Difference between the GT-R's

[winner133]

What is the difference between The

GT-R '07
GT-R SpecV
GT-R Black edition

Just give me a short review of them please

 

[Streeto]

The differences are shown in-game...

 

[winner133]

The differences are shown in-game...

What I mean is how they handle and/or are there better then the other ones

 

[MidFieldMaven]

Stock time trial @ Suzuka

 

[Falango]

Drive them and find out. If you search for a bit of info about them that should give you a bit of an idea. Check out the setup for each car in game too

 

[sparkytooth]

On Paper:

Spec V is lighter than the normal GT-R
Black Edition has a facelift, and a power bump.

 

[Ridox2JZGTE]

What is the difference between The

GT-R '07
GT-R SpecV
GT-R Black edition

Just give me a short review of them please

The '07 GTR has the lowest power, Spec V is lighter then '07 and Black Edition - not much though. The most powerful is Black Edition. From '07 to '12, the stock spring rate gets higher ( stiffer ) IRL and damper has been fine tuned leading to better lap times at Nordschleife. Some changes to transmission computer logic for launch control ( RPM launch ) - when it comes to quarter mile and 0-60 times on later year model after '09 - IRL. If you want to know how '07 GTR would drive in GT6 with real life setup, try this and beat Motegi lap time record by Naoki Hattori ( Best Motoring GTR vs The World ) + Tsukuba time by Keiichi Tsuchiya. The '09 non Spec V driven by Tsuchiya managed to beat '07 time at Tsukuba by a few tenths. You can adapt the toe and camber alignment to the Spec V and Black Edition, they are similar/not much different IRL.

NISSAN GTR '07 Stock Replica
Real World Setup and Alignment
Tuned to replicate Nissan GTR '07 - Tsukuba and Motegi Lap Record
Comfort Soft​

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CAR : Nissan GTR '07
Tire : Comfort Soft

Specs
Horsepower: 473 HP / 480 PS at 6800 RPM
Torque : 442.6 ft-lb at 3500 RPM
Power Limiter at : 97.8%
Weight: 1740 kg - official curb weight
Ballast : 192 kg
Ballast Position : -35
Weight Distribution : 55 / 45 as in real life
Performance Points: 526


GT AUTO
NO OIL change
Improve Body Rigidity ( NOT INSTALLED IN THIS BUILD )
Wheels : Stock
Car Paint : Silver or Red

Tuning Parts Installed :
Fully Customizable Suspension
Weight Reduction Stage 1

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Suspension - Bilstein Damptronic with Stock Ride Height + Factory Nissan Street / Daily Driving Alignment
Front, Rear

Ride Height: 110 110
Spring Rate: 9.82 5.36
Dampers (Compression): 5 6
Dampers (Extension): 6 6
Anti-Roll Bars: 2 3
Camber Angle: 1.4 1.4 ( factory : F -1.44 to -1.51, R -1.40 to -1.73)
Toe Angle: 0.10 0.10 ( factory : F Toe Out 0.9mm or 1/8" to 1/16" to Toe In 1.5mm, R Toe Out 0.3mm to Toe In 3.7mm ) GT6 values : F -0.22 to 0.10, R -0.02 to 0.26 range.


Suspension - Bilstein Damptronic with Stock Ride Height + Factory Nissan Sport / Track Alignment
Front, Rear

Ride Height: 110 110
Spring Rate: 9.82 5.36
Dampers (Compression): 5 6
Dampers (Extension): 6 6
Anti-Roll Bars: 2 3
Camber Angle: 1.8 1.7 ( factory : F -1.44 to -1.76, R -1.40 to -1.73)
Toe Angle: -0.06 0.10 ( factory : F Toe Out 0.9mm or 1/8" to 1/16" to Toe In 1.5mm, R Toe Out 0.3mm to Toe In 3.7mm ) GT6 values : F -0.22 to 0.10, R -0.02 to 0.26 range.


Suspension - Bilstein Damptronic with Stock Ride Height + Factory Nissan Street / Daily Driving Alignment - Personal Setup
Front, Rear

Ride Height: 110 110
Spring Rate: 9.82 5.36
Dampers (Compression): 5 6
Dampers (Extension): 6 6
Anti-Roll Bars: 2 3
Camber Angle: 1.3 1.4 ( factory : F -1.44 to -1.76, R -1.40 to -1.73)
Toe Angle: -0.15 0.15 ( factory : F Toe Out 0.9mm or 1/8" to 1/16" to Toe In 1.5mm, R Toe Out 0.3mm to Toe In 3.7mm ) GT6 values : F -0.22 to 0.10, R -0.02 to 0.26 range.


Suspension - Bilstein Damptronic with Stock Ride Height + Factory Nissan Sports / Track Alignment - Personal Setup
Front, Rear

Ride Height: 110 110
Spring Rate: 9.82 5.36
Dampers (Compression): 5 6
Dampers (Extension): 6 6
Anti-Roll Bars: 2 3
Camber Angle: 1.8 1.7 ( factory : F -1.44 to -1.76, R -1.40 to -1.73)
Toe Angle: -0.22 0.00 ( factory : F Toe Out 0.9mm or 1/8" to 1/16" to Toe In 1.5mm, R Toe Out 0.3mm to Toe In 3.7mm ) GT6 values : F -0.22 to 0.10, R -0.02 to 0.26 range.



AERO:
FRONT : 20 ( Fixed )
REAR : 20 ( Fixed )


Brake Balance:
6/8 ( personal BB) or for ABS 0 wheel : 6/8, for ABS 1 - feel free to use your preferred brake balance. I recommend to run 6/8 for ABS 1.

Recommended setting for DS3 user :

Steering sensitivity at +1 or +2, all aids off, except ABS 1 ( if not comfortable with ABS 0 ) with 6/8 brake balance as starting point.

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Notes :
The Nissan GTR is one of the car that I have so many in the garage Ever since GT5, I had about 20 of these at all times and in GT6, I have about 10 or so now, all are replicas.

This one is the most basic replica, with stock tune and some corrections on power, suspension and weight distribution.

Power has been reduced to 473HP / 480PS to reflect official power as tested on Best Motoring, weight at 1740kg ( official curb weight value ) and weight distribution at 55/45 - as measured from corner weight.

I researched quite a lot to find the CBA-R35 GTR 1st gen spring rate, then I stumbled a GTR owner who had a chance to speak with one of the Nissan GTR key engineer during a special GTR promo event. He posted the spring rate, many doubted him, but after doing more research on later model year spring rate increase and the NISMO package, I decided to believe and used it for this replica build.

Stock spring rate : F 550lb/in and R 300lb/in, this translate to F 9.82kg/mm and R 5.36kg/mm ( rounded for GT6 ) Stock ride height is retained, with damper has been tweaked for optimum handling balance and ARB to reduce push on entry, soft but not harsh. The Nissan GTR spring rate gets higher/changed every model year from 2008 onwards.

Camber and toe uses early GTR factory manual alignment presets, later models have 3 preset, daily city driving, sports and track. The changes are very minor, slightly higher camber and similar toe range. For this replica, I provided 2 preset, daily/city/street and sports/track. I obtained these from GTR forum, taken from early gen GTR manual. Another 2 are my own personal setup based on the factory alignment. Try all of them and notice the difference, pick one that suits you best, or simply play around with the value range.

I mainly tested the car at Tsukuba and Motegi Road Course. These 2 tracks have been the proving grounds for the GTR on Best Motoring show.

Keiichi Tsuchiya posted 1:02.125 lap time at Tsukuba on stock GTR with Dunlop OEM tires. Aim for this time or better.
In 2009, MCR owned Nissan GTR '09 model, in stock form, driven by Keiichi Tsuchiya posted a best lap of 1:01.931 at Tsukuba My test lap was 1:01.4xxx on 2nd lap run using my personal setup sports/track alignment preset.

Naoki Hattori posted 2:07.600 lap time at Motegi Road Course on stock GTR with Dunlop OEM - SP Sport 600 DSST tires. My test lap was 2:07.4xxx on 1st lap run using my personal setup street/daily driving alignment preset.

If you want added challenge, run the car at Nordschleife and aim to beat 7:26.700, driven by the legend Toshio Suzuki ( 480PS/1740kg ) back in 2008.

ENJOY

 

[MidFieldMaven]

SpecV
493 hp / 6,500 rpm
448 ft-lb / 3,500 rpm
1,680 kg (3,704 lbs)
535 PP
7.51 lbs/HP

My best time at Suzuka - 2:12.501

Black Edition
541 hp / 6,500 rpm
467 ft-lb / 3,500 rpm
1,730 kg (3,814 lbs)
546 pp
7.05 lbs/HP

My best time at Suzuka - 2:12.739

The 107 lb weight difference doesn't seem like much, but in a car that understeers horribly like the GT-R, it actually matters.

 

[BMWcrazy]

Here is some info about the DBA-R35.

Mainly they've stiffened up the chassis and they've also changed the geometry of the suspension. (I.E. You can't mount the suspension from a DBA to a CBA chassis. The positions and the angles of the strut mounts are different.)

Though as a CBA-R35 owner, I'm okay with the fact that I paid a lot less than a 2013, 2014, or 2015 model year.

 

[oranjoos]

The differences are shown in-game...

KONATA-CHAN

 

[oranjoos]

Here is some info about the DBA-R35.

Mainly they've stiffened up the chassis and they've also changed the geometry of the suspension. (I.E. You can't mount the suspension from a DBA to a CBA chassis. The positions and the angles of the strut mounts are different.)

Though as a CBA-R35 owner, I'm okay with the fact that I paid a lot less than a 2013, 2014, or 2015 model year.

KAGAMI-CHAN