Definition of Rice...A rant... :(

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I am so sick these days of the term "ricer." The people who say this call every car a "ricer" without a better glance. Why am I saying this? Because it happened to me today.

While at Ceasar's Palace, I saw a car that looked like a ricer. Well, upon further inspection, I was proven wrong. This car had an unpainted body kit, stock wheels on the back, and a strange spoiler. There was no front bumper. I thought total ricer, until I decided to talk to the 23 year old owner. After he opened the hood of his Toyota Celica (old model), I was proven wrong. The engine was completly modified. Everything was modified to a somewhat extent. Brakes, suspension, and everything was tuned. I asked why the outside looks ricey, and he replied to me a very important saying.

"Because a car looks like rice, doesn't mean it is." He told me he just started on modding the exterior the car. I asked how much horsepower he had, and an astonishing sheet of paper, which looked like one from a dyno, showed 412 horses.
This is much more than a typical Celica of his model.

So why am I posting this? Because people need to understand the REAL term of Ricer.

Ricer is - A car made to look fast with very few performance upgrades. But it seems the wrong definition is what everyone goes by. A car with crazy modifications.

Well guess what. A car can have as much crazy ass exterior modifications as it wants. It can look like this.
http://blizoop.com/x/mopix/blizoop_ricer.jpg
Yeah, 1st look, this looks like a ricer. But if this Civic is running 600 horses, I don't care what you say, its NOT a ricer. Its a fast car with QUESTIONABLE MODIFICATIONS.

That's why I applaud that thread for that title.
I know, its rare to see a ricer-looking car with a great amount of performance modifications, but remember, it is possible to see one.

So please, remember that that car with a strange exterior modded car can look like ricer, but as long as it has a great amount of performance modifications, it'll be a car with Questionable Modifications.

Thank you.
 
Meh I get it all the time, people think a lowered truck is ricey since there it no performance aspect of it. Many vehicles are meant for crusing or show, like mine, and not everyone wants a fast car, like me.

I just hate the old crappy 80-90's car that have a wing and muffler. Unpainted body kits are fine, hell mini trucker love primer and bondo. Underconstruction is fine and people for some reason think that you shouldn't drive your car unless its done. Well I've driven arounf with things half done on my truck and it didn't bother me.
 
i was under teh imressino that rice was reserved to denote cars with high performance appendages but no concessions to actual performance.

a 300hp celica that looks like arse cant be rice in my eyes.
 
Quick_Nick
A car that is modified distastefully is rice, regardless of how much horsepower it has.
That's still the wrong definition.

The original definition of Rice was a car with too many exterior mods with little to no performance mods.

If the car is modified distastefully, but with lots of horsepower, its a car with Questionable Modifications.
 
Lets see... where do I start?

1. When it sounds like a Scion Commercial and the guy raves about all the useless parts and money he wasted and proves it further by the way he drives it.

2. When people soup up a car to "race" yet they have amps, subs, more T.V. screens than in a damn house and fire extingisher that will be useless when they cut their car in half.

3. More money that brains.

Should I go on? :dopey:
 
VIPFREAK
Lets see... where do I start?

1. When it sounds like a Scion Commercial and the guy rants about all the parts and money he wasted and proves it further by the way he drives it.

2. When people soup up a car to "race" yet they have amps, subs, fire extingisher that will be useless when they cut their car in half.

3. More money that brains.

Should I go on? :dopey:
I'm not sure I fully understand what you're trying to say.
 
McLaren F1GTR
The original definition of Rice was a car with too many exterior mods with little to no performance mods.

If the car is modified distastefully, but with lots of horsepower, its a car with Questionable Modifications.


What do you mean the "original" definition? That's just your definition of what a ricer is. Even if the car has been upgraded for performance in the engine, drivetrain, suspension, brakes, and so on, but has gaudy exterior body kit modifications that serve no purpose I say it's still rice. If you're going to have huge horsepower and go fast then functional bodykits with ground effects and/or spoilers are important.

But even then, if you're going to do all these modifications to a street car I don't see the point anyways, in fact I'd rather see cars with tasteful visual modifications, and I couldn't care less how fast you can go and kill yourself/someone else on the street.
 
"Ricer" is a shortened version of "Rice Burner" which originally meant any Asian produced car, regardless of looks or performance. My father had a battered and half broken 70's Corolla which everyone referred to as a rice burner.

About 10 - 15 years ago when "Ricer" started being used it meant any Asian car with exterior mods or any car with exterior mods done in the Asian style.

In the last 3 or so years the term has lost any defining meaning and is applied to just about any modified car. There have even been auto magazines reporting about cars such as the Callaway being riced up.
 
Yeah, 1st look, this looks like a ricer. But if this Civic is running 600 horses, I don't care what you say, its NOT a ricer. Its a fast car with QUESTIONABLE MODIFICATIONS.

Having 600-hp go through your front wheels is questionable on an entirely new level.
 
sn00pie
Having 600-hp go through your front wheels is questionable on an entirely new level.

lol

It's really hard to tell what is rice and what isn't. Usually I look to see if it has gaudy aftermarket wheels and stock drums. Even then the person could be mid way through a project and not have had the chance to put on all the parts.

Ultimatly it comes down to the fact that I wouldn't really kit a car out, so just because a car isn't rice doesn't mean I like what they've done to the exterior.
 
Quick_Nick
A car that is modified distastefully is rice, regardless of how much horsepower it has.

Game. Set. Match. This is exactly what I think of as a "ricer". I don't care if the Celica had 1000bhp--if it has unpainted body kit trim pieces, stupid hideous coffee can exhaust, stickers, and large dumb spoilers it is rice! Period...bar none. I can't stand ricers...it's like the plague around here. 👎
 
Over the years I've just learned let people do what they want. If they want to do that stuff to their car just let them. Is it hurting you? No it's not so just let it go and go out and do what you want. I don't understand why you guys think you can control what others do.
 
BlazinXtreme
Over the years I've just learned let people do what they want. If they want to do that stuff to their car just let them. Is it hurting you? No it's not so just let it go and go out and do what you want. I don't understand why you guys think you can control what others do.
I don't think that.

But I do respect them. Its their property, not mine. They paid for it, not me.
And it is a somewhat free country.
 
Personally, I don't like the term "ricers" or "rice"(not the actual food). :(

I think, you could call any Japanese car a "rice". Even an stock Acura NSX(forgive me, McLaren) or Toyota Supra.

"Ricers" usually refers to anybody who tunes import cars, especially one's with cheap, cheesy upgrades.
 
In my opinion a socalled "ricer" has a car with :

- neon lights
- vinyls
- 200 pounds of sound equippment and TV screens etc
- 150 hp while it looks like having 600 hp

Well above is the perfect ricer, and there are also several small ricer-editions... you know a perfectly tuned high performance Skyline (600 hp) or whatever is still rice for me if he has vinyls and neon lights under the car... although I could also get used to the term "questionable modification", especially since the term "ricer" has a little racist aspect I don't like....
 
One definition I've come to hold dear is:

Race Inspired Cosmetic Enhancements.

This means parts that they've seen on racing cars that they think will go well on their road car, but the part they apply only has "cosmetic" value and doesn't aid the vehicle's performance in any way.

We're talking spoilers (usually angled to give no downforce, or often to give lift, or positioned on the rear of FWD cars or, for those that DO provide downforce, merely serve to slow the car down and screw up the fuel economy), body kits (race cars have large rear bumpers - to stabilise them at speed - with Venturi tunnels on them. Riceman sees "big bumper" and sticks on a "big bumper") and, above all else, "stickers", or the now-beloved "shopping list" (a list of parts manufacturers, often conflicting, to be found on a car's door near to the front wings).
 
the term "ricer" has also been applied to Japanese Motorcycles (re, the movie Harley Davidson and the Marlboro man) as well.

but, what I'm getting as a definition of ricer (and I've seen five of them out here)is
any compact or subcompact, regardless of country of Origin, that has an Uber tacky rear wing a foot above the roofline and "euro" tailights.
the main "ricer" indicator is those damn tails. why don't they just make parabola backed transparents instead?

'course, I see more of what we call a "winter beater" around here...cars that are 3/4 rusted out compacts and subcompacts, with blown rear shocks and nothing in them but a dozen speakers and a trunk full of subwoofers, with 8 guys suffed in it, and the tires practically flat :P
 
BlazinXtreme
Over the years I've just learned let people do what they want. If they want to do that stuff to their car just let them. Is it hurting you? No it's not so just let it go and go out and do what you want. I don't understand why you guys think you can control what others do.
I don't think it's hurting me. It is their car and I don't intend to try to stop them at all. But that doesn't mean I have to like it or respect it.

ANYTHING that adds weight without a corresponding increase in performance, handling, or safety is rice in some way or another, but it's worst when those mods are supposed to LOOK like they add performance when they do not.

Street cars posing in any way as a race car - fire extinguisher in a cheap plastic clamp on the A-pillar, just waiting to fly loose and bash your head in during an accident; 6" tach with giant shift light on an automatic-trans car (often they're not even hooked up, since I can read them from MY car following behind, I can tell); fake 'show bars' that are not a roll cage and are more dangerous than having nothing in the car; the "giant red starter button" (mercifully this appears to be going out of fashion) etc. are rice.

Obsession with blow-off valves is rice... even though the turbo theoretically adds performance, it's irrelevant because apparently the important part is to make it go *pssssssh* so that everybody knows you have a turbo. Rice.

I could go on. "Questionable mods" are fine; everybody's taste is different no matter how badly my retinas get seared from the garish paint and kit. It's all about the POSING aspect to me.
 
So based on what you guys are saying my truck is rice.

-Interiot Neons
-Sound System
-Euro lights
-No performance gains (CAI for fuel economy and same with Powerprogramer)
-Factroy ground effects
-Lowered.
-Vinyl window stickers...two!!!

I still let people do what they want, you don't have to respect it but would you want someone bashing your car if you put a lot a work into it? I don't think so. I hate it when people tell me my truck is stock, which it isn't, I just don't have the time to put in air bags, or get a crazy paint job, or the desire for new rims.

I'll see a Civic with a big GT wing on the back and a dragon sticker down the side. Do I like it? Not really but that guy does and I'm sure others do to. If no one did it, it would hurt the aftermarket industry.
 
BlazinXtreme
So based on what you guys are saying my truck is rice.

-Interiot Neons
-Sound System
-Euro lights
-No performance gains (CAI for fuel economy and same with Powerprogramer)
-Factroy ground effects
-Lowered.
-Vinyl window stickers...two!!!
Not by my definition, really. It's nothing I would do to my car, but it's not my car.
 
BlazinXtreme
Over the years I've just learned let people do what they want. If they want to do that stuff to their car just let them. Is it hurting you? No it's not so just let it go and go out and do what you want. I don't understand why you guys think you can control what others do.

I think your truck is kinda cool. Blazin, the post I quoted hit exactly what McLarenF1GTR was trying to get at. I might be sounding hypocritical right now, because I have a tendency to be overcritical of other people's cars, But it's true. You can't do anything about the fact that his or her car makes your eyes bleed, but It's their choice, and theirs only what they do with their car. It can still be fun to laugh sometimes, I chuckle every time I see that red Tatra in the Questionnable modifications thread. If my friend thinks my Biscayne is a POS, good for him. I just smile and drive along. If I think my friend is into ricers and the Huge rims, good for me. If that's what he likes, then that's what he likes. I think people try too hard to make everyone like themselves. Sometimes, it's good to be different. But, in the red tatra's case, sometimes, We can't help but laugh.
 
This is my interpretation of RICE.

1. Oversized rear spoiler that serves no purpose or function and is bigger than the car itself.

2. Having stickers/vinyl that say you have this performance part, but you actually don't.

3. Incorrect bagding. Like putting a GT-R badge on a Sentra. VTEC on a Civic that isn't VTEC. Turbo when it's not.

4. Unnecessary items. 6" tach for example. Tyres flies and washer lights. 3 sets of fogs. I don't mind underbody light kits. I wouldn't put any on my car in fear of breaking them.

That is RICE to me. Put ground kits, altezza lights, 3 tone paint, slam it, 18" wheels, TV's with 2 tone leather interior. That doesn't bother me as RICE. I may not like it. Everyone has different tastes.

My $.02
 
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