Boxster S 2010
Porsche GT4 Clubsport 2019
Porsche Gunter Works 400R 2018
RAESR Tachyon 2019
Rneault Alpine A110 2017
Renault Clio 197 2007
Renault Clio RS 2016
Renault Megane R26R 2008
Renault Megane RS 2018
Rover SD1 1984

RUF CTR2 1995
Saab 9-3 Turbo X 2008
Savage Rivale GTS 2013
Shelby 1000 2012
SSC Ultimate Aero 2010
#00 Subaru Levorg GT 2018
Subaru Crosstrek Desert Racer 2017
Triumph GT6 1973
Triumph TR7 1979
Venturi Atlantique 1997
Volvo C30 2009
Volvo C30 Polestar 2013
#22 Volkswagen Golf WTCR 2018
Zenvo TSRS 2019

That's barely half of it, over a period of nearly 4 years, from a developer that likes to throw cars at our faces. Don't get your hopes up, folks.
 
I mean, if these files were indeed found in the game files then they have a higher chance of being added in a DLC than something that isn't. No guarantee obviously, but it's worth noting. But I don't know, I guess it's more fun to argue black and white over a Renault Avantime. The Fiat Coupe was also rumoured to have been scanned awhile ago, wasn't it?
 
Already knew about Watkins Glen (and a bunch of others) from GT Sport's datamine, but care to show what other new track data you've seen?
I think the datamined tracks are pretty well known. Road Atlanta, Watkins Glen, Red Rock Valley, Grand Valley.

I did hear about an Australian track. But that’s more speculative. The whole track issue is up in the air as it seems PD did cut tracks planned for GT Sport. Probably saving them for GT7.
 
Does that variant/body of the Escudo Pikes Peak actually still exist? I've not seen a single instance of it appearing in a museum or anything since the early 2000s. If you try and research it it's like it's completely vanished.

Would love to be proven wrong and find out where it ended up.
The man who would probably know best is Tajima himself. He still has his 1995 car & the cowl from the legend itself. It gets a quick little highlight in this article from 2014 touring Tajima's shop.
 
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I think this month will be very telling for the future of GT7.

PD now has a well-known track record for strange design decisions, but less so for not giving us a fair amount of assets to use, regardless of if the functionality/economy/correctly working features allows it to be “fun” or a productive addition.

In the first year of GTS PD was throwing us close to 10 cars almost every month as well as a number of tracks. It’s really odd to me that they’ve somehow been unable to keep this up remotely closely in 7. I can’t believe additional aero parts and performance mods would increase development time by double or more. I don’t know why we’ve only gotten 3 cars and half a duplicate track on average for each content drop so far, but surely PD were planning on supporting GT7 with content throughout its life just as Sport was, it’s just how modern games have to be operated now.

We got the Suzuki VGT last month with the intent to expand its variants and participation from the brand in the future. The leak includes some Pikes Peak and notorious rally cars, including the Escudo. Pikes Peak Hill Climb happens late this month. PD/Sony have sat on the PPHC exclusive license for years. I’m obviously hinting that there’s indication of a major Pikes Peak themed content drop, but this all hinges on the validity of the leak.

I can’t come up with a reason why content/post launch support could be so thin compared to past capacities. But, a personal anecdote I’m aware of is that the Porsche 918 struggles with wheel-hub dynos, with even Porsche technicians being present people have been unable to prevent the car’s computers from freaking out and putting the car into limp mode due to odd load-sensing. My understanding is that outside rare collector/race cars, audio is captured at separate times by separate teams and units of hardware. That 918 has been a rumored car for a while,
and maybe there’s been a holdup with audio capture, and further, maybe there’s been a string of issues like this, slowing audio or visual capture, and it’s happened to coalesce recently. I really have no idea, but it’s so exceptionally strange to me that they’re not even able to dump out car content.

TL;DR: bad design isn’t unusual, but being unable to put out a solid amount of raw asset content is unusual for PD.

Surely content should ramp up, but I don’t know why it hasn’t already. The cars listed in the “leak” are believable, but validation of the the source seems a bit thin, and anyone with brain and attentiveness could make that up if they have a big enough desire for internet clout.

I think this month’s content (or lack thereof) will be extremely telling of the trajectory GT7’s support. And I really, really, hope it’s more substantial, Pike’s Peak or not.
 
911 Turbo S '93
Is this the AWD version or the RR version.
I was saddened that GT7s porsches are all RR with some being MR.

No AWD versions at all.
Its a 964, so no AWD. Probably one of the rarest 964 models too, the Turbo S 3.6 judging by the year.
 
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I think this month will be very telling for the future of GT7.

PD now has a well-known track record for strange design decisions, but less so for not giving us a fair amount of assets to use, regardless of if the functionality/economy/correctly working features allows it to be “fun” or a productive addition.

In the first year of GTS PD was throwing us close to 10 cars almost every month as well as a number of tracks. It’s really odd to me that they’ve somehow been unable to keep this up remotely closely in 7. I can’t believe additional aero parts and performance mods would increase development time by double or more. I don’t know why we’ve only gotten 3 cars and half a duplicate track on average for each content drop so far, but surely PD were planning on supporting GT7 with content throughout its life just as Sport was, it’s just how modern games have to be operated now.

We got the Suzuki VGT last month with the intent to expand its variants and participation from the brand in the future. The leak includes some Pikes Peak and notorious rally cars, including the Escudo. Pikes Peak Hill Climb happens late this month. PD/Sony have sat on the PPHC exclusive license for years. I’m obviously hinting that there’s indication of a major Pikes Peak themed content drop, but this all hinges on the validity of the leak.

I can’t come up with a reason why content/post launch support could be so thin compared to past capacities. But, a personal anecdote I’m aware of is that the Porsche 918 struggles with wheel-hub dynos, with even Porsche technicians being present people have been unable to prevent the car’s computers from freaking out and putting the car into limp mode due to odd load-sensing. My understanding is that outside rare collector/race cars, audio is captured at separate times by separate teams and units of hardware. That 918 has been a rumored car for a while,
and maybe there’s been a holdup with audio capture, and further, maybe there’s been a string of issues like this, slowing audio or visual capture, and it’s happened to coalesce recently. I really have no idea, but it’s so exceptionally strange to me that they’re not even able to dump out car content.

TL;DR: bad design isn’t unusual, but being unable to put out a solid amount of raw asset content is unusual for PD.

Surely content should ramp up, but I don’t know why it hasn’t already. The cars listed in the “leak” are believable, but validation of the the source seems a bit thin, and anyone with brain and attentiveness could make that up if they have a big enough desire for internet clout.

I think this month’s content (or lack thereof) will be extremely telling of the trajectory GT7’s support. And I really, really, hope it’s more substantial, Pike’s Peak or not.
My guess is GT7 had lots of bugs at launch and then they needed to respond immediately to the backlash. That may have messed up their planning.
I agree the June update needs to be more substantial.
 
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