Daytona setup´s 38 laps nascar

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fabiocle
Hello, here is PSN ID: FABIOCLE, Brazilian pilot gt5 nascar team www.gtnascarbrasil.com.br.
How many calls setup for Daytona's team decided to post this gtnascar that was developed by several people in the group with the help of camber ..
So for those who want to give many laps with a car that gives stable and to run until the end of tires, use the camber high as already announced here on gtplanet since 2010. This brings us to the setup below:

14 15
20 20
1 4
1 3
1 1
6.5 0,8
-0,10 -0,30

aero 20 41
-50
Gear box.. in km ok.. 240 2000 390km top speed


Setup Qualify:
20 40
15 - 0 ~10
20 20
3 3
2 2
1 1
0,00 0,00
-0,02 + 0,8 41´199 best lap in 7.
Good Luck
 
In regards to your qualifing tune. You have a rear ride height of 0. I can tell you for a fact that no matter how stiff you set up your car, a ride height, front or rear, of anything below 8 you will bottom out on the high banked corners of Daytona. Not meaning to sound like an elitist know-it-all, I have many, many hours of testing and running races at Daytona which brings me to this conclusion. I was also one of the first to be able to run 50+ laps on a set of racing softs before all the patches came out that altered the tire wear. I can also tell you that your enduro setup front camber is way to high. Just some constructive critism for you from a long time NASCAR racer in this game.
 
GTP_CargoRat
In regards to your qualifing tune. You have a rear ride height of 0. I can tell you for a fact that no matter how stiff you set up your car, a ride height, front or rear, of anything below 8 you will bottom out on the high banked corners of Daytona. Not meaning to sound like an elitist know-it-all, I have many, many hours of testing and running races at Daytona which brings me to this conclusion. I was also one of the first to be able to run 50+ laps on a set of racing softs before all the patches came out that altered the tire wear. I can also tell you that your enduro setup front camber is way to high. Just some constructive critism for you from a long time NASCAR racer in this game.
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Yes i would have to agree my friend.
 
Does anyone have any actual proof that bottoming out means a damn thing? People constantly mention it, but I've never personally seen it alter speeds in a corner or down a straight. I don't run these crazy ride heights, and I'm not saying it doesn't have an effect, but I'm curious if anyone has any replay video, or data analysis that shows any correlation between bottoming out and speeds lost. It surely doesn't occur in a top speed test, with 15 and -30 ride height on Route X. Just curious if anyone has evidence to back up these claims?
 
GTP_CargoRat
Hey killer, nice to see you're still around. Hope alls well up in the Great White North.
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All good bro, my PS3 broke so I have to use my son's and he is a little bigger than me.LOL. Should have it back tomorrow.I went to the Brazilian Nascar site and that is not the setup posted there, so he must have either translated it wrong or my google translate is wrong. Here is the setup.

- Aero:

20/41

-Ballast: 0 kg / 0

-Suspension:

Height 13/15

Spring 20/20

Ext 2/2

Comp 4/4

ARB 1/1

Camber 5.5/0.2

Toe -0.05/-0.30

Brakes 2/2
I think this is what he wanted to post,could be wrong but that's the translation I got.
 
Adrenaline
Does anyone have any actual proof that bottoming out means a damn thing? People constantly mention it, but I've never personally seen it alter speeds in a corner or down a straight. I don't run these crazy ride heights, and I'm not saying it doesn't have an effect, but I'm curious if anyone has any replay video, or data analysis that shows any correlation between bottoming out and speeds lost. It surely doesn't occur in a top speed test, with 15 and -30 ride height on Route X. Just curious if anyone has evidence to back up these claims?
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Can't say I have any videos,but from numerous hours of testing and driving I find it can get you very loose if you dip below yellow with lower ride height in the corners.Kinda throws the car off.
 
Adrenaline
Does anyone have any actual proof that bottoming out means a damn thing? People constantly mention it, but I've never personally seen it alter speeds in a corner or down a straight. I don't run these crazy ride heights, and I'm not saying it doesn't have an effect, but I'm curious if anyone has any replay video, or data analysis that shows any correlation between bottoming out and speeds lost. It surely doesn't occur in a top speed test, with 15 and -30 ride height on Route X. Just curious if anyone has evidence to back up these claims?
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I only have my test results. No way of making a video. I done several laps with the car not bottoming out and then several laps with a low ride height and the car clearly bottoming out. The laps were very consistant laps as far as the driving line goes. 15 laps low line, 15 laps middle, and 15 laps high line for each ride height setting. The higher you go up on the track, the more you will bottom out naturally. I don't have my notes handy at the moment, but I can tell you my lap times were indeed faster without the car bottoming out.
Also, with a low ride height, your car will push in the turns due to the bottoming out. Now, I know without proof, I realize that I can't expect people to believe my claims and thats fine. However, my findings are proof enough for me so I guess thats all that matters. I'll see if I can dig up my notes so I can give exact figures, but then again, without a video, I'm probably just wasting my time.
 
GTP_CargoRat
I only have my test results. No way of making a video. I done several laps with the car not bottoming out and then several laps with a low ride height and the car clearly bottoming out. The laps were very consistant laps as far as the driving line goes. 15 laps low line, 15 laps middle, and 15 laps high line for each ride height setting. The higher you go up on the track, the more you will bottom out naturally. I don't have my notes handy at the moment, but I can tell you my lap times were indeed faster without the car bottoming out.
Also, with a low ride height, your car will push in the turns due to the bottoming out. Now, I know without proof, I realize that I can't expect people to believe my claims and thats fine. However, my findings are proof enough for me so I guess thats all that matters. I'll see if I can dig up my notes so I can give exact figures, but then again, without a video, I'm probably just wasting my time.
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I'm not saying you're wrong, as I too have hours of testing in my NASCAR setup, and while I also found that lower ride heights resulted in slower lap times, but that never appeared to be because of bottoming out. I was just wondering if anyone has used the 'data analysis' thing in the replays, to correlate an actual cause and effect of bottoming out. Not just a simple lower ride height = slower lap times. Because to me, that can't be automatically associated with bottoming out, (while it can't be automatically ruled out either, but the burden of proof lies on those making the claims) unless a speed, or g force decrease is directly related to a specific point on the track where the 'bottoming out' appears to occur.
 
scharnow
So, Show me your settings cargorat :)
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My ride height settings are 15/10. Thats all I care to give out as far as my settings go. I commend the OP for sharing his settings, but thats one thing I don't give out is my NASCAR enduro settings or even my regular settings. And before you say it, no, I do not think my setups are the best that they have to be top secret nor do I think I'm a great tuner. I put alot of time and effort into my NASCAR setups and I just don't feel like giving it out. Thats the only thing I don't share as I have posted tons of other setups on these forums as well as given tuning advice as I know it. NASCAR setups are a sacred type of thing with me. If that makes me some kind of horrible person, then so be it I guess.
 
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GTP_CargoRat
My ride height settings are 15/10. Thats all I care to give out as far as my settings go. I commend the OP for sharing his settings, but thats one thing I don't give out is my NASCAR enduro settings or even my regular settings. And before you say it, no, I do not think my setups are the best that they have to be top secret nor do I think I'm a great tuner. I put alot of time and effort into my NASCAR setups and I just don't feel like giving it out. Thats the only thing I don't share as I have posted tons of other setups on these forums as well as given tuning advice as I know it. NASCAR setups are a sacred type of thing with me. If that makes me some kind of horrible person, then so be it I guess.
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I agree. The thing with Daytona setups, is that setup is 90% of the equation, and only 10% driver skill. Whereas road course setups are the exact opposite. I give out road setups, because if a driver beats me, I can accept that someone is a better driver, there's millions of those. But in NASCAR, my setup isn't just a set of numbers, it's the culmination of all the hours and laps I invested into making that setup the absolute fastest I possibly could. And I don't feel that someone else should blindly be able to gain that advantage from me within 2 minutes.
 
Adrenaline
I agree. The thing with Daytona setups, is that setup is 90% of the equation, and only 10% driver skill. Whereas road course setups are the exact opposite. I give out road setups, because if a driver beats me, I can accept that someone is a better driver, there's millions of those. But in NASCAR, my setup isn't just a set of numbers, it's the culmination of all the hours and laps I invested into making that setup the absolute fastest I possibly could. And I don't feel that someone else should blindly be able to gain that advantage from me within 2 minutes.
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Thats exactly the way I feel about it. Glad to see I'm not the only one that feels this way. So I guess now, according to popular opinion, we are both a-holes for not sharing, lol. Glad to see I have a partner in crime now, lol.
 
Adrenaline
I agree. The thing with Daytona setups, is that setup is 90% of the equation, and only 10% driver skill.
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I used to think the same thing until a few of us sent our cars to a driver who beat all our best times in our own cars within a few laps. Didn't matter if I was with or without tire wear she was faster. She test drives for a couple people and her own setup has put down laps in the mid 41.0's.
 
soupcan
I used to think the same thing until a few of us sent our cars to a driver who beat all our best times in our own cars within a few laps. Didn't matter if I was with or without tire wear she was faster. She test drives for a couple people and her own setup has put down laps in the mid 41.0's.
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Then she must have you and your friends beat in the 10% part of the equation. Maybe she was altering her line just a bit or was smoother on the steering inputs.
 
GTP_CargoRat
Then she must have you and your friends beat in the 10% part of the equation. Maybe she was altering her line just a bit or was smoother on the steering inputs.
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Some by more than 10%, she bruised more than one ego. It was fun watching as one guy had her park the car on the backstretch and he brought an identically setup car out to compare to prove to himself that the ride height and camber was the same on both. Fun night.
 
soupcan
Some by more than 10%, she bruised more than one ego. It was fun watching as one guy had her park the car on the backstretch and he brought an identically setup car out to compare to prove to himself that the ride height and camber was the same on both. Fun night.
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If its the same girl that I'm thinking about, she is fast but beatable. I've ran against her before and beat her on more than one occaision. Good driver tho. There is actually two girls now that I think about it that are pretty good, might be one of them.
 
GTP_CargoRat
If its the same girl that I'm thinking about, she is fast but beatable. I've ran against her before and beat her on more than one occaision. Good driver tho. There is actually two girls now that I think about it that are pretty good, might be one of them.
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She had told us she has had to deal with a few too many attention starved guys lately and that has taken some of the fun out of gt5.
She will occasionally pop into a room and run a race or two but, mostly she hangs in her lounge and races with friends.
 
Adrenaline
According to popular opinion I've always been an a-hole. :sly:
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Well my wife calls me one everyday so welcome to my world.:)
I will post my setup for the 10th time and people can go from there.
This is for 25 laps cause i'm also an ahole.



Nascar any car there is no difference. 892 HP

Aero F 20 R 40
No ballast

Tranny
These steps
1 reset to default
2 top speed 249 MPH
3 final gear 3.528

LSD
60/60/55

Suspension

RH F 15 R 15
SR F 18.5 R 20.0
EXT F 8 R 5
COM F 8 R 5
ARB F 4 R 4
CAM F 0.0 R 0.0
TOE F -0.25 R -0.25
BB F 1 R 2

There is a base to work from will do 25 laps for sure unless you can't drive,if you want 38 laps make some adjustments to this tune.
The car is draft beast and is not for solo lap times.Drive it wherever you want it hold very well.Ask they call me Herbie about our last little race on Tuesday night.
His 41. whatever solo lap times don't equate to much more than a last place finish with people running this setup.
There you go have fun.
 
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Adrenaline
According to popular opinion I've always been an a-hole. :sly:
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Yea, thats what I've heard, lol, but you've always been cool with me so I really don't see what other people's problem is. Ah well, thats life.
 
Gettin wrecked had nothing to do with it. And I didnt know we where keeping track. Honestly say what you want. Sure you had a few buddies in that room, where I was running solo. Point Blank.
 
Master_gamer438
Gettin wrecked had nothing to do with it. And I didnt know we where keeping track. Honestly say what you want. Sure you had a few buddies in that room, where I was running solo. Point Blank.
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Sometimes I wonder if you're ever reading the same forum as us. What in the world are you talking about, AGAIN.
 
Just wanted to contribute my 2c to the Daytona part:
Some of the bumps up high on the corners are pretty extreme. I think that when you hit these bumps if you run out of suspension travel then you hit the 'bump stops' or bottom out and when this happens the car/tyres will slide to some degree. This 'scrubs off' some of the cars top speed.
This could be remedied with some stiff bump/compression on the dampers and some very stiff spring rates, but then the car may 'bounce' (using this term loosely) off the bumps on the track or at the least the weight of the car may be pushed high over the bumps and then you won't have as much weight pressing the tyre down onto the road.
Even if you were to use aero downforce to hold the car down the car is likely going to get unsettled and still skip about. So it could become unstable or you'll scrub off some speed in the corner.
 
Adrenaline
Sometimes I wonder if you're ever reading the same forum as us. What in the world are you talking about, AGAIN.
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I think he is referring to killerjimbag's very last comments in his post above about a race they were both recently involved in. I was wondering the same thing and had to go back and re-read killer's post. Thats my conclusion anyway.

Now Adrenaline, I think you owe Mastergamer an appology. Maybe show everyone that you can indeed play well with others, lol. Just messin' with you my friend, no need for one of your witty comebacks, lol.
 
Friend, test, then we are talking. To qualify get to use -3 in the rear. As for the setup of the test long run toe in, use up to 8 ...Dedicate more hours in the game. Add me on psn fabiocle. No ofence
 
Did U try?? I can d 38 laps if this tune..
About qualify tune, if u can run if this one, U need more hours in gt5..
No ofence
 
If you have so much time gt5 will spend a bit more and test the two setup'se see that the race will do 35 laps and qualify for the best. 41'199 done in 7 turns, stopping at 4 for tire change. I also have a good game time then share with others the things I learn. No offense, but try walking with setup'se then tell me.
 

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