DiRT Rally 2.0 General Discussion

[Rodger Davies]

Ok thank god, I was freaking out for a second! So maybe the Season Pass is worth it...

I'm also really glad to hear that. The randomly generated career events need some improvement with regards to time and weather patterns IMO, but I really enjoy this mode and am looking forward to the new locations being in it.

 

[AfraidRacer]

Worth a buy? Considering this for my next game. I am on controller though.

 

[fernandito]

Continuing the historic career in a Datsun 240z. Challenging car behavior.

I have found the Datsun to be the easiest rwd car to drive. Xbox1 controller here

Worth a buy? Considering this for my next game. I am on controller though.

Controller is precisely the way to play thse CM games. It works top like always, much better than with a wheel.

I it worth a buy?, well.., depends. The greates con to this game indeed lies in the repetitiveness of the tracks in a couple of locations such as NZ and Australia, who really become awful to drive after many attempts. They really look like cloned one after another with DR4 my stage tool.

You also need to be in the know that they are gonna charge you for three vanilla rally locations from DR1.

As for the rest, the physics are very good.

 

[kikie]

Worth a buy? Considering this for my next game. I am on controller though.

If you like sim racing, rally and or rallycross my answer is plain and simple: YES, it is worth to buy.

 

[Rodger Davies]

Worth a buy? Considering this for my next game. I am on controller though.

It's really good on a controller and set to get better. Most of the complaints so far are a result of FFB with wheels needing improvement so obviously this won't affect you. You'll struggle in high speed sections of stages to start with and RWD cars are a huge challenge but it's really rewarding if you get it right. Be aware it is a steep learning curve though, be prepared to make a lot of mistakes early on.

For the record, the guy claiming the stages feel like they're made with the tyech that made Dirt 4 dull is mistaken on this single point IMO. All stages in the game are based on real stages, locations and roads (although a few of the individual roads are fictional to create differences to the WRC routes) and are the best rally stages you'll find in any game as far as I'm concerned.

Obviously the game has the same issue as the first one where you will learn those locations, but more are coming over the next few months as DLC to keep the game fresh. If you haven't been playing the first Dirt Rally continuously for the last three years, these will be completely brand new - if you have, they're upgraded versions of the stages from the first game.

 

[paulpg87]

Ok thank god, I was freaking out for a second! So maybe the Season Pass is worth it...

But that means rally seasons in career mode are limited to 6 slots picking random rallies out of the 9 available(12 at the end of season 2). So basically for a full rally championship you have to stick with custom mode.

What about historic stuff?

 

[Racetee]

For the record, the guy claiming the stages are made with Your Stage tech - ignore - the Australian stages are based around Nambucca and the New Zealand ones are Whaanga Coast. Obviously the game has the same issue as the first one where you will learn those locations, but more are coming over the next few months as DLC to keep the game fresh.

There are technically more comming, but probably majority of DR2 players know them better than they know DR2 tracks, so nothing really fresh.

 

[fernandito]

For the record, the guy claiming the stages are made with Your Stage tech - ignore -

I wouldn't suggest that. And if you do again, then prompt them to ignore the positive points I added as well about the handling for instance. Your post loathes me.

Obviously the game has the same issue as the first one where you will learn those locations,

Calling that bollocks.

, but more are coming over the next few months as DLC to keep the game fresh.

Right guys, you should learn there's more rally locations coming to keep the game fresh. But, you should learn as well that these are all ripped from the first game and that you'll have to pay for them, again.

 

[Deadheadbill]

Worth a buy? Considering this for my next game. I am on controller though.

I've got over 60 hours in and really like it. It needs a little polish, but it's real shiny underneath.

 

[PJTierney]

Worth a buy? Considering this for my next game. I am on controller though.

I'm beating 100% AI difficulty on controller, so that shouldn't be a concern

Settings here:

 

[cjr3559]

But that means rally seasons in career mode are limited to 6 slots picking random rallies out of the 9 available(12 at the end of season 2)

Question is, are the Season 2 locations confirmed to be Wales, Finland and Greece. The CM blog mentions Season 1 focused on Rally aspects, so Season 2 could be more RX locations. Who knows.

 

[AfraidRacer]

Thanks for all the replies guys!
A question- How is it without paid DLC? I don’t really intend on buying DLC.

 

[AfraidRacer]

Thanks for all the replies guys!
A question- How is it without paid DLC? I don’t really intend on buying DLC.

 

[Racetee]

Thanks for all the replies guys!
A question- How is it without paid DLC? I don’t really intend on buying DLC.

You have the base game as you do at this moment. Nobody knows how it i with the DLC as it hasn't been released yet.

 

[BrainsBush]

Read some remarks about too much dust behind the (virtual) cars. Have a look at this WRC in Mexico.
BTW would be a nice addition to the game that your codriver needs to open a fence. Too funny this can actually happen.

 

[Rodger Davies]

There are technically more comming, but probably majority of DR2 players know them better than they know DR2 tracks, so nothing really fresh.

I wouldn't say the majority of DR2 players will know them, at least not by heart. I played DR1 for well over a hundred hours and I can remember some sections, but I'm not touched it for the last year and they feel like new to me most likely (with a bit of deja vu in some areas, no doubt). But it sounds like the gentleman requesting info is new to the series, so to anyone in this boat they will be absolutely amazing new additions (and for me, I can't wait to play them with the new physics).

I wouldn't suggest that. And if you do again, then prompt them to ignore the positive points I added as well about the handling for instance. Your post loathes me.

My apologies, re-reading my post it sounded harsher than intended so I have edited it. You're entitled to your view that they have a similar flow or feeling as DiRT 4 of course, although personally I think they're infinitely better and capture the essence of the real life stages they're modelled after much better.

Calling that bollocks.

Not sure what you mean by this. I'm just saying that because there are (in the base game) ~150km of unique road, it will be learned - which was an issue with the first game eventually IMO (albeit not until I'd spent a LOT of time enjoying it) but the additional 70km in Season One DLC will at least add more.

 

[PJTierney]

Thanks for all the replies guys!
A question- How is it without paid DLC? I don’t really intend on buying DLC.

Rally has 6 locations. They provide a good challenge but if you play for a long time they'll get a little repetitive.

More locations are coming (Monte Carlo is first).

As for cars, there are plenty available as it is.

 

[BeardedWolf]

The Season Pass has the first two Seasons in it which include, at least for the first season, 3 stages and 6 cars. And if Season 2 is the same, then that's 6 stages and 12 new cars. Plus new liveries. So..fun on the bun.

 

[kikie]

Thanks for all the replies guys!
A question- How is it without paid DLC? I don’t really intend on buying DLC.

Well, the core DR 2.0 game is exactly the same with or without the DLC. the DLC only adds more content.

Thanks for all the replies guys!
A question- How is it without paid DLC? I don’t really intend on buying DLC.

Well, the core DR 2.0 game is exactly the same with or without the DLC. the DLC only adds more content.

 

[BrainsBush]

The Porsche is challenging especially in the wets. After Spain now struggling in Argentina. Of course a night race and heavy rain. Repair costs increasing rapidly

 

[cjr3559]

Question about upgrades.

It appears there are five upgrades you can purchase for each car, but so far I only have 3 of the 5 visible. Am I correct in assuming you need to train up and hire more staff to unlock?

Just wondering because there are instances at service parks where I can’t repair the gearbox; not only by exceeding the time limit, but apparently it’s not even possible (no quick fix available).

 

[Deadheadbill]

The Porsche is challenging especially in the wets. After Spain now struggling in Argentina. Of course a night race and heavy rain. Repair costs increasing rapidly

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That frickin Porche killed my ass in the weekly this week. Spain and 2/3rds of the stages were wet. Was just glad to finish and move on, pure tedium, no pleasure involved at all.

Question about upgrades.


It appears there are five upgrades you can purchase for each car, but so far I only have 3 of the 5 visible. Am I correct in assuming you need to train up and hire more staff to unlock?

Just wondering because there are instances at service parks where I can’t repair the gearbox; not only by exceeding the time limit, but apparently it’s not even possible (no quick fix available).

Can't answer definitively as I upgraded my staff right away, but that would be my best guess.

 

[ScottPuss20]

I completely ****ed myself over yesterday in the challenging Fiat 131, failing to progress to the next difficulty. I was leading the Polish rally going into the last stage, wherein only a major error would lose it for me. WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED. I had sustained some damage in the previous stage meaning that my headlights weren't working at full capacity, a slight problem at night. That didn't spell the end for my campaign so I got on with it, hoping that I could still keep my **** together. But then disaster. I hit a bail head on and smashed both my headlights, rendering them useless. I had used up all my restarts so I was left with 2 options - redo the championship or continue racing knowing that I had a ridiculous task in front of me. I continued, but I lost the rally and dropped to 6th. That was effectively the nail in the coffin, because even though I went on to win the next rally in Australia, I missed out on third in the championship by 2 POINTS. Now I have to do all 6 rallies again. In a car that is an absolute pain to handle at the best of times, but one I can do well in when I know what I'm doing.

 

[kembro]

I completely ****ed myself over yesterday in the challenging Fiat 131, failing to progress to the next difficulty. I was leading the Polish rally going into the last stage, wherein only a major error would lose it for me. WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED. I had sustained some damage in the previous stage meaning that my headlights weren't working at full capacity, a slight problem at night. That didn't spell the end for my campaign so I got on with it, hoping that I could still keep my **** together. But then disaster. I hit a bail head on and smashed both my headlights, rendering them useless. I had used up all my restarts so I was left with 2 options - redo the championship or continue racing knowing that I had a ridiculous task in front of me. I continued, but I lost the rally and dropped to 6th. That was effectively the nail in the coffin, because even though I went on to win the next rally in Australia, I missed out on third in the championship by 2 POINTS. Now I have to do all 6 rallies again. In a car that is an absolute pain to handle at the best of times, but one I can do well in when I know what I'm doing.

Feel for you mate, but that's rallying too. 9/10 to the podium is a philosophy I rally too. Not that I podium enough but normally finish. Makes me think I'm hovering back towards a more comfortable 7/10 too often. That and not living in the now enough listening carefully to Phil.

 

[kikie]

Yesterday evening I had my very first experience with DR 2.0 and my G27. To make a short story long, I had a blast and couldn't stop playing. As expected, I chose RX with the less powerful VW version. The very first thing I noticed immediately is how bad the FFB is. Even though I find most of the FFB in games crap and unrealistic, the FFB in DR 2.0 is even worse than that. I now know what everybody is talking about. Fiddling with the FFB and trying to make make it suitable to my preferences gave me the feeling that I was driving with a car with very powerful power steering or even worse, a car that was floating.

What I also noticed, even with my keyboard is the realistic feeling (because I'm the reference when it comes to real life car physics, everybody should listen to me ) of the car's behaviour. It is so hard to control the car at the limit. I have so much respect for real life rallycross and rally drivers in this regard.

The biggest set back was the lack of triple monitor support. I tried but it was awful and completely stretched. Even Wreckfrest has better triple monitor support. Luckily triple monitor is actually not needed in DR 2.0 au contraire to circuit racing where triple support is a life-saving feature. VR FTW maybe?

The feature that surprised me the most was the tuning of the car. Tuning your car actually does work in DR 2.0 is does make a huge difference if you change the setup of the car. I managed to mess up the car's setup resulting in finding a setup that was the opposite of my driving style.
So, I tried other setups and managed to shave a couple of tenths of my incredible fast and professional time in RX.
I'm still 5 sec. slower than the top time on the leaderboard though. Shame on you @kikie. I'm positively sure that I can reduce my time with another two seconds if I can find the correct setup that will suit my driving style, which is actually a non-aggressive, neutral and clean driving style. I like a rather neutral car with well-balanced braking, neutral turn-in but slightly oversteering when exiting a corner. I love oversteering my car ever so slightly by using the throttle when exiting a corner. @Scaff HELP (setup)!

Playing RX makes me wonder if RX is the only part of DR 2.0 I'm going to like. It seems that my expectations of RX was too high and probably going to enjoy rally as much as RX. Strange what you learn about yourself by playing racing games.

I do miss a sequential shifter and a proper brake pedal. Also, it seems that the handbrake is digital and not analogue in DR 2.0? Am I correct? I wasn't able to set up my Logitech Attack joystick as a handbrake.

Note to myself *Invest in better sim racing hardware, you penny-pincher*.

@MarcoM I don't why you couldn't get the virtual steering wheel to match with your physical steering wheel? I didn't make any effort to make it synchronise and when I used the cockpit view my G27 matched the virtual steering wheel steering perfectly. The only thing I did, and I do this every time in every sim, was to set the degrees of my G27 in the Logitech profiler to 540°.

Is this short story long enough?

 

[MarcoM]

I do miss a sequential shifter and a proper brake pedal. Also, it seems that the handbrake is digital and not analogue in DR 2.0? Am I correct? I wasn't able to set up my Logitech Attack joystick as a handbrake.

Note to myself *Invest in better sim racing hardware, you penny-pincher*.

@MarcoM I don't why you couldn't get the virtual steering wheel to match with your physical steering wheel? I didn't make any effort to make it synchronise and when I used the cockpit view my G27 matched the virtual steering wheel steering perfectly. The only thing I did, and I do this every time in every sim, was to set the degrees of my G27 in the Logitech profiler to 540°.

Is this short story long enough?

Hi Kiki, glad you like it.

I am on ps4 and basically what I do with steering saturation = results in the same 540 degrees you mention. This way, as you also experience, the virtual steering wheel matches the physical steering wheel. Basically the same as what you do in the profiler software on PC.

I am getting the hang of the FFB. It really grows on me. No when I play other sims I tend to lower the effects. Can't wait to try it out with the tactile feedback from the buttkicker.

RX is growing on me. I love the slower class vehicles. Really fun races. The top class cars are more than a handfull to drive.

Shame really that DR2 does not allow as many input devices as F1 games do. The F1 games respond to anything that is plugged into the console . Luckily enough I have a keypad via the drivehub. The drivehub allows keyboards and can then simulate gamepad buttons. Still digital, but good enough for using the handbrake.

 

[KK78]

Anyone else feel that Group B is too much for Argentina? It's painful how hard it is on the tighter stages to get any flow going!

Or is it just me

 

[MarcoM]

@KK78 , I'm with you. Last week's weekly resulted in a DNF for me. Rain, night, Argentine, Group B = killing. At least I know where my boundaries are.

 

[KK78]

I'm kinda already bored with the career mode, it seems every stage is at night or in dim light, with rain, with severe surface degradation and often in a car that wants to kill itself, or you! Do rallys only happen at night now??

Not to mention the rain sometimes looks like a meteor storm!!

 

[Deadheadbill]

Anyone else feel that Group B is too much for Argentina? It's painful how hard it is on the tighter stages to get any flow going!

Or is it just me

It's not just you.