Did PD go too far with the G25 power shift nerf?

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d3br34k5
I'll bet 75%+ of people driving GT5p cannot even dream of operating a transmission like in that vid.

Hopefully the transmission coding for GT5 will provide the ability to be faster using the techniques shown in that vid, but if it's easily exploitable and unrealistic (like it was before PD 'nerfed' it) I say leave it out.

Actually, leave it out completely until parts can be damaged and cars retired.

Great video though.
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Even though i drive like that almost everyday... blipping the throttle on downshift (possible in a country where no one really cars how fast you drive). I agree to the fact that even in real life with car enthusiasts, less then 20% can actually blip properly. But if you want to be fast into the bends or fast in general, its something you have to learn.
 
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I agree with most people here about just lifting throttle and shifting as fast as you can. I do it all the time and 98% of the time it's never a problem. But sometimes in the heat of battle focusing on not hitting the guy in front/next to you little mistakes happen, and the Neutral lock REALLY kills your momentum. There should be NO NEUTRAL LOCK AT ALL! If they are going to penalize you, it should be if you are at 50% or MORE throttle position applied. Even that is ridiculous. They should let you apply as much throttle as you like and have it upset the balance/traction of the car or have it jolt forward as if would in a real life situation when the drive-line is trying to catch up to the engine speed. I know for myself i am already applying some sort of throttle before the Clutch is fully Released.

My biggest Gripe is for drifting though, or even for those tail happy cars that get sideways on turns. They should ATLEAST remove any sort of Neutral lock in the drift mode/trials. I really hope PD is listening and take this fake restriction out of the game. Or atleast improve on it to where it is reasonable.

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d3br34k5
I don't know what kind of magical manual transmissions you've all used in real life or what kind of super pro drivers some of you are but in my world, every transmission feels different, every clutch feels different and every manual transmission vehicle I've ever driven has required a certain level of adaptation from my side in order to correctly navigate the gears and properly drive the vehicle. I've personally experienced a few handfuls of different vehicles and transmissions.

Using the G25 is no different. Either you adapt and succeed or fail and claim that something's broken...or actually break something. I find people are WAY too rough with shifting inputs, both in GT5p and in real life. I can't for the life of me understand why some folks have to literally throw the shifter through the gears.

The only thing broken is people's ability to adapt. We all know the G25 isn't perfect; it's a piece of plastic trying to represent a 6spd manual transmission. Keep that in mind and adapt to that fact.

I've got no problem using the G25 for manual shifting w/clutch. Save for the odd 'it's only a toy' error, it actually feels ALOT tighter and more responsive than my Jeep TJ.

Now, that said, I can't wait for a clutch/shifter setup that incorporates FF. It really is lacking and could potentially help rookie drivers understand the feeling of mangling syncros.


Even with the 'power shift nerf', a good driver will be faster using the g25+clutch. Hence all the 'G25 clutch not allowed' rules.

I believe they 'nerfed' it in lieu of transmission parts all over the track.
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Just use the Live For Speed system.
With all wheels (Driving Force, Driving Force pro, G25, ...) and controller/mouse you'll destroy the clutch by flat shifting or shifting too quickly.
The thing is, in NFS you have to let go of the gas in order to change gear correctly. Just apply this for the dualshock 3 in GT5 and nobody has an advantage anymore!

Edit: 'Need for speed' should be 'Live for speed', ofcourse.
 
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humpus
Just use the Need For Speed system.
With all wheels (Driving Force, Driving Force pro, G25, ...) and controller/mouse you'll destroy the clutch by flat shifting or shifting too quickly.
The thing is, in NFS you have to let go of the gas in order to change gear correctly. Just apply this for the dualshock 3 in GT5 and nobody has an advantage anymore!
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/\/\/\ Good idea, for me it's not a problem with the G25 wheel/pedals/shifter or the Hardware, i love it, sure it's not 100% realistic, but it gives you a better sense of realism and feel when driving. It's the PROGRAMMING of the game, and the stupid restrictions they PUT on the hardware that gets me annoyed. :grumpy::banghead:
 
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All I can say about using clutch in GT5P is 'practise makes perfect'. I struggled like hell at the begining, but after a while it is just normal for me and now I use clutch all the time (even in TT). It is just so much better 👍


Another example of heel-and-toe techique, this time it's Ayrton Senna in NSX-R round Suzuka
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8-zbfdPfRg&feature=related
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I agree with you 100% I wish i still had my G25 the pedal wire snaped off. but the Video was great it reminds me of the steering input i do when driving on suzuka.
 
NoxNoctis Umbra
Yeah when PD will implement damage I bet it will be something like Viper has mentioned.
As well they need to put Clutch Pressure as well. It only works as an ON OFF button.. I don't mind it, better then not having clutch at all, but more realistic is always better.
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What are you talking about, the clutch on the g25 is pressure sensitive, not much but it does kick in harder if you bring it up more
 

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